Transfers, 2024-25 season

[toonotl 3402]

I would like to see us hold on to Minteh. He's put up impressive numbers for a 19 year old in a top European league. Not that Antony is much of a yard-stick for performances, but in terms of the price there is a comparison to be made. Both playing as wingers and Minteh has scored more league goals in his only season (10) in the Dutch league than Antony managed in either of his two seasons (9 & 8, respectively). And Antony was 22 & 21 in his two seasons, so three and two years older than Minteh during this season gone. I know Antony is whatever. But in reality he's an established Brazil international so that has to count for something. Minteh is outperforming the performances that got a guy full-international status for Brazil and cost ManU 100m at the same time as being significantly younger than him.

Edited June 20, 2024 by toonotl

[Dr Gloom 23511]

of course we should keep him, but we might not be able to because of this ffp bollocks, if selling means we can finances deals for ollise and the other players we have targeted. the sooner these rules are scrapped, the better. it's ridiculous our owners are being told they can't afford to buy and sell who they want 

Edited June 20, 2024 by Dr Gloom

[wykikitoon 22669]

19 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Pure profit for someone untested in the Premier League. I'd sell him to Dortmund for £30m+ with a reasonable buy-back clause?

Makes sense, or a nice sell on bonus.  City like that one!

[RobElliott 1785]

I had some funky cheese last night and ended up dreaming that we signed Ravel Morrison as a free as our marquee signing... so much so I wasn't sure if it was reality or not. Thankfully not  

[Dazzler 11674]

7 minutes ago, RobElliott said:

I had some funky cheese last night and ended up dreaming that we signed Ravel Morrison as a free as our marquee signing... so much so I wasn't sure if it was reality or not. Thankfully not  

Ravel Morrison

[toonotl 3402]

Taking FFP into consideration, which I would assume everyone does when discussing comings and goings by now, I'd much rather we do everything possible to sell several other players before we offload Minteh.

 

There's the added consideration that Minteh is undoubtedly on peanuts compared to offloading the likes of Almiron, Longstaff and Targett. So that's more scope in terms of FFP.

 

Plus we have no European football this season so the squad doesn't need to be as big (in theory). And homegrown players doesn't matter either. It's a good opportunity to shift some dead weight.

 

In any case, like Fish said, if there's plenty of interest in Minteh, then selling with a buy-back clause & sell-on clause and all the other bells and whistles that go with a much sort after teenager should be absolutely put into any sale that goes ahead. It's also worth noting that if we sold him for 35m (or whatever) and bought him back in a few seasons for 70m (or whatever) that would still represent a better FFP position despite paying twice as much to get him back because of the amortization rules. 

[Dr Gloom 23511]

45 minutes ago, toonotl said:

Taking FFP into consideration, which I would assume everyone does when discussing comings and goings by now, I'd much rather we do everything possible to sell several other players before we offload Minteh.

 

There's the added consideration that Minteh is undoubtedly on peanuts compared to offloading the likes of Almiron, Longstaff and Targett. So that's more scope in terms of FFP.

 

Plus we have no European football this season so the squad doesn't need to be as big (in theory). And homegrown players doesn't matter either. It's a good opportunity to shift some dead weight.

 

In any case, like Fish said, if there's plenty of interest in Minteh, then selling with a buy-back clause & sell-on clause and all the other bells and whistles that go with a much sort after teenager should be absolutely put into any sale that goes ahead. It's also worth noting that if we sold him for 35m (or whatever) and bought him back in a few seasons for 70m (or whatever) that would still represent a better FFP position despite paying twice as much to get him back because of the amortization rules. 

 

i miss the days when we could discuss transfers without considering amortisation 

[Dr Gloom 23511]

i blame the accountants 

[Dazzler 11674]

18 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

i blame the accountants 

[The Fish 11313]

45 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

i blame the accountants 

I blame the established top clubs creating this protectionist bullshit in the first place.

[Guest MrRaspberryJam]

It's the whole world against Jim Ratcliffe. Again:

 

Sir Jim Ratcliffe on UEFA blocking Todibo's move to Man Utd: "They've said we can sell him to another Premiership club, but we can't sell to Man Utd. But that's not fair on the player, and I don’t see what that achieves."

[wykikitoon 22669]

Brexit nonce

[Dr Gloom 23511]

1 hour ago, The Fish said:

I blame the established top clubs creating this protectionist bullshit in the first place.

 

and the accountants.

 

mainly gemmill and dazzler tbh

[Dazzler 11674]

49 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

and the accountants.

 

mainly gemmill and dazzler tbh

that's fair.

[LondonBlue 1021]

On 19/06/2024 at 13:08, Howmanheyman said:

 

 

The Very public diary of the Very real journalist, Luke Edwards, keeping it real

 

"Dear diary,

 

Bladdy hell, it's getting harder, it really is. I feel like I'm juggling plates all over whilst trying to do the chicken dance on my phone. I'm out there digging away for some legitimate scoops, not just regurgitated quotes about what Simon Jordan said on talk sport, (I'm looking at you here, evening chronicle sports team), then getting myself out there on social media to wind up fans, especially a few of the thick ones who aren't a threat yet you get the likes of wykiki retweeting sports bible and shit like that trying to pretend they're real sports journalists. I can laugh off the likes of Ryder and Graves but the likes of burnsie can do one. Anyway, time for a twitter upload. Like Tom Jones said, I think I better dance now.....

 

 

..... Ooh, where's my Aldi Sauvignon Blanc? I'm all pooped out now!"

 

 

is that a clip of Temuri Ketsbaia in a geordie nightclub?

 

 

[Howmanheyman 36393]

36 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

 

is that a clip of Temuri Ketsbaia in a geordie nightclub?

 

 

 

 

No it's the London NE correspondent for the telegraph. He likes to dance on twitter and argue with Newcastle fans.

[Gemmill 49632]

Chelsea step aside. Get in there Eddie. 

 

 

 

[Polarboy 2317]

He's agreed to go to Bayern according to Ornstein as well. At least that's what I've read indirectly of the Athletic. Apparently even Chelsea couldn't afford the wages he was after. 

[Kid Dynamite 7591]

Urgh. Can't really blame him 

[wykikitoon 22669]

Wow that's a surprise but quite cool too. Fair play to him going there and having a go. 

[RobinRobin 12427]

If Chelsea can't afford him we certainly can't. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14618]

Edwards says we’re closing in on Calvert-Lewin. I’m going to be positive and say that this looks underwhelming but will prove to be a bargain

[Dazzler 11674]

20 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Edwards says we’re closing in on Calvert-Lewin. I’m going to be positive and say that this looks underwhelming but will prove to be a bargain

As a replacement for Wilson who’s expected to leave. Seems risky in that sense to me, replacing one perma crock with another still leaves us open, we’d still need a third option to mitigate against that.

 

I do think DCL is a quality player in his day, and in a better set up could thrive as long as he stays fit.

[Polarboy 2317]

In fairness to DCL he only missed six games last season in the PL, with a few being for a broken cheekbone, and the others for illness. 32 games is a lot more than Wilson has managed in a long time. The two seasons previous were poor for him injury wise, but as back up to Isak there'll be a lot less pressure on him physically. Last year of his contract and still 27, he could be a bit of a bargain, as has already been said, if Howe et al can negotiate a fair price. 

 

Edit. Looked at Wilson's stats and he has been available for roughly the same amount of games for a couple of seasons previous to last season, but he was being managed by Howe in terms of minutes where as DCL was starting most games last season. Obviously keeping Wilson as well would be ideal, but that seems unlikely in terms of FFP.

Edited June 22, 2024 by Polarboy

[ewerk 33022]

He was utter shite for most of last season when he wasn’t on injured. The only good thing I can see about this is that Everton are broke and this leaves them with two forwards who managed three goals between them last season.