Transfers, 2024-25 season

[aimaad22 4661]

Who knows how true that is, but I can see the logic. 

 

They've got Chilwell and Cucurella. Depends on how highly Poch rates them for now, but chances of Hall playing regularly are low. A 3M loan plus 25M buy clause deal could tempt them. He's got potential no doubt, but is still a largely untested, very young player and Chelsea aren't exactly known for developing those.

[Gemmill 49832]

3 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

That's just straight up transfer fees over 3 transfer windows (including this one). 

 

Aye and there was more fuss raised about us getting 25m for ASM than there was for Chelsea shipping out all of their deadwood to Saudi.

[ewerk 33145]

9 hours ago, Polarboy said:

they need the assurance of a transfer fee coming their way, even if it's delayed by a year. 

 

Chelsea have shifted plenty of their shite in this window but the thing about the signings they've made is that the amortisation charge is recurring every year while the sales are only accounted for in the period they happen. So basically Chelsea are going to have to continue making sales next summer and if they can get one tied up now then that provides an element of certainty on their side.

[Dr Gloom 23594]

12 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

He signed a 6 year deal last week. No chance they sell him to us for that 

Fuck knows if there’s anything in it but this kid has impressed me the few times I’ve seen him play. We could have England’s future first choice full backs if we sign him to go with Tino 

[MMXXVIII 1296]

Isn't Hall a midfielder who filled in at left-back when Chilwell was injured?

 

Anyway, Tierney's name won't go away. A few months ago I read that Targett is home sick, dunno where. Might be why left-back is more of a priority than a right footed CB from the outside. 

[Toonpack 11343]

How hilarious this would be

 

[wykikitoon 22771]

Apparently Allison is wanted by the Saudis too

[MMXXVIII 1296]

2 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

How hilarious this would be

 

 

So with 7 minutes left I stuck de Bruyne in my fantasy team on Friday.

 

I transferred him and got Salah an hour ago. The missus is getting hammered when I get in.

[Polarboy 2317]

Brighton are supposed to be after some 19 year old Boca Juniors left back called Barco for 8m. Surely it would be an idea to just outbid them given their record on players these past few seasons. 

[Polarboy 2317]

 

If it's a loan I don't see how it would be hard to find a way because of FFP, so that seems weird. Surely his wages and the loan fee wouldn't be that high. Unless it's an obligation to buy at the end of the loan, but even still we should have money to spend a year from now. I don't think we should loan him just for a year with no obligation or option to buy. Why should we develop a rivals player for a year only to hand them back. It will be interesting to see what happens come the end of the window. It does really seem like we are going for a LB, after everyone thought we'd close our business with a RCB. It would be nice to get both, but perhaps the RCB's we want to eventually replace Schar are out of reach at present because of money etc. 

Edited August 16, 2023 by Polarboy

[toonotl 3415]

It feels like these types of deals are unlikely to work for us as a rule. Firstly, the teams we're loaning from are likely to be our direct rivals as any lower team is unlikely to have a player they're willing to loan who would be good enough to play for us. Secondly, if we're limited to the teams around us in the league for such a deal then that means the loaning club will almost certainly be trying to bend us over.  Thirdly, our own predicament in limiting ourselves to a loan deal means that these rival clubs can be even more aggressive because, in addition to being their rivals, they also know that our options to look elsewhere to non-rival clubs are severely limited by the rarity of any particular deal being worthwhile. Finally, this all would seem to result in a likely situation that makes any deal questionable as a representation of good value, adding a higher element of risk as although a loan fee plus wages is cheaper than a transfer fee and wages it is still a hit to the bottom line that may not be worthwhile as a value proposition when the relative cost of the loan is higher than your average.

[Polarboy 2317]

Just reading about this Olise stuff, and Palace accusing Chelsea of tapping him up. Surely that argument between them will put the kibosh on the loan deal they had going for Hall, regardless of our interest. 

[ewerk 33145]

On 15/08/2023 at 08:12, ewerk said:

 

Chelsea have shifted plenty of their shite in this window but the thing about the signings they've made is that the amortisation charge is recurring every year while the sales are only accounted for in the period they happen. So basically Chelsea are going to have to continue making sales next summer and if they can get one tied up now then that provides an element of certainty on their side.

 

The Athletic stealing my content now.

 

[wykikitoon 22771]

[The Fish 11313]

7 hours ago, Polarboy said:

 

If it's a loan I don't see how it would be hard to find a way because of FFP, so that seems weird. Surely his wages and the loan fee wouldn't be that high. Unless it's an obligation to buy at the end of the loan, but even still we should have money to spend a year from now. I don't think we should loan him just for a year with no obligation or option to buy. Why should we develop a rivals player for a year only to hand them back. It will be interesting to see what happens come the end of the window. It does really seem like we are going for a LB, after everyone thought we'd close our business with a RCB. It would be nice to get both, but perhaps the RCB's we want to eventually replace Schar are out of reach at present because of money etc. 

 

The way I've read the reports, it's not a loan deal we're ultimately after, it's a permanent transfer. Not sure we can manage that this window without breaking FFP, unless we obfuscate the purchase from the books by doing a loan with an obligation. If that happens the money will be accounted for in next season's books. 

 

I'd be delighted with Hall, he's a tremendous prospect, but I'd still rather we were signing a RCB.

[thebrokendoll 10241]

14 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

The Athletic stealing my content now.

 

 

I just find it hilarious that chelsea's last 2 signings have gazumped liverpool of 2 of their main targets. the angst and fume on rawk is tremendous, they've even managed to rope us in to the equation due to clearlake and the pif.

just need salah to fuck off to saudi now and it's been an incredibly entertaining transfer window.

[Isegrim 10327]

https://x.com/im_robm/status/1691728246960718072?s=46&t=7EP1snWKh3ho3iDGAoo5gw

[wykikitoon 22771]

Fuck me, she will soon be on a flat bed.

[The Fish 11313]

1 hour ago, wykikitoon said:

Fuck me, she will soon be on a flat bed.

You randy fucker.

[Polarboy 2317]

Flat bed truck, it's time to fuck. 

[Polarboy 2317]

The Athletic have added the name of Juan Miranda off Betis to the four man list of LB's we're targeting. The others obviously being Cucurella, Hall and Tierney. My first reaction was, what that bloke who wrote Hamilton, but apparently he's a 23 year old Spanish footballer, with a good mix of Burn's defensive solidity and Trippier's attacking intent. 

Edited August 16, 2023 by Polarboy

[OTF 8403]

3 hours ago, ewerk said:

 

The Athletic stealing my content now.

 

 

They've been doing this for bloody ages, buying loads of talented young players, loaning the ones out who arent top echelon and then selling them for huge profits. This is just higher profile players and larger fees. It only works results wise if you have a proper strategy to the purchases and someone to bring them together on the field. For me I'm not sure that Pochettino will be able to do that, but he's going to get a good chance at it, both in terms of money to spent and time to bring an identity to a Chelsea team that has lacked one since Conte. I can't see them jettisoning another manager in a big hurry.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4250]

1 hour ago, Polarboy said:

The Athletic have added the name of Juan Miranda off Betis to the four man list of LB's we're targeting. The others obviously being Cucurella, Hall and Tierney. My first reaction was, what that bloke who wrote Hamilton, but apparently he's a 23 year old Spanish footballer, with a good mix of Burn's defensive solidity and Trippier's attacking intent. 

Didn’t he write Hamilton?

[Diego21 2155]

1 hour ago, Polarboy said:

The Athletic have added the name of Juan Miranda off Betis to the four man list of LB's we're targeting. The others obviously being Cucurella, Hall and Tierney. My first reaction was, what that bloke who wrote Hamilton, but apparently he's a 23 year old Spanish footballer, with a good mix of Burn's defensive solidity and Trippier's attacking intent. 

I'm not sure Juan Miranda is solid defensively. Yes, it's going very well up there. He is a very good attacker and can help us in games where we need to attack much more.

He still has room for improvement, because he's young, but he also makes some big mistakes.

He has come out of the Barcelona youth academy, so he is very good with the ball at his feet.

Now, I think our offer will have to be close to 20M because Barcelona itself has 40% of a future sale so Betis won't let it go cheap.

[Polarboy 2317]

1 minute ago, Diego21 said:

I'm not sure Juan Miranda is solid defensively. Yes, it's going very well up there. He is a very good attacker and can help us in games where we need to attack much more.

He still has room for improvement, because he's young, but he also makes some big mistakes.

He has come out of the Barcelona youth academy, so he is very good with the ball at his feet.

Now, I think our offer will have to be close to 20M because Barcelona itself has 40% of a future sale so Betis won't let it go cheap.

 

I was relying on a twitter analyst for the profile of his supposed strengths. I can't say I've seen him play like yourself.