Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Polarboy 2317]

1 hour ago, The Fish said:

 

I dunno, I see a history of soft tissue injuries, and the intense way we play and I can't see anything but calamity for Enrico's baby boy. 

 

I'd rather we hobbled Brighton and stole Evan Ferguson from them.

 

A winger who can play either flank isn't really comparable to an out an out centre forward like Ferguson. Ferguson can play a bit as well of course. But the point being Ferguson won't solve the quality issues out wide, and why would he move to sit on our bench when he's likely to break into the Brighton first 11 on a consistent basis in the coming season. 

[Dougle 3677]

2 hours ago, Polarboy said:

 

A winger who can play either flank isn't really comparable to an out an out centre forward like Ferguson. Ferguson can play a bit as well of course. But the point being Ferguson won't solve the quality issues out wide, and why would he move to sit on our bench when he's likely to break into the Brighton first 11 on a consistent basis in the coming season. 

 

[The Fish 11322]

2 hours ago, Polarboy said:

 

A winger who can play either flank isn't really comparable to an out an out centre forward like Ferguson. Ferguson can play a bit as well of course. But the point being Ferguson won't solve the quality issues out wide, and why would he move to sit on our bench when he's likely to break into the Brighton first 11 on a consistent basis in the coming season. 

 

Meant more about the cost than the playing style 

 

And as to why would he join? Have you not seen our bridges, beaches and babes?

[Polarboy 2317]

Just now, The Fish said:

 

Meant more about the cost than the playing style 

 

And as to why would he join? Have you not seen our bridges, beaches and babes?

 

I know transfermarkt has Ferguson down as roughly 20m pounds, but given his age and potential you'd be lucky to get him for 50m, given the current market for good young players with PL experience. Chiesa on the other hand is supposedly valued at 50m by Juve, but it's been hinted there's room for negotiation. Anyway, I'm sure the paupers in Liverpool will stretch that shoestring even more, and end up signing him. There has been vague rumours that they are also interested. 

[Polarboy 2317]

Veiga is away to PSG according to a report in Spain. With Enrique now their manager the move makes sense, if the report turns out to hold water. Given it said that he'll soon be doing his medical you'd assume there must be something in it for them to be that definitive. 

[Diego21 2155]

If you go for Maddison and Szoboszlai, but Chiesa or Diaby eventually arrive, you're kind of changing the idea you have with those players, because they can play the same position, but their style is radically different.

 

Chiesa I love it. At least the version up to before he was injured. I think he was one of the most differential players in the world playing on the right wing.

I do believe that a player with his ambition will be able to recover stability and return to his level.

 

But if the signing is Chiesa, I think Almirón or Murphy would have to leave, because there are 3 players who clearly play in the same position.

[Dr Gloom 23639]

51 minutes ago, Diego21 said:

If you go for Maddison and Szoboszlai, but Chiesa or Diaby eventually arrive, you're kind of changing the idea you have with those players, because they can play the same position, but their style is radically different.

 

Chiesa I love it. At least the version up to before he was injured. I think he was one of the most differential players in the world playing on the right wing.

I do believe that a player with his ambition will be able to recover stability and return to his level.

 

But if the signing is Chiesa, I think Almirón or Murphy would have to leave, because there are 3 players who clearly play in the same position.

Gordon can play RW too.
 

Almiron is the one you could probably get some money for. I don’t see Murphy going anywhere. He’s living his best life and his wages will be fuck all. 

[Polarboy 2317]

1 hour ago, Diego21 said:

If you go for Maddison and Szoboszlai, but Chiesa or Diaby eventually arrive, you're kind of changing the idea you have with those players, because they can play the same position, but their style is radically different.

 

Chiesa I love it. At least the version up to before he was injured. I think he was one of the most differential players in the world playing on the right wing.

I do believe that a player with his ambition will be able to recover stability and return to his level.

 

But if the signing is Chiesa, I think Almirón or Murphy would have to leave, because there are 3 players who clearly play in the same position.

 

I read a quote, that was supposedly from an unnamed club source, stating that it was as late as May before we thought we had any chance of getting Tonali. So it's possible that we've changed the profile of players we're after to add to him in response to that. The rumours about Maddison and Szoboszlai this window could have been a result of us heavily scouting, and in Maddison's case also bidding for him, previously. 

[Dr Gloom 23639]

we're starting to be linked with this kephram thuram kid who liverpool were apparently also keen on. i have no idea what he's like. thought his brother looked canny in the world cup but he is apparently another CM and i'm not sure that is the priority now we have tonali. thought RW and LB would be the key positions to try to upgrade. his stats look ok  - 6 goal contributions last season

 

 

 

[RobinRobin 12479]

Think he's supposed to be a proper number 6

[Diego21 2155]

2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

Gordon can play RW too.
 

Almiron is the one you could probably get some money for. I don’t see Murphy going anywhere. He’s living his best life and his wages will be fuck all. 

I agree.

In fact, I think pretty much all of us would have accepted that Almiron had been sold last summer for an appropriate amount because the guy hadn't really progressed or exploded in all his years here.

But of course, with the level shown this season for several months...

My only question is whether Miggy will be able to maintain that level throughout the season. Because that is the level that sets him apart and makes him important in a Champions League team like ours.

[Polarboy 2317]

According to Ben Jacobs Liverpool have dropped out of the race for K Thuram and will focus their attention on Lavia next. Unfortunately it's a player like Lavia that we could do with. Having read a bit more about Thuram he's not really suited to playing as a six, and is more of a box to box destroyer in the mold of Joelinton. I'd be surprised if we go for him, unless the transfer fee is too good to not make a bid. If we bought him he might even start in that three man midfield alongside Bruno and Tonali, with Big Joe playing left wing, but I think we're in greater need of elite players at LB and RW/AM.

Edited July 4, 2023 by Polarboy

[wykikitoon 22854]

11 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

According to Ben Jacobs Liverpool have dropped out of the race for K Thuram and will focus their attention on Lavia next. Unfortunately it's a player like Lavia that we could do with. Having read a bit more about Thuram he's not really suited to playing as a six, and is more of a box to box destroyer in the mold of Joelinton. I'd be surprised if we go for him, unless the transfer fee is too good to not make a bid. If we bought him he might even start in that three man midfield alongside Bruno and Tonali, with Big Joe playing left wing, but I think we're in greater need of elite players at LB and RW/AM.

They're also after a Real player. 

[Polarboy 2317]

17 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

They're also after a Real player. 

 

I presume it's Tchouameni? And sure if they could get him they'd likely drop out of the Lavia race as well, but I think basically every top team would like Tchouaméeni. 

[Polarboy 2317]

I see Leeds are one of the teams who are interested in Darlow along with Bournemouth. Seen an article saying it might be worth sweetening a deal for Adams off Leeds with Darlow as part of the bid. Adams isn't the most exciting signing, but he's a very competent defensive mid who's far too good for the championship. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by Polarboy

[Dr Gloom 23639]

some twitter ITK bellend reckons we're getting harvey barnes for £25m 

[wykikitoon 22854]

13 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

I see Leeds are one of the teams who are interested in Darlow along with Bournemouth. Seen an article saying it might be worth sweetening a deal for Adams off Leeds with Darlow as part of the bid. Adams isn't the most exciting signing, but he's a very competent defensive mid who's far too good for the championship. 

I've seen loads about Meslier and how teams like Man Utd are after him.  He's fucking GASH

[Polarboy 2317]

 

3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

some twitter ITK bellend reckons we're getting harvey barnes for £25m 

 

I'd take him all day long for 25m, but I can't see it. I'd be shocked if he didn't go for north of 30m. There are other more reputable sources such as the Mail who say we're back in for him, but again that price seems low. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4268]

10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

some twitter ITK bellend reckons we're getting harvey barnes for £25m 

So we definitely aren’t getting Harvey Barnes then.

[Howay 12496]

2 hours ago, Diego21 said:

I agree.

In fact, I think pretty much all of us would have accepted that Almiron had been sold last summer for an appropriate amount because the guy hadn't really progressed or exploded in all his years here.

But of course, with the level shown this season for several months...

My only question is whether Miggy will be able to maintain that level throughout the season. Because that is the level that sets him apart and makes him important in a Champions League team like ours.

I’d sell Almiron in a heartbeat, he’s so poor technically on the ball and his finishing is fucking abhorrent. He scored 9 goals up to xmas and then 2 in the 18 games after that, his poor finishing made it far harder to close out the season. He’s fine as a rotation option but he’s the main position we need to improve this summer imo, the moment teams started showing respect and sitting deeper he was completely ineffective. 

[Howay 12496]

34 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

I see Leeds are one of the teams who are interested in Darlow along with Bournemouth. Seen an article saying it might be worth sweetening a deal for Adams off Leeds with Darlow as part of the bid. Adams isn't the most exciting signing, but he's a very competent defensive mid who's far too good for the championship. 

I don’t see the point in bringing a painfully average bottom half PL player in, especially since he’s on a decent wage and we’d have to pay a fee. We need to be clearing out the ones we have of that level not bringing more in. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by Howay

[Polarboy 2317]

18 minutes ago, Howay said:

I don’t see the point in bringing a painfully average bottom half PL player in, especially since he’s on a decent wage and we’d have to pay a fee. We need to be clearing out the ones we have of that level not bringing more in. 

 

He was their best player before he got injured toward the end of the season. When your defensive mid is your best player, that says something about the level he's at compared to the team he's playing for. Palhinha at Fulham is probably the only other player at his level or a bit higher playing as a six outside of the "top six". Although I suppose Onana at Everton deserves a shout as well. So no, I don't subscribe to the notion that just because he plays for Leeds he's found his level. He's still quite young at 24 for a start, and was playing champions league football with Leipzig before he joined Leeds. 

[Dr Gloom 23639]

3 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

 

 Onana at Everton deserves a shout as well

 

[Holden McGroin 7617]

1 hour ago, Polarboy said:

 

He was their best player before he got injured toward the end of the season. When your defensive mid is your best player, that says something about the level he's at compared to the team he's playing for. Palhinha at Fulham is probably the only other player at his level or a bit higher playing as a six outside of the "top six". Although I suppose Onana at Everton deserves a shout as well. So no, I don't subscribe to the notion that just because he plays for Leeds he's found his level. He's still quite young at 24 for a start, and was playing champions league football with Leipzig before he joined Leeds. 

 

Isn't Bruno our best player? 😜

 

I'd take Adams tbh. Would be cheap and then thats the midfield sorted for the season.

 

Desperately need a left back and upgrades on the wings.

Edited July 4, 2023 by Holden McGroin

[ewerk 33215]

I definitely think this is the season where Rodrigo Vilca steps up.