Polarboy 2311 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Holden McGroin said: 85m is nonsense. I suggest we just stick to upcoming younger players that are hungry to step up. An elite player who's often named among the best midfielders in Europe, with his prime years ahead of him, in the current market is going to cost. And again you would assume 85m is there ideal price, not their realistic price and that they'd probably accept substantially less when negotiations are said and done. He's easily worth 70m in the current market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6582 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 So PIF own 75% of the Saudi league. I sense a big player going there on mega bucks then being loaned to us for free. Hello Neymar Jnr. Welcome to Newcastle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6582 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Polarboy said: An elite player who's often named among the best midfielders in Europe, with his prime years ahead of him, in the current market is going to cost. And again you would assume 85m is there ideal price, not their realistic price and that they'd probably accept substantially less when negotiations are said and done. He's easily worth 70m in the current market. I haven’t seen him enough to give him the glowing report you have. italians haven’t traditionally settled that well in our league either. I can’t think of many bar Zola and arguably Vialli. Edit: Di Canio as well Edited June 16, 2023 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42412 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 43 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I haven’t seen him enough to give him the glowing report you have. italians haven’t traditionally settled that well in our league either. I can’t think of many bar Zola and arguably Vialli. Wharra bewt Wor Paolo, Marra? FTM, fewm, shit outside etc 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I haven’t seen him enough to give him the glowing report you have. italians haven’t traditionally settled that well in our league either. I can’t think of many bar Zola and arguably Vialli. Edit: Di Canio as well I think that's more to do with the elite Italian players tending to stay in Italy or go to Spain. Obviously apart from the exceptions you mentioned. We got the dregs for the most part with players like Pistone for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42412 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: So PIF own 75% of the Saudi league. I sense a big player going there on mega bucks then being loaned to us for free. Hello Neymar Jnr. Welcome to Newcastle. I’d be painting my windows white and putting the sleeping bags in the cupboard under the stairs if that happened- I reckon we’d be in the Fewmout zone at least, if not the direct blast. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6582 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 11 hours ago, Polarboy said: I think that's more to do with the elite Italian players tending to stay in Italy or go to Spain. Obviously apart from the exceptions you mentioned. We got the dregs for the most part with players like Pistone for us. Overall Pistone was probably deemed a success over his time as he had a decent career over here for us and Everton. there has been a lot of big signings that just never live up to it over here. Scamacacacacacacaca being the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: Overall Pistone was probably deemed a success over his time as he had a decent career over here for us and Everton. there has been a lot of big signings that just never live up to it over here. Scamacacacacacacaca being the latest. I think it might have been on Wilson and Antonio's podcast I heard about it, but they were basically saying that Scamacca was being played as a traditional 9 by Moyes because of his height and the way Moyes likes to play, but he's much more effective with the ball to his feet, exchanging passes around the box etc. And then he got injured for an extended period. So I think it might be unfair to judge him too harshly at present. If we could get him for a decent price I'd definitely take him for that third striker spot we have. I'm certain Howe could get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33166 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Ravenelli didn't do too bad and even at the time it blew my mind that his last game for juventus was scoring in the CL final then he's off to fucking Middlesbrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Ravenelli didn't do too bad and even at the time it blew my mind that his last game for juventus was scoring in the CL final then he's off to fucking Middlesbrough. Aye the mind boggles how much Gibbo was paying him, Emerson and Juninho 😬 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33166 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Aye the mind boggles how much Gibbo was paying him, Emerson and Juninho 😬 I was a bit jealous tbh but then we signed Shearer the same pre-season so ........ (I remember poor old Supermac declaring Boro had got the better deal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: I was a bit jealous tbh but then we signed Shearer the same pre-season so ........ (I remember poor old Supermac declaring Boro had got the better deal). the media have always got to say something regardless of whether it actually makes any sense Boro had Boksic after that too… probably past his best by then but a fuckin great player on his day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33166 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: the media have always got to say something regardless of whether it actually makes any sense Boro had Boksic after that too… probably past his best by then but a fuckin great player on his day Boro had no fucking business getting Boksic, Ravenelli and Juninho. I'd forgotten about Boksic, he was just a very good forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33166 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: the media have always got to say something regardless of whether it actually makes any sense Boro had Boksic after that too… probably past his best by then but a fuckin great player on his day Ravenelli scored a hat trick on his debut at Boro, first game of the season, a big story but it was against Liverpool so it was sad face emojis in the media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33166 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Also recall supermac tipping Boro to finish higher than us, who had just finished second then signed one of the best strikers in the world. (For all boro's decent players they weren't a team and still had the likes of Curtis Fleming). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6582 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Boksic was different class. We were linked with him a few times in his pomp. Shame it never came off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Also recall supermac tipping Boro to finish higher than us, who had just finished second then signed one of the best strikers in the world. (For all boro's decent players they weren't a team and still had the likes of Curtis Fleming). My entire Sunday morning football career can be largely summed up by a Boro player from that era 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33166 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I can't remember if Jamie Pollock was still there around then? Looked like he spent his spare time chasing parked buses. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: I can't remember if Jamie Pollock was still there around then? Looked like he spent his spare time chasing parked buses. I think he might have left when they arrived. Juve were noted for being prepared to overhaul their squad and balance the books back then. It seemed odd to sell Ravenelli and Vialli that summer. Both were class for them as well as forming a great partnership. But they had Vieri, Del Piero and (I think) Pippo Inzaghi all coming through. They also sold Paulo Sosa who, ironically played against them and was victorious for Dortmund in the CL Final 12 months later. Then again, Juve signed Zidane in the summer of 96 too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: My entire Sunday morning football career can be largely summed up by a Boro player from that era When Batty stamped on him he reckon he was just following the instructions on his shirt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said: Boksic was different class. We were linked with him a few times in his pomp. Shame it never came off. Aye. He was brilliant but he was finished through injuries by the time he ended up at Boro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4248 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Howmanheyman said: I can't remember if Jamie Pollock was still there around then? Looked like he spent his spare time chasing parked buses. Should see the size of that fucker now man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42412 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, strawb said: Should see the size of that fucker now man 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, PaddockLad said: My entire Sunday morning football career can be largely summed up by a Boro player from that era Was expecting Dean Windass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, OTF said: Was expecting Dean Windass Not that good 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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