Howmanheyman 36645 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, ohhh_yeah said: Done deal. If Joselu had've played for Sunderland and ended up scoring the winner in this season's CL I reckon there'd be multiple, weird, self congratulatory posts on RTG compared to mild amusement on here if he does it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 50016 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 If Joselu had played for Sunderland, he'd be in their top 3 strikers this century. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego21 2155 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Joselu seems to me a rather mediocre player (the level of his entire career is what we saw here) and he is also a bit unlucky. In the last 3 Spanish teams in which he has been (Deportivo Coruña, Alavés and Espanyol) he has ended up being relegated. It is true that he has been at a more than acceptable level for 2 or 3 years and that this last season he has played very, very well. And that he has been lucky with the Spanish team (he has 3 goals in just 3 games). But he is already 33 years old ... I don't know. I understand that the signing that Real Madrid makes is for him to occupy the role that Mariano has had in recent years. That is to say... Play between 300 and 500 minutes per season. Only go out on the field in the first rounds of the cup, in games already sentenced or in the 80-85th minute of games in which you need to score and go to hang balls in the area. Real Madrid must sign a first name striker. I don't know if it will be Kane, Mbappe, Mané or who. But it can't be Joselu (another option that occurs to me is that Rodrygo ends up being his real center forward). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4691 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 7 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Are these three stories linked in a way that is to the detriment of NUFC’s transfer plans this summer? What are PIF up to and what is their current priority? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/19/edouard-mendy-kalidou-koulibaly-and-hakim-ziyech-moves-to-saudi-arabia-provide-boost-for-chelsea https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-newcastle-james-maddison-transfer-8533276.amp https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/nkunku-to-join-chelsea NUFC are a tiny part of PIFs portfolio. And PIF are just one of the tools MBS is using to revamp and re-market Saudi Arabia. There is a massive development drive going on over there to the tune of trillions of dollars literally. If and once they are able to develop all the tourist/luxury infrastructure you need people to come in and use it. Improving image, getting celebrties to come and live in the country and visit for events etc obviously helps with that. There are no FFP rules in Saudi (I guess?), so this is a great chance for them to attract footballers that noone else in Europe really wants at those prices/wages. It makes sense that the financial muscle of PIF is engaged for that. We shouldn't think even for a moment that we're the only or the main priority. I agree with what Gemmill said, we're likely to be an independent long term project and Im sure the investment will keep coming in as has been promised. A different sort of venture from the supercharged throw cash in the face projects PIF will be helping with in Saudi. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10293 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: NUFC are a tiny part of PIFs portfolio. And PIF are just one of the tools MBS is using to revamp and re-market Saudi Arabia. There is a massive development drive going on over there to the tune of trillions of dollars literally. If and once they are able to develop all the tourist/luxury infrastructure you need people to come in and use it. Improving image, getting celebrties to come and live in the country and visit for events etc obviously helps with that. There are no FFP rules in Saudi (I guess?), so this is a great chance for them to attract footballers that noone else in Europe really wants at those prices/wages. It makes sense that the financial muscle of PIF is engaged for that. We shouldn't think even for a moment that we're the only or the main priority. I agree with what Gemmill said, we're likely to be an independent long term project and Im sure the investment will keep coming in as has been promised. A different sort of venture from the supercharged throw cash in the face projects PIF will be helping with in Saudi. nufc has some oldies amongst its support, pif needs to get its priorities right before its too late for them. fuck what gemmill says. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 50016 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Fuck the oldies. Not everyone can be young and beautiful like me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polarboy 2317 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/20/manchester-united-and-newcastle-adama-bojang-the-gambia-premier-league-bundesliga?CMP=share_btn_tw We're supposedly interested in a 19 year old Gambian striker. You'd imagine it's between him and Scherhant, assuming both links hold water, for that young, inexperienced striker spot in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4269 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 If we are going for McTominay I hope we get the one who plays for Scotland, he’s much better than the Man U walloper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5153 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I feel like We're not really bothering with McTominay. For anyone wondering this lad wears number 8, but he'd probably be our new 6. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1807 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Don't know anything about this fella but that Milan shirt is foul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 As far as I'm aware Tonali is thought of as the successor to Pirlo in that sort of deep lying playmaker role. So think how Shelvey played for us under Howe, except Tonali is an elite player and athlete as opposed to a slow slap head who's more interested in golf than playing football. The Everything is Black and White podcast lads dropped a bollock on this. They agree that a move for Tonali rated at about a 2 iirc in terms of likeliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) Why is the music for football videos universally atrocious? Maybe a bit early to post a video given it's supposedly only a bid being submitted, but for anyone who wants to watch it. In regard to Tonali I think like Barella it's going to be very difficult to persuade him to leave Italy. I read that he's been an A.C. Milan fanatic since childhood. Edit. Just thinking there that in terms of him not wanting to leave, it is possible that whatever happened with Maldini being let go as director might have soured Tonali's relationship with the club. It was Maldini who brought Tonali to the club from Brescia and obviously Maldini is almost the embodiment of the club. Edited June 20, 2023 by Polarboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8420 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 hours ago, aimaad22 said: NUFC are a tiny part of PIFs portfolio. And PIF are just one of the tools MBS is using to revamp and re-market Saudi Arabia. Far from being simply used to "revamp and re-market Saudi Arabia" we're part of the diversification of their wealth away from the source of it; oil. It's part of a broader strategy under which divestment from oil and traditional streams of renevue are or will soon be occurring. I'm not suggesting you don't know any of this, just pointing out that they're not throwing money away in a marketing campaign for the country, but rather will be operating the club as part of a broader portfolio that is ultimately designed to maintain and increase their wealth over the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8420 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Polarboy said: This bloke is much more in the Howe physicality mould as compared to Tonali or Barella. Not to say that our future is only full of tall and physical players. Howe knows that's what we've built our success on, but that as we aim to maintain and improve our standing we'll need to improve our attacking versatility especially as teams are likely to become more and more defensively staunch against us. So someone like Nemcha can slot straight into our team, someone like Barella can evolve and improve the way we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4691 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, OTF said: Far from being simply used to "revamp and re-market Saudi Arabia" we're part of the diversification of their wealth away from the source of it; oil. It's part of a broader strategy under which divestment from oil and traditional streams of renevue are or will soon be occurring. I'm not suggesting you don't know any of this, just pointing out that they're not throwing money away in a marketing campaign for the country, but rather will be operating the club as part of a broader portfolio that is ultimately designed to maintain and increase their wealth over the long term. Aye thats true enough, they're trying to emulate what Dubai has done in terms of reducing oil dependency. But I referred to PIF as the revamping tool, not NUFC. In revenue terms the football club will not ever come close to replacing even a tiny portion of their oil revenues. But as part of the larger strategy yes we may be a piece, and tons of money being thrown around now by their league is another. People just shouldn't be surprised about it in this context. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8420 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: Aye thats true enough, they're trying to emulate what Dubai has done in terms of reducing oil dependency. But I referred to PIF as the revamping tool, not NUFC. In revenue terms the football club will not ever come close to replacing even a tiny portion of their oil revenues. But as part of the larger strategy yes we may be a piece, and tons of money being thrown around now by their league is another. People just shouldn't be surprised about it in this context. Spending big money is really the only way to improve your status dramatically in the short term. I don't think it will be financially effective, but there should at least be a resulting improvement in the domestic players as they are exposed to a higher calibre of footballer. Of course, if those players don't give a toss and are there entirely for the money (rather than 95% for the money) it may end up just taking the piss out of the league. The truth will probably be somewhere in between. They're seemingly willing to throw big bikkies away to have a shot. Not like they have to answer to FFP or anything like that. I actually feel that this is going to make our process a much more fulfilling one. We can't just be Chelsea or Man City spending without limit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4691 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Didn't China try to do something similar a few years back to try and give their league a boost? I don't know exactly why that failed but probably a main reason was they never invested enough in the infrastructure around the country, and maybe foreign players never got used to living in the country or didnt like it enough? Saudi will have the same problems. 9 minutes ago, OTF said: Not like they have to answer to FFP or anything like that. I actually feel that this is going to make our process a much more fulfilling one. We can't just be Chelsea or Man City spending without limit. Also makes the club more sustainable long term. We just have to hope the oldies here stick around long enough to see Trippier lift the 2025 FA Cup after the CL semi-final hearbreak before his retirement move to FC Dallas. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3923 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, aimaad22 said: Didn't China try to do something similar a few years back to try and give their league a boost? I don't know exactly why that failed. There were a few reasons, main one was a lack of international broadcasting deal, next was the foreign player limit, I think it was two and the local players level of skill was so far off the imports, even the Australians that played their weren't impressed, that the football was terrible. Lastly covid. All these players going to Saudi might be for merely their league's exposure but hopefully someone involved with it all has the sense to have spoken to those at NUFC, with the smart thought of certain players, Neves for instance, being loaned straight to the toon for the next season or two. Take that FFP. Edited June 21, 2023 by sammynb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19028 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Andrew said: I feel like We're not really bothering with McTominay. For anyone wondering this lad wears number 8, but he'd probably be our new 6. Is it him off Strictly’s brother? 🤔 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22919 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 If it is and there's only room for one Bruno at SJP. His brother can swiftly fuck off. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2338 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 At the last count we seem to have bid 50-60m for at least 5 players. That seems unlikely. Maybe they're just "preparing a bid", paper parlance for "here's some horseshit we made up yesterday over lunchtime pints" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7333 Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 Aye. Like I’m preparing a bid for a threesome with wor lasses sisters-in-law. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22919 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 & Brother in law? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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