Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Alex 36728]

Aye. Not sure he’ll come here for the reasons PL gives but, unlike all those listed - Bruno apart - he’d be comfortable sitting in as part of our usual midfield 3 . And Bruno’s a bit wasted there imo. I definitely think there’ll be better options for us. Especially if we sneak a CL spot and also from a value for money point of view 

[The Fish 11323]

11 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

he wouldn't be a signing to get the pulse racing, but i can see why he might be the sort of player howe would rate - hard worker, high energy and would buy into the pressing style. it's probably the reason why he might favour him over a more glamorous player such as tielemens or neves, who maybe don't have the McT's physical attributes. 

 

most were underwhelmed when longstaff signed a new deal but howe saw something in him that he could work with, and he can unquestionably improve players with the right attitude/work ethic.

 

we are light in central mid, particularly defensive mid, so it adds up and we keep being linked with him (no smoke without fire). i think by turning our noses up at him we're in danger of getting carried away with our own success and possibly also scarred by our recent history of signing cast-offs from the "big" clubs - smith, duff, butt, owen etc. 

 

the thing that would bother me most about signing him is giving the dirty mancs any money. but if howe fancies him it's good enough for me. 

 

Big difference between a low cost extension of Longstaff's contract and spunking tens of millions on a fairly underwhelming player. The qualities you mention; hard worker, high energy, pressing style, can surely be found in a much, much cheaper option?

 

I get that he's got PL experience, and I do think our recruitment post-takeover has been very good, I just don't rate him highly at all. Man United fans are pretty happy at the prospect of getting rid of him.

[Dr Gloom 23643]

3 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

Big difference between a low cost extension of Longstaff's contract and spunking tens of millions on a fairly underwhelming player. The qualities you mention; hard worker, high energy, pressing style, can surely be found in a much, much cheaper option?

 

I get that he's got PL experience, and I do think our recruitment post-takeover has been very good, I just don't rate him highly at all. Man United fans are pretty happy at the prospect of getting rid of him.

 

i agree, i don't rate him highly either but to have played as many games as he has for man u, he's obvs got something about him. 

 

i would also agree that there is better value to be found abroad, but if he's who howe wants who am i to question it? how has plenty of credit in the bank and the recruitment has been superb since he came in. 

[Dr Gloom 23643]

i wasn't that excited when burn or targett signed - i was wrong about both of them. i wasn't thrilled when longstaff signed a new deal - i couldn't have been more wrong. he's been pretty much ever-present and we have big joe (our second best midfielder) playing out wide to accommodate him. 

[The Fish 11323]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

i agree, i don't rate him highly either but to have played as many games as he has for man u, he's obvs got something about him. 

 

i would also agree that there is better value to be found abroad, but if he's who howe wants who am i to question it? how has plenty of credit in the bank and the recruitment has been superb since he came in. 

Wes Brown

 

[Alex 36728]

1 hour ago, wykikitoon said:

 

 

 

Irrespective of whether he’s a decent option two goals in one international match doesnt settle the argument. 

[PaddockLad 19020]

There’s another way of looking at it… the lad has got something to prove. I think when he chose to play for Scotland he got a load of stick but wherever he’s been picked to play by Steve Clark (he was sometimes on the right of a back 3) he got his head down, didn’t listen to the bullshit and was usually a 7/10 most games. Now he’s one of the first names on the team sheet and hugely popular among the fanbase which was inconceivable when he came into the squad. He might have to do it all again at SJP but he’s shown that sort of thing doesn’t phase him. Am sure he’d be a “right I’ll fuckin show Man Utd” sort of character 👍

[PaddockLad 19020]

5 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Wes Brown

 

Are you suggesting Wes Brown wouldn’t have got in our champions league side in front of Bramble and O’Brien? ….

 

 

[The Fish 11323]

Just now, PaddockLad said:

Are you suggesting Wes Brown wouldn’t have got in our champions league side in front of Bramble and O’Brien? ….

 

 

I'm saying Wes Brown was bang average, moved and was worse. Playing a lot of times for Manchester United isn't necessarily a sign of much.

[Dr Gloom 23643]

is he an expensive option? yes, but you're paying a premium for PL and champion league experience

 

does he improve our squad? yes

 

does he start most games? up for debate

 

would he want to swap man u's bench for ours? unlikely

 

would man u sell for a reasonable fee? hard to imagine so after the lingard farce

 

would we pay over the odds for him? almost certainly not

 

the deal would have to make sense for all parties. we've shown we won't be taken for mugs. it's a deal i could see happening but there are plenty of moving parts 

[The Fish 11323]

10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

is he an expensive option? yes, but you're paying a premium for PL and champion league experience

 

does he improve our squad? yes

 

does he start most games? up for debate

 

would he want to swap man u's bench for ours? unlikely

 

would man u sell for a reasonable fee? hard to imagine so after the lingard farce

 

would we pay over the odds for him? almost certainly not

 

the deal would have to make sense for all parties. we've shown we won't be taken for mugs. it's a deal i could see happening but there are plenty of moving parts 

 

Yes

A little, sure

Maybe

Nope

Nope

Yup

 

 

[PaddockLad 19020]

1 minute ago, The Fish said:

I'm saying Wes Brown was bang average, moved and was worse. Playing a lot of times for Manchester United isn't necessarily a sign of much.

You’re not entirely wrong, but would he have been an upgrade on what we had? This is obviously pre injury which is why he was replaced with the world class Vidic You’ve picked the wrong player iyam he played 200 + times and won the champs lge 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14687]

I’m all for signing a deeper sitting midfielder to push Bruno on but I reckon we can find a better deal on the continent as I imagine we’ll have our eyes ripped out by Man Utd. See the Lingard situation for evidence of that. McTominay does have a fuck load of European experience, mind which I can see playing into Howe’s thinking. I also think Mr Eddie Howe may need heavily convinced to sign European based players unless they’re immediately a huge upgrade ala Bruno, Botman and Isak

[The Fish 11323]

2 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

You’re not entirely wrong, but would he have been an upgrade on what we had? This is obviously pre injury which is why he was replaced with the world class Vidic You’ve picked the wrong player iyam he played 200 + times and won the champs lge 

Who Brown? Yeah he's won the Champions League, but he was shite. Shite players have won loads of things. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14687]

Reckon John O’Shea was more of a plodder than Wes Brown tbh. He could have only hung about Man Utd so long because he was “versatile” and on a pittance comparatively 

[PaddockLad 19020]

5 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Who Brown? Yeah he's won the Champions League, but he was shite. Shite players have won loads of things. 

If you’d have said Nicky Butt I’d have agreed. You’re thinking post injury mackem Brown. He was definitely better than what we had in that position when we were finishing in the top 5 iyam

[Chaser 1367]

I fail to see McTom as a genuine option. He will be overpriced and he's just not that good. There's got to be better DMs at that price with plenty of Euro experience. 

[Dr Gloom 23643]

i remember brown being a canny defender before he went to the mackems for a final pay day  

[strawb 4645]

Youse are all arguing about a player mentioned in an article by a know knowt, must be international week 

[Meenzer 16447]

He's blunt, but he's got a point.

[Gemmill 49987]

If we end up getting McTominay, I couldn't give a fuck how much we pay for him. It's not coming out my bank account. It fucking better not anyway.

[Andrew 5153]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

If we end up getting McTominay, I couldn't give a fuck how much we pay for him. It's not coming out my bank account. It fucking better not anyway.

 

The only reason I care about it is that FFP now means we have a limit on spending and I want us to be as good as possible as soon as possible.

IF we could spend 50 million on McTominay or 30 on someone as good from elsewhere I want us to do that so we can invest more in the team.

 

 

[strawb 4645]

19 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said:

 

its fun to discuss 'what ifs' scenarios 

We must have different ideas of fun mush

[The Fish 11323]

10 hours ago, Andrew said:

 

The only reason I care about it is that FFP now means we have a limit on spending and I want us to be as good as possible as soon as possible.

IF we could spend 50 million on McTominay or 30 on someone as good from elsewhere I want us to do that so we can invest more in the team.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's the thing for me, it's not that McTominay is so bad that he'd be a net negative on the team, it's that for the position he plays, there are cheaper alternatives with greater talent/potential.

 

Said it before, but Milinkovic Savic can play the same position as McTominay and is much, much better and would definitely be available for <£45m

[Dr Gloom 23643]

On 29/03/2023 at 20:34, strawb said:

Youse are all arguing about a player mentioned in an article by a know knowt, must be international week 

 

romano reckons we're after him too. it's a few credible sources now that have suggested he's on our list