Transfers, 2024-25 season

[wykikitoon 22870]

He's better than CN but that's not hard. He's pretty decent. 

[Polarboy 2317]

The problem with the Franca deal is we don't have much leverage. If we're not willing to pay the release it's no skin off Flamengo's nose to keep him until at least the summer. He's only 18 so there's no rush for them to do anything. The only thing that might push them to sell is if Franca's head has been turned. 

[OTF 8417]

4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

He's got 14mil followers tbf. Can't be completely full of bullshit 

[Polarboy 2317]

Gordon, Ashby, Berge and Franca would be a very nice mix of ready to start and massive potential. Franca and Ashby would likely be bench players or at least in the squad, but Gordon and Berge would be pushing to start. And obviously Berge would be the oldest as someone who'll be 25 soon so Howe could really work his magic. Partly theoretical at this point of course in the cases of Berge and Franca. 

[wykikitoon 22870]

Fucking CN must be on his 3rd bottle of malbec tonight 

[Polarboy 2317]

Franca was reportedly on the bench for a big Brazilian cup match tonight and he usually starts, so that might indicate he's on his way, or at the very least his head wasn't right. Howay will obviously pay no heed to the not starting possibly being an indication of anything of course 😂 👍

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[Polarboy 2317]

Berge is surely done then if Shelvey has been confirmed. It would be uncharacteristically cavalier for Howe and Ashworth to let Shelvey go without somebody definitely lined up regardless of how much sense the deal made otherwise for the club and the player. 

Edited January 29, 2023 by Polarboy

[Polarboy 2317]

 

[PaddockLad 19013]

😀

 

 

[Howay 12496]

I’ll be absolutely buzzing for us to finally be rid of Jonjo fucking Shelvey. I’m confused by comments regarding his attitude, the bloke is an absolute prick and took the piss for 8 fucking years I couldn’t give a flying fuck if he finally decided to start turning up once a manager held him accountable. If it’s true we got 10m for the cunt we’ve absolute rinsed Forest this window. They can enjoy him kicking 40 yard passes out to touch while he has 3 better options on. 

Edited January 29, 2023 by Howay

[trophyshy 7332]

Sandy Beige is 6 ft 5 so I’d say he’s definitely joining Eddie’s Giants.  

[Polarboy 2317]

😂 I've just had a load of on the spectrum Brazilian football fans descend upon me on twitter for daring to suggest that our offer of 20m, for an 18 year old who's only ever played in Brazil and has only just broken into the first team, was probably fair. They came back to me with names like Vinicius etc to give examples of players who've went for much more than that. I somehow doubt Franca is on Vinicius' level, but it would nice wouldn't it. 

[Rosco 878]

1 hour ago, Howay said:

I’ll be absolutely buzzing for us to finally be rid of Jonjo fucking Shelvey. I’m confused by comments regarding his attitude, the bloke is an absolute prick and took the piss for 8 fucking years I couldn’t give a flying fuck if he finally decided to start turning up once a manager held him accountable. If it’s true we got 10m for the cunt we’ve absolute rinsed Forest this window. They can enjoy him kicking 40 yard passes out to touch while he has 3 better options on. 

He was one those players who was good on his day......which meant one good game in ten......just pleased he's hopfully fucked off for good

Edited January 30, 2023 by Rosco

[RobinRobin 12486]

6 hours ago, t00nraider2 said:

Spends more time trying to get sent off than scoring a goal. Would be fab to get rid.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

10 hours ago, RobElliott said:

Is this Romano boyo a more professional Sean Casey or does he actually have connections?

yeah, he’s a proper reporter with connections. Not one of these ITK bullshit artists 

[Alex 36719]

10 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

Fucking CN must be on his 3rd bottle of £3.99 Pinot Grigio tonight 

FYP

[Dr Gloom 23642]

10 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

Fucking CN must be on his 3rd bottle of malbec tonight 

Always had him down as a pino grigiot man

 

9 hours ago, Howay said:

I’ll be absolutely buzzing for us to finally be rid of Jonjo fucking Shelvey. I’m confused by comments regarding his attitude, the bloke is an absolute prick and took the piss for 8 fucking years I couldn’t give a flying fuck if he finally decided to start turning up once a manager held him accountable. If it’s true we got 10m for the cunt we’ve absolute rinsed Forest this window. They can enjoy him kicking 40 yard passes out to touch while he has 3 better options on. 

I’m going to defend him. He was our best player the season we came back up under Rafa. One of our best players while Rafa was manager full stop tbf, and the one who could play a forward pass in a negative team. 
 

I agree about his attitude - it’s the reason he ended up at playing for Ashley’s Newcastle  instead of making at Liverpool. And he was pretty rotten while Bruce was in charge, but then who wasn’t? It’ll always be a question of what if with him. It’s a short career and he’ll probably look back and reflect that he wasted a lot of it. 
 

It’s a shame because he is blessed with ability that not a lot of players have -  he is one of the best passers of the ball I’ve ever seen play for us - but I agree he lacked the desire to make it as a top player. I feel a bit for him because I think he can see where the club is going and he busted a gut to raise his game so he could be part of it. Last season was his best ever for us. Shame for him personally that in the end it was too little, too late. 

[Dr Gloom 23642]

5 minutes ago, Alex said:

FYP

 

JINX  

[wykikitoon 22870]

9 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Always had him down as a pino grigiot man

 

I’m going to defend him. He was our best player the season we came back up under Rafa. One of our best players while Rafa was manager full stop tbf, and the one who could play a forward pass in a negative team. 
 

I agree about his attitude - it’s the reason he ended up at playing for Ashley’s Newcastle  instead of making at Liverpool. And he was pretty rotten while Bruce was in charge, but then who wasn’t? It’ll always be a question of what if with him. It’s a short career and he’ll probably look back and reflect that he wasted a lot of it. 
 

It’s a shame because he is blessed with ability that not a lot of players have -  he is one of the best passers of the ball I’ve ever seen play for us - but I agree he lacked the desire to make it as a top player. I feel a bit for him because I think he can see where the club is going and he busted a gut to raise his game so he could be part of it. Last season was his best ever for us. Shame for him personally that in the end it was too little, too late. 

 

My feelings too.  (Not the wine). Shame he got that injury as it could have been a great season for him. He looked on form and fit and buzzing to go.

[Holden McGroin 7624]

Aye. I’m Pro-Shelvey as well. He would have been in first choice midfield this season but for that bad injury. 
 

The transfer makes sense for both.  He’ll get 3 years at Forest whereas he’d only be on another year here as a bit part player

 

He has great ability but lacks pace and closing down which this team now requires. Ive also never seen a player so head and shoulders above - when he played in the championship. Good luck to him.

 

[OTF 8417]

As per Gloomy and Wyki was looking forward to see how he could fit in. He was the fittest he had ever been and genuinely motivated to earn a spot in the team. On some level he knew that this was his chance to go out on a high so he was doing all he could to make the most of it including being positionally more diligent, defensively more active and generally more disciplined, the three biggest criticisms that have plagued his career.

 

He matured a few seasons too late to be honest. I thought he had triggered his extension here, but that must not be the case. Howe believed in him and was all set to bring him back into the rotation before his second injury. Perhaps now Shelvey sees Longstaff embedded and Gordon and Isak taking another forward/midfield position making it harder for him to crack a spot. If he doesn't go he's the kind of depth we should keep IMO, someone different and skilled who could potentially offer a lot of value in training.

 

[Alex 36719]

I think he’d have been usurped as a first team player anyway as he lacks the physical attributes needed for the way Howe wants to play anyway. And his technical ability (although very good) doesn’t make up for that. Apart from the one half season before the Russia World Cup I haven’t been impressed with him. He’s one of those who strikes a lovely looking 60 yard pass to a team mate in a position no better than the one he was in that makes people in the crowd applaud. If we can get rid and command a fee I’ll be delighted. He’s bang average (at best) and I’d say the same about his attitude for most of his time here.