Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Monkeys Fist 44976]

6 minutes ago, MMXXVIII said:

 

Claimed there were only 2 genders.

Never mind that shit, what about our attendance numbers, eh? 
 

Phstephen. 

[RobinRobin 12408]

11 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

Hmmm read somewhere he didn't, must be wrong though, now I know how Gemmill feels 😕

Constipated? 

[OTF 8322]

9 hours ago, Holden McGroin said:

 

ManUre have done us if these details are correct. Firstly they wanted to screw us over on Lingard. Now they want him on loan for free (ish) and probably won't buy him in the summer. Plus if Pope gets injured or has a drop in form he is far superior to Darlow.

 

Bad deal for NUFC.

 

Whatever you think of the deal at least now we know that any incoming funds or reduction in wages will be put to use in improving the squad.

 

For me Dubravka hasn't been at his best since returning from major injury. I have no qualms with him wanting to leave instead of playing second fiddle to Pope who has hit the ground running. Manure are competing on more fronts so Dubravka will get more game time there as second choice, plus there is the slim possibility of being able to win his place as first choice. He's already 33 years old, and whilst many goal keepers play deep into their 30s even more don't, especially those with injury problems. Pope is 3+ years younger, has fit immediately into the team and looks better than Dubravka - on balance no matter how you look at it we've done a good bit of business in the keeping department. Sure it would be preferable to have more quality in reserve but we're not there yet in terms of squad depth. The money from this can be much more effectively used elsewhere on the pitch.

[Toonpack 11289]

We've only ever seen Darlow play mostly with a disorganised rabble in front of him, he'd be playing behind an organised defence this time if called upon. Trust the coaches tbh.

Edited August 31, 2022 by Toonpack

[Kid Dynamite 7568]

He had a full season behind a decent Rafa defence in the Championship. He's bang average 

[Chaser 1355]

If Dubravka improves Man U then it's bad business for us as they are the team we should be looking to displace given their ability to implode. If there's one club I hate in the prem it's Man U, I delight at their demise. I hope Ten Hag is another failure on their list of burned managers and that their latest signings flop under the pressure. 

[Polarboy 2317]

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1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:

He had a full season behind a decent Rafa defence in the Championship. He's bang average 

 

Bang average is pretty much what you'd expect from a second choice keeper at the mid table PL club.

[Holden McGroin 7502]

Aye, id take average for a 2nd string goalie (was third)

[Toonpack 11289]

There was a thread on twitter (which I can't now find) talking about Pope with all sorts of Fish-esque analysis/graphics for all sorts of different facets of all GK's, it showed Pope way ahead of Dubravka and just about everyone else btw, interestingly Darlow was also on it and also ahead of him in many areas (marginally mind)

[Alex 36596]

1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:

He had a full season behind a decent Rafa defence in the Championship. He's bang average 

Until we can offer European football and the realistic chance of getting to the latter stages of the domestic cups most seasons then that’s probably what we’re stuck with. 

[Kid Dynamite 7568]

I'd put up with Almiron/Murphy on the wing til January if we pulled off the signing of Tielemans 

[Kid Dynamite 7568]

 

[PaddockLad 18914]

2 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

He had a full season behind a decent Rafa defence in the Championship. He's bang average 

Did you want Dubravka replacing at the end of last season? If you didn’t then we’re still in the same position ie Darrow is  back up. It’s only an advantage to Man Utd if Pope gets injured…. 

[Howmanheyman 36320]

7 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

 

 

"Offer £19m for Tielemens but don't say who we are. If NUFC want him it'll concentrate a few minds at SJP and it'll keep the inhabitants of Wearside agitated."

 

[ewerk 32993]

19 milly for tellymans

 

from,

 

his secret admirer xxx

[Kid Dynamite 7568]

16 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Did you want Dubravka replacing at the end of last season? If you didn’t then we’re still in the same position ie Darrow is  back up. It’s only an advantage to Man Utd if Pope gets injured…. 

I'm not complaining, but it's a fact that Dubravka would be a better back up to Pope than Darlow. Doesn't matter if he's unwilling to play that role though 

[Dr Gloom 23461]

Tielemens would complete the best transfer window for at least 20 years. 

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4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I'm not complaining, but it's a fact that Dubravka would be a better back up to Pope than Darlow. Doesn't matter if he's unwilling to play that role though 

 

Aye, Howe has worked hard on getting a positive changing room atmosphere. If Dubravka really wanted to leave then best to let him go for the good of the squad.

[Chaser 1355]

27 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I'd put up with Almiron/Murphy on the wing til January if we pulled off the signing of Tielemans 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4244]

Why haven't we started with 25mill we have with every fucker else

[Polarboy 2317]

Tielemans is in the last year of his contract I think, so he should go for less than he normally would. You'd assume they'd still be looking for around the 30m mark. Plus Arsenal have been heavily linked, so I'm not sure how realistic these links are, but as people have said he'd be perfect for our midfield. 

[sammynb 3892]

42 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Did you want Dubravka replacing at the end of last season? If you didn’t then we’re still in the same position ie Darrow is  back up. It’s only an advantage to Man Utd if Pope gets injured…. 

 

If the current projectories of both clubs go as expected, Dubs might be hoping that Man U don't want to complete his transfer after this season on loan.

Backup keeper for a club on the slide or backup keeper for a club on the rise - once this year's WC is over and we see which club finishes higher up the ladder, season 23/24 might be a different prospect.

[Craig 6799]

6 hours ago, OTF said:

 

Whatever you think of the deal at least now we know that any incoming funds or reduction in wages will be put to use in improving the squad.

 

For me Dubravka hasn't been at his best since returning from major injury. I have no qualms with him wanting to leave instead of playing second fiddle to Pope who has hit the ground running. Manure are competing on more fronts so Dubravka will get more game time there as second choice, plus there is the slim possibility of being able to win his place as first choice. He's already 33 years old, and whilst many goal keepers play deep into their 30s even more don't, especially those with injury problems. Pope is 3+ years younger, has fit immediately into the team and looks better than Dubravka - on balance no matter how you look at it we've done a good bit of business in the keeping department. Sure it would be preferable to have more quality in reserve but we're not there yet in terms of squad depth. The money from this can be much more effectively used elsewhere on the pitch.

 

This is it for me like. Taking all emotion out of it, it makes sound business sense. 

 

Getting a 33 year old off the payroll, Saving around £6m in wages plus a £5m transfer fee should his appearances meet a certain criteria. 

In short, this deal more than pays for Pope's transfer fee. And we've ended up with a better player. Win/Win for me.

[Craig 6799]

1 hour ago, Toonpack said:

There was a thread on twitter (which I can't now find) talking about Pope with all sorts of Fish-esque analysis/graphics for all sorts of different facets of all GK's, it showed Pope way ahead of Dubravka and just about everyone else btw, interestingly Darlow was also on it and also ahead of him in many areas (marginally mind)

 

That'll be this I assume: