Transfers, 2024-25 season

[wykikitoon 22615]

Agree with Gloomy and it was muted in the young tory poddy.

Would Botman and Bruno be happy if we finish 10th this season because we failed to secure a forward or someone like Maddison?  Would we still get a decent new sponsorship after Fun88 went?  If so then other teams know we have more firepower and therefore negotiations are again going to be 'interesting' 

 

 

[The Fish 11312]

13 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

So according to some we are restrained by FFP but are ok to pay over the odds in Jan when it's nigh on impossible to sign a striker.

Makes sense.

It's not that we can't spunk a shit ton of money on whomever we want, it's just that it makes more sense to keep that wriggle room for when it's needed. It's not needed right now. 

[wykikitoon 22615]

5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

Harrison it is then

[The Fish 11312]

6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

i partially agree. we will be fine with the squad we have and are well equipped with our current manager and players to finish in mid table again and avoid another relegaton battle. 

 

but have the likes of botman and bruno signed for a season of consolidation? they bought into the project but they're going to want european football sooner rather than later - and to see real progression this season even if we fall short of silverware or the european places. 

 

i think at the very least we need a striker before the window closes. signing maddison as well as a striker would be a statement of intent, not just to other potential signings but to the rest of the PL establishment. like when keegan told fergie we're coming for you. 

Yeah I'd love to see a striker come in. I think we could afford both. 

 

I don't believe for a second that if we fail in our bid for Maddison we'll shut up shop and go home. If anything, our pursuit of Maddison says we're not done, not by a long shot.

[wykikitoon 22615]

Just now, The Fish said:

Yeah I'd love to see a striker come in. I think we could afford both. 

 

I don't believe for a second that if we fail in our bid for Maddison we'll shut up shop and go home. If anything, our pursuit of Maddison says we're not done, not by a long shot.

It's a response to a hypothetical question.  If the window was shut now would you be happy.  You're answer is yes.  

[Craig 6796]

26 minutes ago, The Fish said:

We've signed a top 'keeper, a hugely promising CB, and an uber-reliable PL left back, plus Anderson, Almiron both look good in preseason, so I'd be excited about the January window already. 

 

You've been sloshing around in a full nappy since before the window opened man.  What is the worst that could happen? We'd be without Wilson for the first half of the season and play with Wood up front. We showed in the 2nd half of the season we could win without Wilson, win enough to stay out of the relegation conversation at least. Then, January comes around and he's no where near fitness? then we'll go off and sign some striker and pay over the odds for. 

 

We're not going down this season so, with all due respect, why are you such a little girl?

 

I have to agree with this also. 

The focus is understandably on incoming, of which we've made great strides as outlined by Dave, but we should be mindful that other business is being conducted by the club - Hayden, Woodman, Hendrick, Clark & Gayle out, Darlsey Park refit underway, Ashworth starting as Technical Director, Eales appointed as CEO.

I don't get this "if the window was to hypothetically end tomorrow...." attitude. The fact is, it's not - it's got over 4 weeks left and the club will be operating and arranging deals within those parameters. 

Deny it all you like but it is pissy-pants behaviour. You're basically shitting yourself that deals may not come off. Even if that IS the case, we're in a far better position squad wise than we were at the 2021-22 season close. 

[wykikitoon 22615]

We aren't allowed to debate or ask questions on a forum now?  Fuck me.

[The Fish 11312]

1 minute ago, wykikitoon said:

We aren't allowed to debate or ask questions on a forum now?  Fuck me.

We can, just not these pissy pants "What if the world was terrible and everything was awful, would you be happy then?" questions.  

[wykikitoon 22615]

1 minute ago, The Fish said:

We can, just not these pissy pants "What if the world was terrible and everything was awful, would you be happy then?" questions.  

Don't go in the Politics thread then.  Serious skid marks from the hypocrits  

[MrBass 2980]

I think the majority on here would be pretty underwhelmed if we didn't manage to get an attacking playing in during this window. How that equates to people having wet kegs is beyond me.

 

All the talk before the window opened was how exciting this transfer window is going to be but in reality it hasn't. Has it been better than previous seasons under Ashley? Of course! Is it the window most of us thought we'd be getting? For me, the answer is no.

 

Obviously we're unaware of what is actually happening behinds the scenes, but what we are seeing is frustrating as fuck. Doesn't mean I'm worried for the start of the season or that I've soiled my undergarments, just means I'm frustrated by what I've been seeing reported on our perceived targets and transfer policy to date.

[The Fish 11312]

37 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

Agree with this - the detail, not the Wykiki baiting

 

We got a perfectly reasonable midtable finish last season, we have improved considerably since then, and the plan probably isn't to qualify for Europe this time out. On that basis, it's a consolidation season and we have two senior strikers on the books already in a system that will only use one of them.

 

We're fine if they can't get anyone else in.

And say we're 10th in January, we see that there's the potential to break into the European spots if we fill the missing piece of the puzzle. Suddenly Maddison has 18 months left on his deal, Leicester are struggling in 15th, we go back in with a £40m bid. Boom, Maddison, Europe and blowjobs from hot Slavic girls in your area. 

[The Fish 11312]

1 minute ago, wykikitoon said:

Don't go in the Politics thread then.  Serious skid marks from the hypocrits  

The world is terrible wykiki, the trick is just being ok with that.

[MrBass 2980]

1 minute ago, The Fish said:

And say we're 10th in January, we see that there's the potential to break into the European spots if we fill the missing piece of the puzzle. Suddenly Maddison has 18 months left on his deal, Leicester are struggling in 15th, we go back in with a £40m bid. Boom, Maddison, Europe and blowjobs from hot Slavic girls in your area. 

 

Put the brush down Picasso and get back to your spreadsheets. 

[Dr Gloom 23444]

There is literally no bed wetting going on at this stage that I can see. It’s all feels quite reasoned to me at this stage. Some signs of frustration but nothing too panicky yet. Whether that changes if we fail to land more signings by September 1st is another matter.

 

I believe we will sign at least a CF and a midfielder and/or winger before the window closes. Whether it’s a £50m marquee signing such as Maddison or a less a fancied plan c option such as cornet remains to be seen. Either way it’s still massive improvement  from where we were this time last season!

[The Fish 11312]

1 minute ago, MrBass said:

I think the majority on here would be pretty underwhelmed if we didn't manage to get an attacking playing in during this window. How that equates to people having wet kegs is beyond me.

 

All the talk before the window opened was how exciting this transfer window is going to be but in reality it hasn't. Has it been better than previous seasons under Ashley? Of course! Is it the window most of us thought we'd be getting? For me, the answer is no.

 

Obviously we're unaware of what is actually happening behinds the scenes, but what we are seeing is frustrating as fuck. Doesn't mean I'm worried for the start of the season or that I've soiled my undergarments, just means I'm frustrated by what I've been seeing reported on our perceived targets and transfer policy to date.

It is frustrating, but the new restrictions, a post-COVID football landscape, the delay in getting DoF and CEO positions filled, our transfer strategy vs our perceived wealth... This was always going to be a difficult window. As they will be for the foreseeable.

[Craig 6796]

5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

There is literally no bed wetting going on at this stage that I can see.

 

Gloom has not only gone nose-blind, he's now gone fully blind!

There is 4 fucking weeks of the window to go, IF (and it's a massive if) we're in the same situation we are right now then people may have something to grumble about. Pre-empting that by a month is classic pissy-pants behaviour.

[Howmanheyman 36291]

26 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

We aren't allowed to debate or ask questions on a forum now? I mean, isn't that what forums are for?  Fuck me.

TT'dYP

[Dr Gloom 23444]

3 minutes ago, Craig said:

 

Gloom has not only gone nose-blind, he's now gone fully blind!

There is 4 fucking weeks of the window to go, IF (and it's a massive if) we're in the same situation we are right now then people may have something to grumble about. Pre-empting that by a month is classic pissy-pants behaviour.

 

i don’t see anyone grumbling to any great extent on here. I enjoy the debate and measured exchange of views here. Twitter is another matter 

[Craig 6796]

4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

i don’t see anyone grumbling to any great extent on here. I enjoy the debate and measured exchange of views here. Twitter is another matter 

 

There's a fair degree of unnecessary worrying going on. Personally I think we've had a great window so far, and we're only halfway through it. 

I agree that mainstream social media is far worse, but we do have people on here who are starting sentences along the lines of "I'm not bed-wetting but, ..... "
 

[OTF 8322]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Can't remember if the same happened with Bruno. 

 

We didn't get the play by play on that, there was little said before it was effectively confirmed is my recollection.

 

Once it's in the 'media' brinkmanship comes heavily into play with neither party wanting to seem the weaker in the dealings, especially when they're both in the same league and more or less competing for the same places. Whether or not Maddison wants to go is probably the most crucial factor as they'll possibly see this as their best chance to see him for the maximum profit.

 

Given I'm now an expert on amortisation his value on the books for Leicester is only 8m so on the balance sheet a sale of 50m is a huge boon. If he stays another year and refuses to re-sign they risk that differential dropping notably with the balance of power swinging further in the players balance. This past season was by far his best as far as numbers go so there's also the possibility that he has a markedly less prolific season and his value declines.

 

As far as his value for us goes I'm not sure whether he would work that well with Wilson,  possibly better with someone with explosive acceleration who can work with sharp interplay. That said in our side Wilson has scarcely had the chance to work with someone like that and now he has Bruno and potentially Maddison so perhaps I'm not giving Callum the respect he deserves assuming the clumsy crock is not injured.

[Dr Gloom 23444]

Just now, Craig said:

 

There's a fair degree of unnecessary worrying going on. Personally I think we've had a great window so far, and we're only halfway through it. 

I agree that mainstream social media is far worse, but we do have people on here who are starting sentences along the lines of "I'm not bed-wetting but, ..... "
 

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask if people would be happy if we don’t do any further business before the window shuts.
 

I’m happy with the business we’ve done so far too but I fully expect to see a couple of forward players come in as we’re a little short for where we want to be without them. It wouldn’t be a disaster but it would take the edge off what could potentially our best transfer window for some time. We’re only a Maddison and Werner away from calling this a chef’s kiss window. 

[Dr Gloom 23444]

Tripper linking up with Bruno and Maddison

 

[Craig 6796]

3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask if people would be happy if we don’t do any further business before the window shuts.
 

I’m happy with the business we’ve done so far too but I fully expect to see a couple of forward players come in as we’re a little short for where we want to be without them. It wouldn’t be a disaster but it would take the edge off what could potentially our best transfer window for some time. We’re only a Maddison and Werner away from calling this a chef’s kiss window. 

 

Even if we don't sign another player it already is 'our best transfer window for some time'. This is the root of my frustrations, and it is driven more by the clowns on mainstream social media than on here. Many are coming across as though they have seemingly forgotten just how shit it was before.

[Dr Gloom 23444]

Just now, Craig said:

 

Even if we don't sign another player it already is 'our best transfer window for some time'. This is the root of my frustrations, and it is driven more by the clowns on mainstream social media than on here. Many are coming across as though they have seemingly forgotten just how shit it was before.

I disagree - the January window was better as things stand. Trippier and Bruno were massive statement signings. I’d put Botman potentially in the same bracket as those two. If we sign Maddison and a quality striker on loan with option to buy, similar to the Targett deal, then this window wins.

[OTF 8322]

2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

there is a benchmark for players of a certain level already set in this window though, right? If you’re Leicester and you have seen Jesus and Richarlison both go for £50-60m you’re going to want a similar fee for Maddison because he’s in that bracket of proven PL forward  

 

Jesus was £45m, Richarlison £50 potentially rising to 60 with add-ons allegedly. We're already in the ball park. With our Brazilian connections I'd have prefered Jesus, though his wages would be higher. I think that where we're in a good position with Maddison in that he has a proven record in the prem but won't be on exorbitant wages.