Rayvin 5900 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 11 hours ago, scoobos said: even if, imo. We've finally got a bit of depth . Yes it's dissapointing we haven't got a striking option - but honestly, last year's team was good enough for top 10 , if Howe was here since day 1 - this one is much improved. Everyone we've rid of - wouldn't get a chance even if Wilson or Bruno got injured. All my opinion, but I'm super happy with deals made last year, that we still haven't seen the benefit of (Trippier, for example) - and having watched and followed wood's international career I think he's a cracking player and hopefully just needs to settle in. Expecting instant results is a bit of a thing nowadays imo, as the Premiership is spoilt with the best of the best - I still think it takes at least a year for any "normal" player to truly gel with the team. I've not been this excited for years , proper buzzin! I agree with this really. We look so much better than we did a year ago just closing out last season that I'm really very relaxed about the new season start. No chance we'll be bottom half, and that's really the only aim I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22603 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 The 'bit of depth' isn't so though is it. Wilson injured and we have Wood and ........ oh that's it. It's the ASM / Fraser / Miggy / Murphy situation where we are weak as fuck. Defence, I am a bit more relaxed on due to the stepping yup of Krafth. Targett goes and it's nipping time, but I think we are ok there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22603 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 That's of course if we go into the season with the current squad. Which IMO we wont as at least one more addition will be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1328 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I think there will be a lot of people trying to convince themselves that it's for the best and they don't want us to have the piss taken out of us by other clubs and agents if we don't sign the two attacking players that we need this summer. Whatever they come up with wouldn't be able to hide the fact that this transfer window will have been a pretty big disapointment if we were to finish it with the same squad we have at this moment. Yes we've signed one of the top up and comming centrebacks in Europe but our defence was excellent in the second half of last season against all but the very best attacking outfits. It clearly wasn't the area in most need of improvement. That said I can't believe that those looking after these things aren't acutely aware of that fact and I'm confident that they will be working on addressing this before the window ends and that whatever funds needed will be available. I would have hoped we would have the players in by now, but January proved that we are prepared to wait until the very end of the window to bring in the players we need. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Aye I’m confident that we will sign attackers. It’s hard looking at the end of last season as there was a lot of momentum/excitement from the takeover/just get to summer safe and we will be flying attitude, if we look at the lack of goals scored/assisted from our forward line even over those games it’s still fairly low. Almiron, Fraser, and Murphy struggle at this level for goal involvements, they have other aspects to their games but we really need goal involvements and “fret” up front as our CM doesn’t create/score loads outside of Bruno’s late season run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22603 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Was interesting listening to the Pod on the Tyne and saying they would start with Fraser, Wilson and Miggy. I.e drop Le Sulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 The way Miggy has been playing in preseason he deserves to start on the right and be given a chance to try and bring that form in the league, almost regardless of who we sign before the window closes. Just for practical purposes said player would need to bed in anyway. Fraser at the very least should be getting twenty minutes off ASM on the left, if it's looking like ASM is going to have a game where he's falling over and whinging more often than playing for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Chicken nonce is predicting that we'll use all of our remaining money on one player, and use a loan to fill one of the two priority positions. It seems plausible enough if we could get somebody like a Hudson Odoi, Werner, etc on loan, and then maybe go all out for Diaby or DCL. I know Diaby has said he's staying, but money talks at the end of the day. The problem is that we'll likely be very close to the end of the window to get the best loan deals, and by that time the player that we'd splash out on could have gone elsewhere, or his club would be loathe to let a big player leave that late if they don't have a suitable replacement in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 1163 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I'm not wetting my pants on this but I wouldn't be too surprised if we didn't get anyone else in. Sometimes we will have to walk away from priority areas, like Man City did with Kane last year, to stop us being rolled over in the future. It may be frustrating but it is still light years ahead of the Ashley days. People spent all last year laughing at the fact Man City got Grealish and not Kane but I think it was the right process. They got Harland this year for a price that they wanted to pay rather than Kane for a price that Tottenham thought that they would pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3879 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Sorry but players like Bruno and Botman will be kicking up a stink if we don't sign a couple more class players. They have been sold the project and it will have an expectaion of timelines of when things are happening. They will understand it will take a few years, Botman even said that but they won't be standing around waiting if it isn't to the timeline they've been sold. And TBH at the moment we will be lucky to finish 8th if we cannot add to the teams goal scoring capabilities - regardless I feel the club will have told them a minimum of Europe in some form for 23/24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23420 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 i have no doubt we're getting a couple more in - even if it means a couple of last minute deals, or waiting and tapping the loan market. you can see they're actively chasing forwards and wingers - potentially a creative midfielder too, given the links to paqueta and tielemans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49496 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Well sign more players lads. Don't worry about it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11239 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Well sign more players lads. Don't worry about it. Of that I have no doubt, but will they be big enough names we’ve never heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16330 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Toonpack said: big enough names we’ve never heard of. We've got form there 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22603 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Meenzer said: We've got form there The first papa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Gloom 23420 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 just one cornet. oh, give him to me. is he better than what we have? his goal return last season would suggest so, even if he's not quite as exciting as some of the names we've been linked with 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22603 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Used to play with Bruno which I never knew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7567 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Just call me Casey, Sean Casey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49496 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 TalkSport eh.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1328 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, sammynb said: Sorry but players like Bruno and Botman will be kicking up a stink if we don't sign a couple more class players. They have been sold the project and it will have an expectaion of timelines of when things are happening. They will understand it will take a few years, Botman even said that but they won't be standing around waiting if it isn't to the timeline they've been sold. And TBH at the moment we will be lucky to finish 8th if we cannot add to the teams goal scoring capabilities - regardless I feel the club will have told them a minimum of Europe in some form for 23/24. This would be my concern also. Of course it's all if's and buts at this stage but the supporters, players and manager will all be expecting improvements in our attackers and if that doesn't happen then it will be a bad look to everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 1163 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I don't think that they will have been told we are signing big name players. I think the project is clear to see already. We have a solid back line and it has a bit of depth. The centre of the park is decent. Obviously up front we have our issues. I am hoping the ASM pulls himself together a bit as it would be depressing to see another talent go to waste. I have never 'got' Miggy and obviously Wilson will be out for a few spells. I think we should push Willock a bit further up the pitch as he seems to do better there. I don't think we 'will not sign any more players but I don't think that it would be the end of the world if we don't. Between Pope, Trips, Burn, Botman, Targett, Bruno and even Wood as a back up is impressive. 5/6 improvements to the starting 11. I think it is like people are saying about the sponsorship next year, we will also start to attract other people who will see us at the business end of the table rather than in the business end of the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23420 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 fair enough. Still hope he’s a massive flop 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7490 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Can't see him getting much game time unless they can get rid of Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14568 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I’m of the theory that we’re probably waiting for certain moves to complete around Europe before we see action. The ripple effect of transfers like that can set loads in motion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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