Polarboy 2317 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Douglas seems relatively skeptical about this Slovenian lad. I also keep seeing journalists hinting that we've got a secret deal going that we won't find out about until it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrBass 2959 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Polarboy said: Douglas seems relatively skeptical about this Slovenian lad. I also keep seeing journalists hinting that we've got a secret deal going that we won't find out about until it happens. In other words, "we actually know fuck all about what's happening and are now running out of names to drop, so don't be surprised if Newcastle sign someone we haven't mentioned... and if they don't then the deal fell through." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 They’re out the loop tbh. Most the information they get will be from the other side of the deal now I reckon, that’s why transfers like Pope, Targett, possibly this one and the quick movement on Botman caught them by surprise. I still think we will see a lot of movement late in the window too as teams will be wanting to trim their squads down to 25 men so might start assessing who they can get decent fees for etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22587 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22587 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Sounds like Gayle is on his way to Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23413 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Sounds like Gayle is on his way to Stoke. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22587 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 No hard feelings against him tbh. Helped us get back in the prem then messed about by the club 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22587 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 This you Gloom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14560 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 He did an excellent job in getting us out the Championship as a stop-gap but it basically sums Ashley up that a stop-gap was around for about 6 seasons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8313 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 16 hours ago, RobinRobin said: I'm a few hours into this, thanks Robin. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrBass 2959 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 good job I'm the only fucker in my office at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11311 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 19/07/2022 at 15:22, Dr Gloom said: 10 goals in a shite Watford side. Can play wide or through the middle. Might be worth a punt if we don’t manage to get our preferred options. Cornet, I dunno. I heard or read somewhere that he’s quite like ASM in the sense that he blows hot and cold. Both decent defensively as attacking players go, Dennis the better finisher. Wouldn't be terrifically excited about either, but I wasn't that excited about Burn or Tartgett either so what the fuck do I know? They are definitely both an upgrade on the departing Gayle and arguably on Almiron and Wood too, which I guess is the most important part of the puzzle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23413 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, wykikitoon said: twat - i just put that on in the garden, no headphones on. neighbours knocking about next door 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23413 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Fish said: Both decent defensively as attacking players go, Dennis the better finisher. Wouldn't be terrifically excited about either, but I wasn't that excited about Burn or Tartgett either so what the fuck do I know? They are definitely both an upgrade on the departing Gayle and arguably on Almiron and Wood too, which I guess is the most important part of the puzzle. yup. feels like this is the sort of window where we might have to settle for few stepping stone players in the burn/targett mould rather than the £50-60m marquee signings. I still think we could see another player brought in though who will excite in the way bruno did 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 12373 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, OTF said: I'm a few hours into this, thanks Robin. My Your pleasure Edited July 21, 2022 by RobinRobin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KetteringMag 11 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I do worry we won't get what we need because we're fannying about making bids to our valuation, get they don't want to be taken for mugs but eventually we're going to have to overpay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11311 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, KetteringMag said: I do worry we won't get what we need because we're fannying about making bids to our valuation, get they don't want to be taken for mugs but eventually we're going to have to overpay Sure, but you exhaust lower cost options, before committing to overpaying, right? We could have got Botman for, what was it, £50m in January? Or we got him for £34m this summer. Makes sense, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18889 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 We’re apparently being quoted 35mill for Harrison, who’s a decent player iyam, but not sure if he’s 35mill decent… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetteringMag 11 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Fish said: Sure, but you exhaust lower cost options, before committing to overpaying, right? We could have got Botman for, what was it, £50m in January? Or we got him for £34m this summer. Makes sense, right? Maybe it's because leaks aren't coming out this summer but it seems we've only gone for players teams don't want to sell and then lowballed them with offers/valuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22587 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, KetteringMag said: Maybe it's because leaks aren't coming out this summer but it seems we've only gone for players teams don't want to sell and then lowballed them with offers/valuation There is also the added thing of the world cup this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11311 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: yup. feels like this is the sort of window where we might have to settle for few stepping stone players in the burn/targett mould rather than the £50-60m marquee signings. I still think we could see another player brought in though who will excite in the way bruno did Honestly, I think it's the revenue issue. If we can get some sponsorship deals through, we'll have more room to manoeuvre. We've got cash for fees, but I think the wages are the issue. Fees and wages are only allowed to make up 70% of our revenue, so if we can get some phat sponsorship deals in play we should be ok, buuuuut those deals will be scrutinised by the PL, the FA and other clubs to make sure they are at 'fair market value', which is surely a purely a subjective position. So, in the mean time, it makes sense to move on players like Gayle, Shelvey et al, who, while not on giant wages, are on way more than a 4th choice midfielder or striker should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11311 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, KetteringMag said: Maybe it's because leaks aren't coming out this summer but it seems we've only gone for players teams don't want to sell and then lowballed them with offers/valuation I think we're going after players that teams don't want to lose, and offering a reasonable amount for them. But we're getting quoted inflated prices for those players, then the agents are demanding inflated wages because they're of the belief that Newcastle United are the richest club in the world and can therefore afford it. When, in reality, due to FFP we have to box a little clever. Also, the leaks are most likely coming for the other side of the deal to either drum up interest, or force our hand. Look at Ekitike, for example, we agreed a £25.6m fee (+ add ons) for a young player with potential, he's eventually gone on loan to PSG because his agent was acting the fool. In a years time, unless he somehow breaks into the PSG first team ahead of Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, Icardi, and Kalimuendo, he'll be going back to Reims with his value decreased. Diego Carlos we were quoted £30m plus add ons, he went for £28m to Villa. We got Burn instead for £13.5m and I don't think Carlos is twice the player Burn is. Sven Botman, Lille wanted c£45m, we eventually got him for £30m If we'd spent the asking price for these players, we would be £30m worse off and the impact to FFP that that entails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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