Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Kitman 2302]

51 minutes ago, Craig said:

It's almost as though we're a properly run football club these days.

This is the issue with sections of our fanbase. They've been so used to it being run poorly and leaks / namedrops all over the place from Ashley and his cronies over the past 15 years that non-disclosure seems an alien concept. 

I trust that we will do decent business between now and when the window closes. 

Absolutely. I’d add that a lot of the noise in the press is probably coming from agents looking to talk up their clients.

[The Fish 11311]

15 minutes ago, Craig said:

Anderson is young enough that he doesn't have to be registered. I think if Paqueta comes on board then Shelvey's days are numbered. We can talk about this high wage contract he has but the reality is he'll be put out to pasture much like Clark was last season. 

Pretty sure the idea of paying his contract off won't escape their thoughts either. 

JS' contract runs out June 30 2023. If he's on £80k, say, that's <£1m. Even if we were to put him out on loan and cover his wages, that's surely worth it?

[wykikitoon 22587]

If we strength with Paqueta, Shelvey is gone.  You would send him packing over Willcok or Ciggy purely for the high wages he will be on.  I know we're not privy to his contract, but I doubt his extension trigger is on much lower wages.

[The Fish 11311]

Just now, wykikitoon said:

If we strength with Paqueta, Shelvey is gone.  You would send him packing over Willcok or Ciggy purely for the high wages he will be on.  I know we're not privy to his contract, but I doubt his extension trigger is on much lower wages.

It will be the same wages he's on now.

[RobinRobin 12373]

Given it would have presumably been set up by Penfold and Cabbage he probably gets a significant raise 

[Holden McGroin 7482]

I think Shelvey will be an able squad member as long as he keeps his performances up - which I think he will.

 

If he has options on the ball he will find the pass. It must be hard for his game when the rest of the entire team are on the edge our box. Howe has us playing more expansive now and better signings will help him.

Edited July 19, 2022 by Holden McGroin

[Alex 36586]

13 hours ago, Andrew said:

Was listening to On the Continent podcast the other day and they talked about paqueta. 

 

Apparently hes very sensitive to people he likes around the club leaving, he left Milan because Leonardo had gone and now he wants out of Lyon because juninho and bruno have gone.

 

Assuming we are in for him thats got to bode well for us over arsenal. 

That and we’re a bigger, richer, more ambitious football club  

[Howay 12496]

4 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/07/19/newcastle-worlds-richest-club-why-not-spending-money/?utm_content=football&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1658212445-1
 

 

He can't bear to admit he was wrong  

 

 

 Aye he flat out doesn’t understand FFP at even a passing level. You can’t just say “we have X to spend” and it mean total transfer fee like people did years ago, that’s why like I’ve said before the £60m he was told for FFP reasons is likely right and we’ve spent somewhere around £20m of that so far in terms of how that £60m is calculated. That’s why his budget keeps going up, he was initially saying all we had was £60m but now we can spend basically double that the fucking head case. 

Edited July 19, 2022 by Howay

[ewerk 32927]

4 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/07/19/newcastle-worlds-richest-club-why-not-spending-money/?utm_content=football&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1658212445-1
 

 

He can't bear to admit he was wrong  

 

 

 

Quote

The Big Six clubs are all paying their star players more than £200,000-a-week and Newcastle cannot compete with that. Agents and clubs, who remember the 'richest club in the world' tag, have been shocked to find Newcastle are unwilling and unable to offer those kinds of terms.

 

Again, FFP is being used as the excuse to explain why. Until the sponsorship deals come in, Newcastle have the financial muscle of clubs like Leicester, West Ham and Aston Villa. The latter two are also said to be offering far bigger wages this summer to transfer targets.

 

How to contradict yourself in one short paragraph.

[Alex 36586]

If Edwards ‘knows’ anything I would imagine he’s being fed scraps the club want in the public domain as opposed to what’s actually happening behind the scenes. He definitely has all the credentials for the useful idiot role 

[Toonpack 11229]

1 hour ago, wykikitoon said:

If we strength with Paqueta, Shelvey is gone.  You would send him packing over Willcok or Ciggy purely for the high wages he will be on.  I know we're not privy to his contract, but I doubt his extension trigger is on much lower wages.

 

We'll be keeping tabs on his performances

[Polarboy 2317]

Seen a few reports saying that Chelsea want a loan as opposed to a permanent deal for Broja, so we might steal in front of West Ham for his signing. If the choice is between Broja on loan and Diaby permanent, or Paqueta and someone like Dennis, you know what I'm not really sure what I'd prefer. On the face of it Diaby and Broja have the greater collective potential, but we may never see Broja's full potential if Chelsea wanted him back after a loan period. 

[Kid Dynamite 7560]

I wonder if we will be keeping an eye on Cornet against Burnley next week ...

[Dr Gloom 23409]

4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I wonder if we will be keeping an eye on Cornet against Burnley next week ...

 

i think i'd rather go for dennis if we're going down the relegated clubs route 

[ewerk 32927]

18 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I wonder if we will be keeping an eye on Cornet against Burnley next week ...

 

You would imagine it would be an easy deal to get done which makes me think he must be well down our list of targets.

[Gemmill 49453]

Wasn't there some patter about how Dennis was one of the ones that pretty much didn't give enough of a fuck to keep Watford up?  I'm sure I heard it mentioned on a podcast or something. 

[Kid Dynamite 7560]

24 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

i think i'd rather go for dennis if we're going down the relegated clubs route 

Cornet is more naturally a winger whereas Dennis plays as a CF.
 

Cornet also had a few season at Lyon under his belt, whilst Dennis played in a farmers league before coming to England. I reckon last season was a bit of a purple patch for him 

[Dr Gloom 23409]

1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Cornet is more naturally a winger whereas Dennis plays as a CF.
 

Cornet also had a few season at Lyon under his belt, whilst Dennis played in a farmers league before coming to England. I reckon last season was a bit of a purple patch for him 

10 goals in a shite Watford side. Can play wide or through the middle. Might be worth a punt if we don’t manage to get our preferred options.

 

Cornet, I dunno. I heard or read somewhere that he’s quite like ASM in the sense that he blows hot and cold. 

[Howay 12496]

37 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

You would imagine it would be an easy deal to get done which makes me think he must be well down our list of targets.

Aye I think we likely have a few like that lined up, where we will keep trying until late to land our higher up targets but then start triggering clauses. Kind of like Wood was except a little less of a panic as they have had more time to select players that are quick buys. 

[thebrokendoll 10191]

8 minutes ago, Howay said:

Aye I think we likely have a few like that lined up, where we will keep trying until late to land our higher up targets but then start triggering clauses. Kind of like Wood was except a little less of a panic as they have had more time to select players that are quick buys. 

 

please, no more wood buys!

[Kid Dynamite 7560]

There's a Diaby quote floating around with him saying he's decided to stay at Leverkusen. No idea if it's genuine.

[Gemmill 49453]

I'd given up on Diaby ages ago so not that fussed about this. Seemed like the price was always gonna be beyond us. 

[Polarboy 2317]

18 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

There's a Diaby quote floating around with him saying he's decided to stay at Leverkusen. No idea if it's genuine.

 

Even if the quote about him supposedly deciding to stay in Germany is true, it still doesn't mean he wouldn't leave if an offer comes in. Unless he wanted to actively agitate to leave there's no up side for him to say he wants to leave at this stage, even if again he's open to it. Leverkusen have already said they'd have to consider a big offer, so he could just be leaving it in his clubs hands, so if he does leave he's less likely to get any bad PR. 

Edited July 19, 2022 by Polarboy

[thebrokendoll 10191]

18 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

I'd given up on Diaby ages ago so not that fussed about this. Seemed like the price was always gonna be beyond us. 

 

aye.

we had the poorest billionaire in the world owning us.

now we've got the poorest richest country on the planet at the helm.

 

 

Edited July 19, 2022 by thebrokendoll

[Polarboy 2317]

Tuchel has just been quoted as saying that he doesn't expect Broja to leave. It would be pretty funny if West Ham missed out on all their targets for a striker yet again. Looks like Lingard is going to them, but they've been trying to sign a striker since Haller left. Of course if will only be truly amusing if we actually do something up front, and they don't get Scamacca, which they still might do. Scamacca doesn't really fit the profile of what we're looking for, but it would still be annoying if he signs for West Ham and starts banging the goals in. 

Edited July 19, 2022 by Polarboy