wykikitoon 19980 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Trust the process. There's still 6 weeks to go and the owners aren't stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19980 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Rangers agree £4m deal to sign Ben Davies from Liverpool - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62200726 This is the player that the media wanked over and said Klopp got a steal and would do magic to because he's a genius manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, wykikitoon said: Trust the process. There's still 6 weeks to go and the owners aren't stupid This is what I think too. I don’t think anybody in the press has the inside track on what’s going on behind the scenes; the owners and management know we are short in attack and Ive no doubt they will address it. The reality is that we are shopping in the high end stores now not Ashleys poundland….so unless the player or the club want a transfer (like pouty Hugo), we will have to prise targets away from unwilling sellers. That process often goes down to deadline day for a number of reasons (and theres also the matter of moving the deadwood on). I doubt its a budgetary issue so much as an availability issue. Edited July 17, 2022 by Kitman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2963 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Yep. Agreed. I'd be surprised if the staff and owners bugger up the transfer window. The pant wetters are showing themselves once again. They're out, damp, and proud! Paper talk is going to continue since us failing to sign players is (almost as big of a story) for other teams supporters as it would be for us if we signed someone. Let's be honest for some rival supporters our summer transfer news is more interesting than their entire existence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 872 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Man City had to walk away from Kane. We are nowhere near that stage, yet, but it is better to be walking away from top quality players rather than walking away from loan deals for Choudary. To think we have people upset after we have Botman, Bruno and Trippier in the space of 2 windows is crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 What happened to the Gabriel Barbosa links? I know he failed in Europe previously but given his record in recent years he's worth another shot. Loan fee with an option to buy? Leaving money for a RW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Leeds want £35 million for Harrison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11158 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Didn't look that good against Villa in Brisbane while I was watching at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19980 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Was speaking to my brother about him yesterday, he said he would laugh his tits off at £35m. He said even £20m would be great business by Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) I know it's said tongue in cheek, but I don't think it's bedwetting to critique our transfer policy. It doesn't mean you aren't happy with the owners or that you want Ashley back. I'm not sure it's healthy to put the club on such a pedestal that everyone connected is infallible and can't be questioned about anything. We had a cracking 2nd half to last season and a great transfer window. Burn, Trippier and Targett massively improved the defence. Bruno and Joelinton massively improved the midfield. The clear deficit in the squad was with the front 3. Wilson is injury prone. Wood is hopeless and Murphy/Almiron/ASM/Fraser provide little in the way of goals or assists. 2 1/2 weeks away from the start of the new season and we've added a CB and a GK to last seasons squad. We seem to have wasted a lot of time looking at Diaby, Nunez, Isak etc. just hoping their clubs will half their asking prices. Time to start looking at at people we can afford... Edited July 18, 2022 by Kid Dynamite 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11158 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Was speaking to my brother about him yesterday, he said he would laugh his tits off at £35m. He said even £20m would be great business by Leeds. I certainly think that it would represent a PIF premium if we paid that. Surely there must be someone left field who is a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, RobinRobin said: I certainly think that it would represent a PIF premium if we paid that. Surely there must be someone left field who is a better option. PIF/English player premium. I think Harrison would be a success here. Strikes me as a grafter without too much of an ego. In the mould of a Burn, Targett, Richie. 18 goals from midfield in 2 seasons is pretty much what our entire midfield had managed in the same period 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19980 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: I know it's said tongue in cheek, but I don't think it's bedwetting to critique our transfer policy. It doesn't mean you aren't happy with the owners or that you want Ashley back. I'm not sure it's healthy to put the club on such a pedestal that everyone connected is infallible and can't be questioned about anything. We had a cracking 2nd half to last season and a great transfer window. Burn, Trippier and Targett massively improved the defence. Bruno and Joelinton massively improved the midfield. The clear deficit in the squad was with the front 3. Wilson is injury prone. Wood is hopeless and Murphy/Almiron/ASM/Fraser provide little in the way of goals or assists. 2 1/2 weeks away from the start of the new season and we've added a CB and a GK to last seasons squad. We seem to have wasted a lot of time looking at Diaby, Nunez, Isak etc. just hoping their clubs will half their asking prices. Time to start looking at at people we can afford... Totally agree with this. However since ashworth has come in the news out of the club has certainly been limited and it's gone to CN basically becoming an ITK. So with regards to us wasting time on certain players unless we hear that from the club then I wouldn't assume we just had them in our sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: I know it's said tongue in cheek, but I don't think it's bedwetting to critique our transfer policy. It doesn't mean you aren't happy with the owners or that you want Ashley back. I'm not sure it's healthy to put the club on such a pedestal that everyone connected is infallible and can't be questioned about anything. We had a cracking 2nd half to last season and a great transfer window. Burn, Trippier and Targett massively improved the defence. Bruno and Joelinton massively improved the midfield. The clear deficit in the squad was with the front 3. Wilson is injury prone. Wood is hopeless and Murphy/Almiron/ASM/Fraser provide little in the way of goals or assists. 2 1/2 weeks away from the start of the new season and we've added a CB and a GK to last seasons squad. We seem to have wasted a lot of time looking at Diaby, Nunez, Isak etc. just hoping their clubs will half their asking prices. Time to start looking at at people we can afford... Absolutely we should criticise their mistakes and missteps, but with 6 weeks left in the window, it'd be too harsh to judge this window negatively. Especially as we've signed a good left back, an upgrade on our first choice 'keeper and one of the most exciting young CBs in Europe. There will be a little naivety, e.g. Ekitike He wasn't massively keen on the move in January, plus Reims didn't want to sell. I don't think I would have spent as much time trying to agree terms with him, I'd probably have called off the pursuit earlier. I think Ashworth and now Eales will provide better guidance because of their experience. There's 6 weeks to go, plenty of time to bring in someone we've been linked with, but also available capital to take advantage of the carnage that tends to happen at the end of the window. I fully expect us to sign 2 players who ply their trade at the business end of the pitch. It might be a winger and an attacking midfielder, or it might be a striker and another. Either way I can't imagine we're done, not by a long stretch. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 we don't want to get taken for mugs, but the difficulty with leaving it too late is you might end up paying more because the selling clubs know you're desperate. not an easy balancing act to get right. agree with fish that we will get two more signings in. whether they're the players we really want, or we overpay remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: we don't want to get taken for mugs, but the difficulty with leaving it too late is you might end up paying more because the selling clubs know you're desperate. not an easy balancing act to get right. agree with fish that we will get two more signings in. whether they're the players we really want, or we overpay remains to be seen. We'll probably overpay but, if the striker is 'worth' £40m to the market as a whole, and we end up paying £60m, that's fine. It's not like we're paying £6m for Riviere when he's worth 60p, the £40m winger will likely be much better than whatever we've got, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 The reality is we're unlikely to know, and neither are the hacks, about what is truly going on behind the scenes. I imagine they're playing their cards very close to their chest - Targett and Botman were names socialised given one was on loan for half a season and the other was clearly a target in January (pre-Ashworth). The signing of Pope by contrast came pretty much out of the blue. I'd expect that's more indicative of our style of approach going forward. As Fish said, there's 6 weeks to go before the window shuts. If by that time we haven't strengthened our front line then, by all means, be critical. Now is not the time to be getting frustrated - not yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30369 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Broja in talks with West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polarboy 2311 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Dennis and Paqueta would be the two I'd currently pick given our apparent failure on other targets. Both Cornet and Dennis can play across a front three, but I think Dennis is more comfortable playing centre forward. Again Dennis would kill two birds with one stone being able to play wide and centrally, and we clearly do need a creative player in midfield alongside Bruno and Joe, with Paqueta being ideal. Dennis may only cost 20m maybe 25m. We keep hearing we only have a certain amount to spend because of FFP, who knows what the truth is, but for two quality players we could perhaps try and structure the payments for one or both. Of course given that Watford are in the Championship we could perhaps give them someone like a Murphy, Manquillo, Ritchie or Fernandez in part exchange. All four would do a job for a Championship side. With regard to Arsenal and Paqueta I think it's pretty unlikely that they'd go after him after spending so much on this Fabio Viera lad who's also an attacking mid. Edited July 18, 2022 by Polarboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Newcastle United: Ben Jacobs drops interesting Lucas Paqueta transfer claim | thisisfutbol.com No idea how reliable this Ben Jacobs lad is but he's basically echoing the other report in regard to Lyon having lowered their demands in terms of a fee. He goes on to say that we along with other clubs are talking to his agent to see what it would take to sign him. If any of the aforementioned is true you would like to think we have an advantage given he and Bruno's connection. Edited July 18, 2022 by Polarboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: If there’s any truth to this then we have to be all in for him tbh. He’d add so much to our attack, then we can go and bring in options up front lower down our list than Diaby and we’d be set up very strong going into the season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I just struggle to see how we fit Bruno, Joelinton, Shelvey, Willock, Elliot, Longstaff and Paqueta into the same squad. Particularly when we can't hit a barn door up front atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4721 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Was listening to On the Continent podcast the other day and they talked about paqueta. Apparently hes very sensitive to people he likes around the club leaving, he left Milan because Leonardo had gone and now he wants out of Lyon because juninho and bruno have gone. Assuming we are in for him thats got to bode well for us over arsenal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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