Gemmill 49445 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: but why would they tell some random bullshit artist, who lives in ireland? There are fully signed up members of the Cult of Casey. Maybe their god demanded an offering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Assuming chicken pedo is incorrect with regard to our remaining budget, should we get Isak and someone like Asensio, it would represent a quantum leap in the quality of options for our forward line. I would assume buying both Isak and Diaby in one window would be prohibitively expensive, so perhaps that's why Asensio's name has been floating about recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22581 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Polarboy said: Assuming chicken pedo is incorrect with regard to our remaining budget, should we get Isak and someone like Asensio, it would represent a quantum leap in the quality of options for our forward line. I would assume buying both Isak and Diaby in one window would be prohibitively expensive, so perhaps that's why Asensio's name has been floating about recently. Get them both and what we have signed already and IMO that's a banging transfer window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Get them both and what we have signed already and IMO that's a banging transfer window. If I'm being extremely picky it would be nice to also get either a def mid specialist or an attacking mid, so perhaps something will turn up in the loan market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22581 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Polarboy said: If I'm being extremely picky it would be nice to also get either a def mid specialist or an attacking mid, so perhaps something will turn up in the loan market. That would be nice then I would be correct with my Transfer number prediction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11309 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Polarboy said: Assuming chicken pedo is incorrect with regard to our remaining budget, should we get Isak and someone like Asensio, it would represent a quantum leap in the quality of options for our forward line. I would assume buying both Isak and Diaby in one window would be prohibitively expensive, so perhaps that's why Asensio's name has been floating about recently. I think if players like Diaby and Isak are interested and available for fair market value in the same window we should buy them both. We can afford it. Give them both 4-5yr deals and start bringing in that sweet sweet sponsorship dinero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Fish said: I think if players like Diaby and Isak are interested and available for fair market value in the same window we should buy them both. We can afford it. Give them both 4-5yr deals and start bringing in that sweet sweet sponsorship dinero I'm not privy to the intricacies of FFP, but obviously it would be nice to get both. Having said that if getting both would push us dangerously close to breaking FFP rules I'd rather we took the slow and steady approach to building our squad. It's not as if the football authorities are going to be doing us any favours should we even get close to breaking any spending rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22581 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Polarboy said: I'm not privy to the intricacies of FFP, but obviously it would be nice to get both. Having said that if getting both would push us dangerously close to breaking FFP rules I'd rather we took the slow and steady approach to building our squad. It's not as if the football authorities are going to be doing us any favours should we even get close to breaking any spending rules. IIRC We aren't close to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11309 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Polarboy said: I'm not privy to the intricacies of FFP, but obviously it would be nice to get both. Having said that if getting both would push us dangerously close to breaking FFP rules I'd rather we took the slow and steady approach to building our squad. It's not as if the football authorities are going to be doing us any favours should we even get close to breaking any spending rules. I've shown elsewhere that FFP for the PL aren't going to slow us down much. We could theoretically spend hundreds of millions. Like you say though, it does make sense to keep some of that wiggle room available. My point is just that, Isak and Diaby are two excellent players, we could afford to get them both this window without falling foul of FFP and maintaining some wiggle room for January. However, if we hold off, there's no guarantee that they'd be available/interested in January, or next summer. And you run the risk of there not being a better alternative available at that time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36278 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 'Wriggle' Dave, not 'wiggle'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23403 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: That would be nice then I would be correct with my Transfer number prediction TT's very own Sean Casey strikes again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: you reckon isak is fair value at 50 mil though? seems excessive It's somewhat of a risk at that price, but we'd be paying for potential given his age and how highly rated he is. There's people in football who seriously compare Isak to his Swedish compatriot Ibrahimovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7560 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 He's got an awful lot of games and goals under his belt for a 22 year old. Could be 6 or 7 years off his peak yet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32916 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Quote Newcastle will try to thrash out a buy-now-pay-later deal, with a relatively small down payment this summer and another large instalment in 12 months time. That could see a £50m-plus fee with a 50-50 split, which would mean the Magpies only had to find a far more manageable £30m now. I don’t understand this. It’s makes no difference to FFP and is pocket change to the Saudis. I only hope it’s a negotiating tactic to plead poverty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego21 2155 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) This year Isak has been tremendously bad. But I think he has the potential to be a great player. He is very good at footwork, he is very intelligent, he has very good actions. However, I have my doubts that he can carry the weight of the goal alone. He misses a lot of very clear chances. Instead, he is still 22 years old and he can still improve that facet. I don't think that today he is a 50 million player. If we could get it out for 30 I would see it as more suitable. Isak is not my favorite for us because the style, but I admit that he would not be bad, that he could play very well in pairs with Wilson, although it would raise doubts if he played alone up front (which I imagine is what Howe would look for). Real Sociedad is a team that does not let its players go easy. Edited July 12, 2022 by Diego21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Diego21 said: This year Isak has been tremendously bad. But I think he has the potential to be a great player. He is very good at footwork, he is very intelligent, he has very good actions. However, I have my doubts that he can carry the weight of the goal alone. He misses a lot of very clear chances. Instead, he is still 22 years old and he can still improve that facet. I don't think that today he is a 50 million player. If we could get it out for 30 I would see it as more suitable. Isak is not my favorite for us because the style, but I admit that he would not be bad, that he could play very well in pairs with Wilson, although it would raise doubts if he played alone up front (which I imagine is what Howe would look for). Real Sociedad is a team that does not let its players go easy. I've seen a few people say he can play anywhere along the front three, so perhaps he could mostly be played wide for a season or two until he matured enough in order to play centrally. Having said that I've looked at his stats and he's literally only played on the left wing once, and the same for the right. I've not seen him play for Sweden so perhaps he's played a number of positions for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23403 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Diego21 said: This year Isak has been tremendously bad. But I think he has the potential to be a great player. He is very good at footwork, he is very intelligent, he has very good actions. However, I have my doubts that he can carry the weight of the goal alone. He misses a lot of very clear chances. Instead, he is still 22 years old and he can still improve that facet. I don't think that today he is a 50 million player. If we could get it out for 30 I would see it as more suitable. Isak is not my favorite for us because the style, but I admit that he would not be bad, that he could play very well in pairs with Wilson, although it would raise doubts if he played alone up front (which I imagine is what Howe would look for). Real Sociedad is a team that does not let its players go easy. couldn't he cover the wide positions too, Diego? i was reading somewhere that they see him in the same mould as ekitike - young, big potential and able to cover the three forward positions - lone striker and on either flank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23403 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 JINX! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego21 2155 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 @Polarboy @Dr Gloom I don't think he can play all three attacking positions. I think he is a player who can very well drop to the wing to download the game (preferably to the left wing), but I don't see him as an attacker out there, as in his day, let's say, it could be Henry. I can't compare him to Ekitike because I've never seen the Frenchman play. In my opinion, the best situation for Isak would be to be a solo player up front, sending long balls and waiting for others to arrive from the second row. That is to say, I think he is a player that we could have taken advantage of very well between 2017 and 2021, but now with Howe we may be going to play something else. If we play Isak alone up front, he could help other players with good arrival, but surely we would need guys like Joelinton, St Maximin, Bruno, Willock or the player who is going to play on the right wing to put up a good number of goals. It is true that Isak scored many goals in a bad team like Willem II, but the truth is that except for that year, he has not been a good finisher. If he ends up improving in that aspect, I do think he would be a very good signing even for 50M 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7560 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 We might have had a lucky escape here mind 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23403 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Leaning back striking the ball like a 6 year old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7560 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Nice to have it confirmed we are actually in talks about a striker though. It all went a bit quiet when the Ekitike deal died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polarboy 2317 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 How reliable is Galetti? I hear his name mentioned quite a bit, but I've never paid enough attention to gauge how full of shit or not he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23403 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Polarboy said: How reliable is Galetti? I hear his name mentioned quite a bit, but I've never paid enough attention to gauge how full of shit or not he is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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