Diego21 2155 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 I couldn't like Ziyech less. I will not question his soccer skills (although I will question his regularity), but he is a player who has had serious problems (and sometimes nonsense) in all the teams he has been in and with all technicians. He refused to play for Feyenoord early in his career because they didn't want to give him the number 10 shirt (occupied by another player). Twente took away his captain's band due to his lack of discipline. He asked to be transferred from Twente to another team when the coach told him that he had to defend too, not just attack. In a press conference he said about his teammates that "They were bad and inexperienced and they didn't have the same level. I get bored just being able to pass the ball to two or three." When the Netherlands called him up, on the first day of concentration he argued and insulted the coach Van Basten (which is why the Netherlands did not call him again and declared himself eligible for Morocco). In his penultimate year at Ajax, he argued with the board, he was suspended from employment and salary and the club withdrew his number '10' shirt because they considered him unworthy to wear that number. Today, he is away from the Moroccan team and for many months he has not been with the team and he will not do so with this coach. A gem. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8312 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Diego21 said: I couldn't like Ziyech less. I will not question his soccer skills (although I will question his regularity), but he is a player who has had serious problems (and sometimes nonsense) in all the teams he has been in and with all technicians. He refused to play for Feyenoord early in his career because they didn't want to give him the number 10 shirt (occupied by another player). Twente took away his captain's band due to his lack of discipline. He asked to be transferred from Twente to another team when the coach told him that he had to defend too, not just attack. In a press conference he said about his teammates that "They were bad and inexperienced and they didn't have the same level. I get bored just being able to pass the ball to two or three." When the Netherlands called him up, on the first day of concentration he argued and insulted the coach Van Basten (which is why the Netherlands did not call him again and declared himself eligible for Morocco). In his penultimate year at Ajax, he argued with the board, he was suspended from employment and salary and the club withdrew his number '10' shirt because they considered him unworthy to wear that number. Today, he is away from the Moroccan team and for many months he has not been with the team and he will not do so with this coach. A gem. Even more of a prick off the pitch than on it, which is quite the achievement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston 41 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego21 2155 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Winston said: ??? If is to a lower ranked team in England I bet is Arsenal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6790 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Winston said: ??? Everton I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6790 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 BTW am I the only one who doesn’t really get Jesus’s move to Arsenal, from his perspective? There’s no guarantee Haaland will hit the ground running at Man City and I just don’t see it as the most positive move for him ahead of the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23403 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Only scored six goals or something at Southampton. One for the future I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Only scored six goals or something at Southampton. One for the future I suppose In fairness he only had 22 starts, and the rest of his apps were 15 minutes here, 20 minutes there. Also, listening to some Southampton fans talking it's apparent that in the second half of the season their team in general were creating far fewer chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego21 2155 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Craig said: BTW am I the only one who doesn’t really get Jesus’s move to Arsenal, from his perspective? There’s no guarantee Haaland will hit the ground running at Man City and I just don’t see it as the most positive move for him ahead of the World Cup. His departure seems fine to me. I think that Haaland is going to play and that normally he does it very well, but what's more, if Álvarez stays and doesn't go out on loan, he's a striker completely in the style that Guardiola likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14560 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) Broja seems like he has everything you’d want out of a young striker, even if his goal record wasn’t great last year. Got all the physical side of the game. He’s definitely got massive potential IMO. He’ll love it if we’re going to be playing from the front. Edited July 2, 2022 by Ayatollah Hermione 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polarboy 2317 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) Tielemans, Broja, Diaby would be a nice end to the window. Not sure about Tielemans like. His talent isn't in question of course, but he seemed to be agitating to leave Leicester, most likely because he thought that he was better than them, which in fairness you can't really argue, at least on last season's showing from them. If the aforementioned is the case then he likely wouldn't see us as anything more than a sideways move, so if he did come it would likely be mostly for the money. Plus I don't see how we could afford Tielemans plus a striker and wide right forward/winger. Perhaps if we could get Broja on loan, which Chelsea might be willing to do, and then structure the payments for Diaby and Tielemans. Edited July 2, 2022 by Polarboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22580 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Craig said: BTW am I the only one who doesn’t really get Jesus’s move to Arsenal, from his perspective? There’s no guarantee Haaland will hit the ground running at Man City and I just don’t see it as the most positive move for him ahead of the World Cup. I have a feeling that Haaland may struggle tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23403 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Craig said: Simple, you persuade him he starts with Shelvey on the bench. Shouldn’t take that much convincing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) I never get it when people say that, it was similar when Bruno come in and journalists would say it - drop any of them ffs. Shelvey isn’t a good player because he doesn’t give a fuck, he turns up for 3 games max per season, a Joe, Tielemans, and Bruno midfield would be brilliant. Compare Tielemans work rate, defensive ability and movement on and off the ball to Shelvey and it’s a total no brainer ffs. Edited July 2, 2022 by Howay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Just read that Tielemans is in the last 12 months of his contract, so we could possibly get him for closer to 30m than 50m or over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23403 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Just now, Polarboy said: Just read that Tielemans is in the last 12 months of his contract, so we could possibly get him for closer to 30m than 50m or over. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14560 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Tielemans would be an unbelievable signing. Him and Bruno would run entire games by themselves. And Willock off the bench when one is tired and can be more direct is a quality option 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32909 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I have a feeling that Haaland may struggle tbh. £50 says he scores 30+ in all competitions. Edited July 2, 2022 by ewerk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14560 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Wykiki just WANTS Haaland to fail, he doesn’t think that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Target 'will sign' for Arsenal if fee agreed, 'genuine' Man Utd interest, while Newcastle 'could enter' - Football365 Supposedly Arsenal have been working on the deal for a year, and have already agreed personal terms with Tielemans, so if they put a bid that's acceptable to Leicester in, then he'll almost certainly sign for them. So as it stands other teams interest in him hinges on whether or not Arsenal decide to pull the trigger on a concrete bid. There's also conflicting reports as to whether Arsenal are still interested, or have taken a step back from the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22580 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 I just feel he's not going to be the out and out striker that everyone is making out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32909 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I just feel he's not going to be the out and out striker that everyone is making out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22580 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 How about Salah v Haaland in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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