wykikitoon 23351 Posted Tuesday at 17:45 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:45 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: Why would they leave if they finish in the champions league spots though? It’s a bit like us with Isak. They won’t have to get rid of any of them unless the players agitate for a move and they can demand stupid money in that case. Aren't they supposed to flying close to PSR again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6997 Posted Wednesday at 07:23 Share Posted Wednesday at 07:23 14 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Why would they leave if they finish in the champions league spots though? It’s a bit like us with Isak. They won’t have to get rid of any of them unless the players agitate for a move and they can demand stupid money in that case. I think the last point is where the challenge lies. Forest have been close to the wire in terms of PSR (crossed it last season) so it wouldn't at all surprise me if clubs with deep pockets who are currently not performing come in with daft offers to tempt them. Leicester won the league in 2016 but key players of that squad moved on in the summer - most notably Kante. Forest will have similar challenges I don't doubt. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23966 Posted Wednesday at 07:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 07:58 It’s a bag of shite if that is the case: best finish in generations and forced to sell. Bit like Villa with Douglas Luiz, I suppose 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6997 Posted Wednesday at 08:10 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:10 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: It’s a bag of shite if that is the case: best finish in generations and forced to sell. Bit like Villa with Douglas Luiz, I suppose Yeah but isn't that the fundamental issue with football finance and PSR as a whole? The system is setup to protect those sat at the financial top table and fuck over anyone who dares to try and reach those heights. None of us want another Chelsea-like situation, but the mechanism as it is needs overhaul. It's far too restrictive. The reward for on-field success is financial vultures coveting your talent and offering to fill your bank account to keep you from losing sleep over PSR. Completely wrong for me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23966 Posted Wednesday at 08:35 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:35 20 minutes ago, Craig said: Yeah but isn't that the fundamental issue with football finance and PSR as a whole? The system is setup to protect those sat at the financial top table and fuck over anyone who dares to try and reach those heights. None of us want another Chelsea-like situation, but the mechanism as it is needs overhaul. It's far too restrictive. The reward for on-field success is financial vultures coveting your talent and offering to fill your bank account to keep you from losing sleep over PSR. Completely wrong for me. yeah, the system isn’t fit for purpose. And the £110m loss figure - or what ever it is - hasn’t been adjusted for inflation for years either. It’s a completely arbitrary line in the sand designed to protect the cartel. On the plus side it has backfired to an extent by constraining spending at all clubs - other than Chelsea, who continue to brazenly flout the rules with their circular finance - which means that hopefully no cunt can afford Isak. Its also put more of a focus on good coaching and recruitment and made for a more interesting league this season. So ffp rules in theory aren’t bad, but the way they’re implemented is bullshit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1878 Posted Wednesday at 08:37 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:37 Playing devil's advocate, surely theory latest figures would mean that Chelsea could offer isak 300k a week and pay us £150m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19357 Posted Wednesday at 08:40 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:40 Last summer 9 clubs voted to keep the loophole Chelsea have continued to exploit https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-profit-womens-team-psr-financial-results-b2725072.html# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23966 Posted Wednesday at 08:40 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:40 2 minutes ago, RobElliott said: Playing devil's advocate, surely theory latest figures would mean that Chelsea could offer isak 300k a week and pay us £150m? just got to finish above them in the league, and hopefully push them out of the CL places in the process. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 37187 Posted Wednesday at 08:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 08:56 As pissed off as the Chelsea cheating makes me I just hope they've fucked themselves in the long run as they've closed all avenues of get out of jail free cards going forward. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51287 Posted Wednesday at 09:14 Share Posted Wednesday at 09:14 You can be sure that all of this spending has not been done with an eye on them facing to make CL. If they can be kept out of it for a couple of years, they'll really start to have problems. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4301 Posted Wednesday at 18:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:07 8 hours ago, Gemmill said: You can be sure that all of this spending has not been done with an eye on them facing to make CL. If they can be kept out of it for a couple of years, they'll really start to have problems. They are going to have problems anyway, they are making a huge actual loss on their initial investment and they are owned by hedge funds who need profit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37326 Posted Wednesday at 18:41 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:41 10 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: It’s a bag of shite if that is the case: best finish in generations and forced to sell. Bit like Villa with Douglas Luiz, I suppose That’s what PSR is designed to do. Can’t have these interlopers ruining it for the big boys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2441 Posted Wednesday at 21:19 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:19 11 hours ago, Gemmill said: You can be sure that all of this spending has not been done with an eye on them facing to make CL. If they can be kept out of it for a couple of years, they'll really start to have problems. Yes. I think their model assumes they can move on senior players on long term contracts like Mudryk for decent fees, and make a fat profit on some of the junior players they've been stockpiling. If they can't do that and there's no CL football, they'll have a huge wage bill, a bloated and disaffected squad, and not enough income to cover their losses. Here's hoping 🤞 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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