Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Dr Gloom 22789]

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[Gemmill 47717]

It was YOU that initially floated the idea of them dropping out of the calculation, you filthy bogtrotter. So don't you DARE come at me about mentioning that. 

[ewerk 31750]

Just now, Gemmill said:

It was YOU that initially floated the idea of them dropping out of the calculation, you filthy bogtrotter. So don't you DARE come at me about mentioning that. 

 

I did nothing of the sort, you filthy liar. What I said was that we made massive losses in 22/23 and those will drop out of the calculation. I understand you take everything I say as gospel but that only works if you have the comprehension skills to understand the gifts I'm giving you. Did you get your ACA at the bottom of a box of Rice Krispies?

[Gemmill 47717]

I got it by passing the exams that YOU COULDN'T HACK. Now get back to those pigs! 

[ewerk 31750]

That's a timely reminder not to throw pearls before swine.

[wykikitoon 21749]

Wish he would look at the camera rather than the display the mong.

[ewerk 31750]

Just now, wykikitoon said:

Wish he would look at the camera rather than the display the mong.

 

You still on about Harvey Price?

[The Fish 11127]

4 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

That post is about as valid/accurate as your doorframe measurements. 

 

Point one:

"a problem for the summer" to replace our THIRD (not 4th/5th) choice CB when we can avoid that expense entirely because (checks notes) we already own the fucker.

Next season CB's will likely be: New RCB (with pace) back-up Schar (if re-signs) LCB Botman, back-up Burn, Kelly gives a 3rd Option for both in a Krafth (who's a FB in reality) like way.

 

*Kelly can also cover LB in emergency. (anyone who mentions Tino in the LB cover conversation needs a paracetamol or 10)

Kelly is not our 3rd choice Centreback. 

Botman, Schar, Burn. So he's 4th at best.

 

You then go on to list what next season situation will be, pushing your boy Kelly further down the pecking order. Botman, Burn, New RCB, Schar, and then Kelly. Unless of course he's usurped by one of the young CBs we've been accumulating for the youth team. 

 

So far, you're arguing that we keep a hold of our 4th, or 5th choice centreback. We'd get no money for Schar or Burn. We definitely don't want to lose Botman. So Kelly is our most saleable asset in an area of the pitch where we actually have depth.

 

Put that up your shitter and fluff it.

4 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

 

Point two:

Pace - In 22/23 Opta monitored all players and of ALL Prem defenders Kelly was top 10 (8th fastest of all CB/FB's), he's marginally slower than Gordon by about 1kmh. Compared to our other defenders he's Usain fucking Bolt.

 

Now find me an up to date and accurate reading of his speed. If it's not nigh on as fast as Gordon I think it's fair to say he doesn't have "Pace to burn".

 

4 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

Point Three: 

Costs/PSR - So the 5 players mentioned cost us agent fee's of £18.8 mill, that's an average of £3.75 mill, you completely ignore any signing-on fee (which I mentioned) which lets say is 10% of his value, that's around another £1.5 Million (he's valued at €18 mill on transfermarkt) so we have costs associated with signing him of  £5.25 Million, which is just a tad closer to £6 million that "pure profit" is.

 

There is a LOT of assumption being passed off as fact in this post.

You're assuming that the fees grow steadily with the value of the player, which isn't necessarily true. Kelly isn't a young lad with loads of potential, like Tino or Hall. He's not an established Champions League player like Tonali. He's not a goal scoring attacking midfielder valued at around £40m. 

 

He's Lloyd Kelly, a middling 26yr old Centre Back, on a free, from Bournemouth. 

 

4 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

Point Four:

"Eddie might like the lad, he may think he's a super cool fun dude" - yeah that's nailed Eddie's motivation/methods in squad building. Christ! it's preposterous, and not a little disrespectful to Mr Howe. 

Kelly being a solid pro is not a good enough reason to keep him around when we can get c£10m for him. I wasn't disrespecting Eddie Howe, I was disrespecting you.

 

4 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

"but the lad is fundamentally not a top 6 centre back" - at last, a correct assertion, no he's not a starting level top 6 defender BUT we are years away from having starting level like for like substitute/second choice players on the bench.

 

"he's exactly the type of player we need to be moving on" - in time yes, but not just now. He's 26 he's got years in him (unlike the other CB's), he covers two squad places with one body, ideally we'll keep him a couple of years and some kid will develop to replace him/those ahead of him.

 

He's Jack Colback, Jamall Lascelles, Isaac Hayden. He's not good enough for where we are, let alone where we're aiming to be. He's exactly the kind of player who, if you saw he was starting against Bournemouth you'd suddenly be very concerned. If we can sell him now for £10m, that is the most we're ever going to get for him. And we can bring in a warm body to replace him for less. Maybe a warm body who has the potential to push for a start. 

 

4 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

Going by the comments on here some are obviously so concerned about growing our commercial income they're hoping to make our CB's attractive for sponsorship by fucking SAGA.

 

Have you not been paying attention? Growing the business side of the club is the only way we can compete on the football side of the club. Selling Kelly makes good business sense and also good football sense.

 

4 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

In the summer we need at minimum: GK, RCB, RW, CF (I suspect if the fucker gets fit and stays that way for back end of the season, they may extend Wilson and continue to develop Osula), back up RB, given Tino's a kid that'll probably be another Kelly type given you are unlikely to entice another Tino level kid to play second fiddle. We don't need to do same for Hall because we have Targett (although probably gone) Burn (oil tanker at FB) and (checks notes) Kelly. That's one hell of a lot of needs.

 

Club seems fixated on Trafford, so we'll possibly seem him join.

I agree we need a RCB, and a RW as soon as possible.

I agree that Wilson will likely get an extension and I hope Osula improves. So CF isn't a priority for the summer, but lets just say it is.

Back up RB will likely be a Krafth/Kelly type player, but it's a want not a need, but again lets say that it is. 

 

At most that's 5 players.

 

Since the takeover we've signed 5-6 players each season. Hell, this summer just gone we signed 4 already (not counting Hall) and we were all pretty nonplussed.

 

So in this window, say we sign a goalkeeper, or the backup RB, or maybe even the RW or Centreback we need. That one or more of the 5 areas you insist are priorities. 

 

 

4 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

We have plenty of needs, we don't need to create another one.

 

Finally Diego's post - least said the better, he had patently just woken up from his siesta with a monster hangover having been hammering that sangria since dawn.

 

Diego knows his onions. 

I know my shit.

 

 

[Toonpack 10597]

You know shit, that's for sure.

 

So Schar is ahead of Kelly for LCB is he ??

 

I'll destroy the rest of your post later.

[Dr Gloom 22789]

Fish has pulled out the essay-length multi quote hyper post 

 

[ewerk 31750]

Aye, good effort Fish. Pity no one is going to bother reading it.

[Dr Gloom 22789]

49 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Aye, good effort Fish. Pity no one is going to bother reading it.

[Alex 35998]

16 hours ago, Andrew said:

You can't be playing a Libero with a sweeper keeper.

 

Fucking idiot.

[Howmanheyman 34775]

1 hour ago, ewerk said:

Aye, good effort Fish. Pity no one is going to bother reading it.

 

The Cassandra of TT. 

[Holden McGroin 7048]

1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said:

Fish has pulled out the essay-length multi quote hyper post 

 

I ain’t reading that. That’s for sure.

[Toonpack 10597]

1 hour ago, ewerk said:

Aye, good effort Fish. Pity no one is going to bother reading it.

 

It's bollocks, so no need to waste their time tbh.

[Optimistic Nut 309]

Go to Burnley now and offer them £10-15m plus Pope. 

[OTF 7903]

8 hours ago, Gemmill said:

OK so it sounds like Howe's lying then. 

#HoweOut? Time for another thread @LongTimeAdmirer?