Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Ayatollah Hermione 14304]

I’m just hoping that we see Sanusi promoted to the bench instead of Howe putting two keepers on there 

[Holden McGroin 7048]

6 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

We WERE Friends.

WERE

 

 

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I love Wykiki. His bitching reminds me of my lass. 

[wykikitoon 21749]

1 minute ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

I’m just hoping that we see Sanusi promoted to the bench instead of Howe putting two keepers on there 

It's always made me wonder why he has never done this.  Even if they have no chance of getting on, it will give them confidence and a lift.  Maybe Howe thinks having senior players like Gillespie are more worthwhile for the other lads.  I.e terms of support etc.

[Toonpack 10597]

1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said:

It’s possible Kelly is seen as Burns natural successor and Lascelles probably won’t get another year on his contract.  Only Big Mitch knows this though but as we were after Tosin and Guehi then I think further additions will come in a CB in the future. 

I think Kelly is seen as cover for LCB and LB and little more, he may surprise  us and push for a start but he’s cover for two positions in one body. You need players like that.

[LongTimeAdmirer 1304]

22 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

I think Kelly is seen as cover for LCB and LB and little more, he may surprise  us and push for a start but he’s cover for two positions in one body. You need players like that.

expensive cover at 150k per week

[Howmanheyman 34775]

If we get the offer we seemingly have for Miggy the club will do what they think is best and they usually do ok, fwiw, I'll be amazed if they don't sell him, take the transfer fee and use his wages for somebody else either now or summer whichever works out the best for availability. 

[Gemmill 47717]

The 150k per week is no more than a rumour. 

[Howmanheyman 34775]

3 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

The 150k per week is no more than a rumour. 

 

I've no idea what he's on but it frees it up. 

[Gemmill 47717]

Sorry, I was responding to LTA quoting the £150k per week rumour about what Kelly is getting paid. 

[Howmanheyman 34775]

4 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Sorry, I was responding to LTA quoting the £150k per week rumour about what Kelly is getting paid. 

 

Apologias. 

 

[Toonpack 10597]

46 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said:

expensive cover at 150k per week

 £75k per position and no amortisation on a fee, absolute bargain.

[PaddockLad 18071]

  Fenway are taking the money this month iyam . Let’s hear what the self righteous pricks say after that  

 

 

 

 

[wykikitoon 21749]

Would love it if he went this month  They're title challenge would be gone.

[Gemmill 47717]

Be hilarious if he goes. Be canny mental from him as well though if he thinks they're gonna win the league. The big Saudi payday will wait. 

[Dr Gloom 22789]

It’s their title to lose. It would say a lot about him if he’s more arsed about a final payday than winning a second premier league title. He’s already got enough money and will no doubt secure a shitload more even if he delays his move until the summer .

 

I’d love to see him take the money and run this month  

[wykikitoon 21749]

I cannot see him leaving this window like.

[Toonpack 10597]

There was noise a few weeks ago that he was pissed off Liverpool hadn’t come to him with an offer, could be he goes, he’s an Arab and if he feels insulted that’s not easy to overcome.

 

I’m not sure the murderering bin dipping cunts (©️TBD) will want to renew him at a length of contract he’d be happy with, he’s 32 his legs’ll go soon.

 

Be great if he fucked off.

[PaddockLad 18071]

Why would AH (are they pif owned?) pay millions for a player they can have for nothing in 5 months?… or would they paying for “first option”? he’d have a lot of options this summer….

[The Fish 11127]

Late to the party but here's my two-penneth on Kelly (and Almiron).

 

Lloyd Kelly was a free transfer that excited not a soul. He is a warm body and, while he's not going to be on the rumoured £150k per week, he is gobbling up wages while providing not a lot. Botman, Schar and Burn are the three first choice Centre Backs. Krafth and Lascelles can provide a similar level of cover that Kelly can and neither of them would attract anything like an £11m fee. Maybe Alex Murphy is good enough to be 4th (FOURTH) choice Centre back?

 

We also have Hall, Burn, Targett as PL proven left backs, plus Livramento and Trippier who can all fill in at Left back to the same standard as Kelly. 

 

So, here's a saleable asset, not vital to our short or long term targets, who isn't going to improve much, and who's attracting interest. 

 

Fucking sell him now. If a defender of Lloyd Kelly's ability is the difference between getting Champions League football and not, I'd argue our troubles run a lot deeper than even the most pessimistic cunt could imagine.

 

If we can get c£20m in January for Almiron and Kelly we should absolutely fucking do it. We should have wriggle room due to our caution in the summer, add £20m pure profit to the book in January it should mean we've money to spend now AND money to spend in the summer.

Edited yesterday at 15:11 by The Fish

[Toonpack 10597]

46 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Late to the party but here's my two-penneth on Kelly (and Almiron).

 

Lloyd Kelly was a free transfer that excited not a soul. He is a warm body and, while he's not going to be on the rumoured £150k per week, he is gobbling up wages while providing not a lot. Botman, Schar and Burn are the three first choice Centre Backs. Krafth and Lascelles can provide a similar level of cover that Kelly can and neither of them would attract anything like an £11m fee. Maybe Alex Murphy is good enough to be 4th (FOURTH) choice Centre back?

 

We also have Hall, Burn, Targett as PL proven left backs, plus Livramento and Trippier who can all fill in at Left back to the same standard as Kelly. 

 

So, here's a saleable asset, not vital to our short or long term targets, who isn't going to improve much, and who's attracting interest. 

 

Fucking sell him now. If a defender of Lloyd Kelly's ability is the difference between getting Champions League football and not, I'd argue our troubles run a lot deeper than even the most pessimistic cunt could imagine.

 

If we can get c£20m in January for Almiron and Kelly we should absolutely fucking do it. We should have wriggle room due to our caution in the summer, add £20m pure profit to the book in January it should mean we've money to spend now AND money to spend in the summer.

Fundamentally disagree on Kelly. Schar, Burn, Lascelles, Krafth, Tripps and Target are pretty unlikely to be here in 12 months, even if a couple of them are, they are way towards (beyond) the wrong end of the age scale. Kelly is 26 and he’s got pace to burn, we have no idea how good he is without a run of games, which admittedly in an ideal world he won’t get.

 

Sell him and we’d have to replace him because we basically will have little cover pretty damn soon and that’ll cost way more than we’ll get for him. When he was at Bournemouth he was considered as capable of playing anywhere across the back four, that has value.

 

The £10 million pure profit is likely bollocks as well, how much was his signing on fee and the agent fee’s, I don’t know but had seen circa £6 mill mentioned.

 

Selling him is short termism for minimal gain with potential long term pain. It’s way more than just about today it’s about long term squad planning/building.

 

Eddie rates him enough to have signed him twice, that’s good enough for me.

Edited yesterday at 15:56 by Toonpack

[The Fish 11127]

5 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

Fundamentally disagree on Kelly. Schar, Burn, Lascelles, Krafth, Tripps and Target are pretty unlikely to be here in 12 months, even if a couple of them are, they are way towards (beyond) the wrong end of the age scale. Kelly is 26 and he’s got pace to burn, we have no idea how good he is without a run of games, which admittedly in an ideal world he won’t get.

 

Sell him and we’d have to replace him because we basically will have little cover pretty damn soon and that’ll cost way more than we’ll get for him. When he was at Bournemouth he was considered as capable of playing anywhere across the back four, that has value.

 

The £10 million pure profit is likely bollocks as well, how much was his signing on fee and the agent fee’s, I don’t know but had seen circa £6 mill mentioned.

 

Selling him is short termism for minimal gain with potential long term pain. It’s way more than just about today it’s about long term squad planning/building.

 

Eddie rates him enough to have signed him twice, that’s good enough for me.

 

Schar's reportedly in talks for a new contract and Burn's deal runs out in 2026. Lascelles and Krafth will be moved on, no doubt, but that's a problem for the Summer when we'll need to replace our - check notes- 4th and 5th choice CBs. 

 

Kelly absolutely does not have pace to burn, that's just not true. He's not ponderous, but there's no way I'd call him quick. He's 26 and hasn't shown much more promise than Premier League squad player. He's not going to be as good as Schar, let alone Botman. so at best he's going to be a squad player. 

 

The £10m pure profit is PSR accounting. That £10m on the books could pay for a much more expensive replacement. He cost us nothing in transfer fees so whatever we sell him for is pure profit. Oh, and there's absolutely no fucking way we paid £6m as a signing/agent fee for Lloyd Kelly. In 23/24 we paid £18.8m on agent fees, when we signed;  Tonali, Barnes, Livramento, Minteh, and Hall. There's no way Lloyd Kelly's agent got nearly 32% of their combined outlay.

 

 

 

Eddie might like the lad, he may think he's a super cool fun dude, but the lad is fundamentally not a top 6 centre back and if we want to improve the squad, he's exactly the type of player we need to be moving on. Him, Almiron, Longstaff and Dubravka (in the summer). 

[aimaad22 4415]

Well considering all the news seems to point to us rejecting Kelly bids and finally getting the Almiorn deal done, we can see whose thought process here matches that of the football pros.

[Rayvin 5621]

Gloves really coming off now

[Gemmill 47717]

3 minutes ago, aimaad22 said:

Well considering all the news seems to point to us rejecting Kelly bids and finally getting the Almiorn deal done, we can see whose thought process here matches that of the football pros.

 

We're thought leaders. They're bot feeders. 

[Diego21 2150]

On 1/14/2025 at 10:51 PM, The Fish said:

All fart nee shite.

 

@Diego21 will back me up.

Agree. Although Malen had a good 2023-2024, he seems to me to be a very irregular player who gets injured a lot.