Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Dr Gloom 22789]

5 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

I’m just flabbergasted that you spent all yesterday suggesting we don’t sell our 5th (of about 7) choice CB  because we might be short then sell 1 of our 2 RWs. 😁

 

You’re then trying to back up the argument by saying he hasn’t played well recently (which is true) but this again could be used to beat Kelly with.

 

 

[Toonpack 10597]

30 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I've fancied seeing if we could turn Tino into a right-sided Bale. Has the physical attributes. 

 

The one thing that irks me (slightly) about Tino is, he can't, or won't, cross the ball and his delivery is poor if he does, he likes a pass backwards as much as Miggy.

[Holden McGroin 7048]

2 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

The one thing that irks me (slightly) about Tino is, he can't, or won't, cross the ball and his delivery is poor if he does, he likes a pass backwards as much as Miggy.

Aye. He needs to work on his delivery. He seems to get the ball stuck under his feet a lot then dribbles his way out of trouble. He is looking superb defensively though. Big improvement.

[wykikitoon 21749]

12 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

I’m just flabbergasted that you spent all yesterday suggesting we don’t sell our 5th (of about 7) choice CB  because we might be short then sell 1 of our 2 RWs. 😁

 

You’re then trying to back up the argument by saying he hasn’t played well recently (which is true) but this again could be used to beat Kelly with.

 

I guess we just see what Big Mitch does. 

 

CB's we have;

Botman (just back from an ACL)
Burn
Schar (currently ill / injured)
Lascelles (currently fucked)
Kelly

We also have;

Krafu who can play there, but is a midget.

 

So we have 6 players for two spots.  One of the players has just come back from an ACL so his game time needs managing and then we have another who's fucked with an ACL and isn't a starter.  Out of them 6 we also have 50% the wrong side of 30 with Krafu edging that way.  Whilst this isn't too much of an issue, return from injury / fatigue plays a bigger role.  Burn has been immense but he's had little rotation.

 

So whilst I don't think Kelly has been too great this season, selling him now without a player to back him up is fucking madness.

On RW we have options that can get us by.  Almiron has played 148' of football in the PL this season, avg of 7' a game.  So can we do without him?  Yes, he's gone.  That should be clear to most.

[Dr Gloom 22789]

10 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

The one thing that irks me (slightly) about Tino is, he can't, or won't, cross the ball and his delivery is poor if he does, he likes a pass backwards as much as Miggy.

I love Tino but if he had trippier’s technical ability he’d be some player 

[Holden McGroin 7048]

You’re still continuing with this?

RCB- Schar

RCB - Lascelles

RCB - Krafu

LCB - Botman

LCB - Burn

LCB-  Kelly

LCB - Alex Murphy (at a push)

 

Kelly might not even make the bench when all CBs are fit.
 

Barnes is injured now. Gordon is being kept on the left as he is wasted on the right.  Miggy has been getting more game time recently because Eddie has worked out everyone he has tried on the RW has unbalanced us. 
 

That’s me done explaining the logic. I’ll let the brains at NUFC decide our fate.

 

 

 

 

[Toonpack 10597]

7 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

CB's we have;

Botman (just back from an ACL)
Burn
Schar (currently ill / injured)
Lascelles (currently fucked)
Kelly

We also have;

Krafu who can play there, but is a midget.

 

So we have 6 players for two spots.  One of the players has just come back from an ACL so his game time needs managing and then we have another who's fucked with an ACL and isn't a starter.  Out of them 6 we also have 50% the wrong side of 30 with Krafu edging that way.  Whilst this isn't too much of an issue, return from injury / fatigue plays a bigger role.  Burn has been immense but he's had little rotation.

 

So whilst I don't think Kelly has been too great this season, selling him now without a player to back him up is fucking madness.

On RW we have options that can get us by.  Almiron has played 148' of football in the PL this season, avg of 7' a game.  So can we do without him?  Yes, he's gone.  That should be clear to most.

[Toonpack 10597]

2 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

You’re still continuing with this?

RCB- Schar

RCB - Lascelles

RCB - Krafu

LCB - Botman

LCB - Burn

LCB-  Kelly

LCB - Alex Murphy (at a push)

 

Kelly might not even make the bench when all CBs are fit.
 

Barnes is injured now. Gordon is being kept on the left as he is wasted on the right.  Miggy has been getting more game time recently because Eddie has worked out everyone he has tried on the RW has unbalanced us. 
 

That’s me done explaining the logic. I’ll let the brains at NUFC decide our fate.

 

 

 

 

Factor in ages/contract length and that logic flies out the window in terms of a squad with any longevity.

[Holden McGroin 7048]

2 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

Factor in ages/contract length and that logic flies out the window in terms of a squad with any longevity.

It’s possible Kelly is seen as Burns natural successor and Lascelles probably won’t get another year on his contract.  Only Big Mitch knows this though but as we were after Tosin and Guehi then I think further additions will come in a CB in the future. 

[Dr Gloom 22789]

age is a factor but it's a numbers game. we have bodies at CB in reserve - players happy to play in that position. we don't have any rotation options at RW if miggy goes who have shown they want to play in that position or who can perform to the required level. 

 

i'm all for selling miggy too, but failing to replace him is a big gamble.

Edited yesterday at 10:48 by Dr Gloom

[Holden McGroin 7048]

4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

age is a factor but it's a number game. we have bodies at CB in reserve - players happy to play in that position. we don't have any rotation options at RW if miggy goes who have shown they want to play in that position or who can perform to the required level. 

 

i'm all for selling miggy too, but failing to replace him is a big gamble.

Howe has found the winning formula, so unbalancing the team again (eg playing Gordon or Big Joe on the RW) would be counter productive. 

[RobinRobin 11897]

6 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

It’s possible Kelly is seen as Burns natural successor and Lascelles probably won’t get another year on his contract.  Only Big Mitch knows this though but as we were after Tosin and Guehi then I think further additions will come in a CB in the future. 

Some talk around Timori at Milan being available. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4104]

22 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

On RW we have options that can get us by.  Almiron has played 148' of football in the PL this season, avg of 7' a game.  So can we do without him?  Yes, he's gone.  That should be clear to most.

I mean St James park pitch is 345’ and he must have at least run the length of that this season.

[Dr Gloom 22789]

3 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

I mean St James park pitch is 345’ and he must have at least run the length of that this season.

 

[LondonBlue 861]

imo you can never have too many CB's

 

playing 4 CB's works so they provide complete defensive cover ( i remember when we won the war, sorry the CL we often played with 4 CB's pushing Stones into midfield and further )

and it's all too easy for them to get injured given their position. 

we've had Stones, Akanji, Dias and Ake injured most of the season plus Walker who seems done. so it can happen if you're not careful.

last time we had a situation like this we had just let Kompany retire when Laporte got a season long injury and hey presto, Liverpool won the league.

 

my point is, don't be too eager to let quality CBs leave

 

[Holden McGroin 7048]

I’m not sure Kelly is classed as a quality CB from within our fan base.

 

Ironically, I think he’ll come good if he ever gets a run in the team.

 

 

[Gemmill 47717]

9 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

imo you can never have too many CB's

 

playing 4 CB's works so they provide complete defensive cover ( i remember when we won the war, sorry the CL we often played with 4 CB's pushing Stones into midfield and further )

and it's all too easy for them to get injured given their position. 

we've had Stones, Akanji, Dias and Ake injured most of the season plus Walker who seems done. so it can happen if you're not careful.

last time we had a situation like this we had just let Kompany retire when Laporte got a season long injury and hey presto, Liverpool won the league.

 

my point is, don't be too eager to let quality CBs leave

 

 

 

[Holden McGroin 7048]

Just now, Gemmill said:

 

 

 

[wykikitoon 21749]

31 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

You’re still continuing with this?

RCB- Schar

RCB - Lascelles

RCB - Krafu

LCB - Botman

LCB - Burn

LCB-  Kelly

LCB - Alex Murphy (at a push)

 

Kelly might not even make the bench when all CBs are fit.
 

Barnes is injured now. Gordon is being kept on the left as he is wasted on the right.  Miggy has been getting more game time recently because Eddie has worked out everyone he has tried on the RW has unbalanced us. 
 

That’s me done explaining the logic. I’ll let the brains at NUFC decide our fate.

 

 

 

 

 

You're still continuing with this?

You have totally ignored an ACL of Lacellles and his age,
You have totally ignored Botman has just come back from an ACL
You are really adding Alex Murphy to this?   He played 11 minutes in PL football last season when we were down to the bare bones man.  So removing Kelly would see him do that.

Krafth isn't a CB.  Yes he's done a job there every now and then mostly out of necessity due to injuries, but you cannot say he's a CB.  

 

'Miggy has been getting more game time recently'

Over the festive (Lets say whole of December to NJY) period, i.e the busiest part of the season he has played 46' of football over 7 games of football.  So is he really getting more game time?  Even if we add in the 84' against Bromley where he did what?  That's not exactly him 'getting more game time' with an avg of 16 minutes. 

[Gemmill 47717]

The wykiki - McGroin ceasefire has ENDED! 

 

YES! 

[Holden McGroin 7048]

3 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

The wykiki - McGroin ceasefire has ENDED! 

 

YES! 

 

it has ended. I didn’t even bother reading his reply. It smelled like a TheFish’s style post. 
 

 

[LondonBlue 861]

24 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

I’m not sure Kelly is classed as a quality CB from within our fan base.

 

Ironically, I think he’ll come good if he ever gets a run in the team.

 

 

 

we said that about Cole Palmer

 

we let him go for the money and to open a pathway for Oscar Bobb

 

I've given up with the we must do this or that. well i'm trying to give it up

 

[wykikitoon 21749]

13 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

 

it has ended. I didn’t even bother reading his reply. It smelled like a TheFish’s style post. 
 

 

 

At least Ahmed lubs you

[LondonBlue 861]

21 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

The wykiki - McGroin ceasefire has ENDED! 

 

YES! 

 

to be honest when i come on here i often confuse those two guys

 

[wykikitoon 21749]

1 minute ago, LondonBlue said:

 

to be honest when i come on here i often confuse those two guys

 

 

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