Isegrim 10636 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 17:32, wykikitoon said: Do we spend in Jan? Suppose 4 month is a long way to go and depends on a lot of things. Expand We probably won’t know before January 31st tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7506 Posted August 30, 2024 Author Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 17:16, Isegrim said: As always I am amazed how different the approach to deadline day is in England and Germany. Expand Have you met the English? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51416 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 This looks shite cos of the Ashworth/Staveley thing too. Successive very professionally run windows, where we had our business done before deadline day, and now this. The fact Ashworth wasn't involved in our best window since the takeover won't matter to the narrative. We've gone from looking like a proper outfit to looking a bit shite following Ashworth and Staveley's departures. I'm not suggesting we're fucked without these two or anything. I'm just saying we're gonna be hearing some "what's going wrong at Newcastle?" stuff. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23394 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 17:50, Gemmill said: This looks shite cos of the Ashworth/Staveley thing too. Successive very professionally run windows, where we had our business done before deadline day, and now this. The fact Ashworth wasn't involved in our best window since the takeover won't matter to the narrative. We've gone from looking like a proper outfit to looking a bit shite following Ashworth and Staveley's departures. I'm not suggesting we're fucked without these two or anything. I'm just saying we're gonna be hearing some "what's going wrong at Newcastle?" stuff. Expand That;s exactly how the gammons are going to see it. But, get a decent few games strung together and people will forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7787 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 17:55, wykikitoon said: That;s exactly how the gammons are going to see it. But, get a decent few games strung together and people will forget about it. Expand what happens if we lose a few? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7787 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 17:50, Gemmill said: This looks shite cos of the Ashworth/Staveley thing too. Successive very professionally run windows, where we had our business done before deadline day, and now this. The fact Ashworth wasn't involved in our best window since the takeover won't matter to the narrative. We've gone from looking like a proper outfit to looking a bit shite following Ashworth and Staveley's departures. I'm not suggesting we're fucked without these two or anything. I'm just saying we're gonna be hearing some "what's going wrong at Newcastle?" stuff. Expand who is to say this isn’t true? We don’t know either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51416 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 17:57, Holden McGroin said: who is to say this isn’t true? We don’t know either way. Expand Mitchell hasn't just become a bad DoF overnight, I'm sure. We'll see though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23394 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 17:56, Holden McGroin said: what happens if we lose a few? Expand Then they wont forget it Yeh getting Geuhi in would have given the squad a lift and a boost in quality, but he is one player. Likewise RW postion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23394 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 I'm more waiting on the gammons* on here when Burn gets crocked and we have no CB and they trot out a bairn in Murphy and he's not ready. *You're not really Gloomy 😘 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7787 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 18:01, wykikitoon said: I'm more waiting on the gammons* on here when Burn gets crocked and we have no CB and they trot out a bairn in Murphy and he's not ready. *You're not really Gloomy 😘 Expand Kelly is the replacement for Burn. And he is probably a better player overall but Burn is playing well this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23394 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 18:02, Holden McGroin said: Kelly is the replacement for Burn. And he is probably a better player overall but Burn is playing well this season. Expand Yeh he's started pretty solid has Burn which is good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7835 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Guehi back on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4865 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 17:50, Gemmill said: We've gone from looking like a proper outfit to looking a bit shite following Ashworth and Staveley's departures. I'm not suggesting we're fucked without these two or anything. I'm just saying we're gonna be hearing some "what's going wrong at Newcastle?" stuff. Expand Aye, this was evidenced by the last minute PSR scramble, and now the same thing is repeating on deadline day. Didn't learn much in 2 months did we, you just hope they get their act together from here on. First time since the takeover you feel like we've gone backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gemmill 51416 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 18:30, aimaad22 said: Aye, this was evidenced by the last minute PSR scramble, and now the same thing is repeating on deadline day. Didn't learn much in 2 months did we, you just hope they get their act together from here on. First time since the takeover you feel like we've gone backwards. Expand Nah, the "PSR scramble" was well handled imo. They got rid of two fringe players and cleared £60m of PSR profit. The fact it happened on the final day is neither here nor there for that. We got the business done that needed done and we didn't lose any of our big players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 12272 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Wonder if we’re one of the 4 as yet unnamed clubs in for Reiss Nelson. Seems like something we’d do tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4865 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 18:34, Gemmill said: Nah, the "PSR scramble" was well handled imo. They got rid of two fringe players and cleared £60m of PSR profit. The fact it happened on the final day is neither here nor there for that. We got the business done that needed done and we didn't lose any of our big players. Expand Fact we left it till the last day was a bit desperate wasn't it? It could have clearly gone tits up which is why Gordon was being touted. I get why we had to move along Minteh and Anderson, probably the best we could do in the circumstances, but the last day scramble just shows you we aren't as sorted out as we'd come to expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51416 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Nah, it doesn't. The buying clubs know they're trying to pick up bargains off PSR fucked clubs. Maximum point of leverage is the last day of the "PSR window". They deserve credit for sorting it and they deserve the opposite for everything that's happened since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33672 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 18:30, Kid Dynamite said: Guehi back on? Expand I was surprised we weren’t in for him on loan. Though maybe we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10636 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 It’s rarely good to leave things until the last moment. But as with the transfer dealings I am unsure how much if it is really down to a lack of competence. We had to sign players knowing that would put us in a bad position in regards to psr. We do also still suffer from years of mismanagement. We don’t have saleable assets, at least none we actually want to get rid off. We also can’t force other clubs to sign our players. There is only so much you can actually do. Obviously there are players like Almiron who could get sold, but I understand the reluctance to do it without having a suitable replacement in place who will improve us. I do also think that a clubs are still reluctant to deal with us and especially do us favours. We are rich on paper and got a pretty bad reputation because of our owners. I can imagine that does dealing with other clubs still difficult, especially in England. People like Parish probably feel happy to hamper our progress as much as possible. That’s why we still get those regulations that are foremost in place to hurt us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23993 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) On 30/08/2024 at 18:34, Gemmill said: Nah, the "PSR scramble" was well handled imo. They got rid of two fringe players and cleared £60m of PSR profit. The fact it happened on the final day is neither here nor there for that. We got the business done that needed done and we didn't lose any of our big players. Expand I agree. They did what they needed to do. It was disappointing to lose both players but PSR meant we had to shift someone and they were the least worst option. There would have been hell on if it was Bruno, Gordon or Isak sold instead. What has followed has been really disappointing though. Not a single player in to improve the first team when there was clearly money to spend is piss poor Edited August 30, 2024 by Dr Gloom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7835 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 18:48, ewerk said: I was surprised we weren’t in for him on loan. Though maybe we were. Expand Now being reported as a £17m permanent deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10581 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 macdonald to arsenal waddle to tottenham beardsley to liverpool gascoigne to tottenham cole to man utd lee bowyer vernon anita etc etc etc... vlachodimos £22m, june 2024 the worst transfer window in newcastle living memory?? yes, I believe it is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 1018 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Anita was absolute dogshit but at least he was (ostensibly) a first-team player. We've bought nobody for the first team and have instead dredged up an ancient relic, signed a fifth-choice keeper that nobody wants and who in all likelihood will never appear in our colours, and brought in a covering CB on a free. PSR or no PSR it is an abject failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23993 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 On 30/08/2024 at 20:07, acrossthepond said: Anita was absolute dogshit but at least he was (ostensibly) a first-team player. We've bought nobody for the first team and have instead dredged up an ancient relic, signed a fifth-choice keeper that nobody wants and who in all likelihood will never appear in our colours, and brought in a covering CB on a free. PSR or no PSR it is an abject failure. Expand someone has fucked uo somewhere. What will the chairman make of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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