Holden McGroin 7771 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 (edited) On 21/08/2024 at 07:58, Gemmill said: I mean Twitter has said we might be in for Madueke, if that's what you mean? Expand Rumours don’t tend to come from official press releases. Edited August 21, 2024 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11817 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 07:56, Dr Gloom said: I would have been happy to sign Guehi. But I think the prices quoted are nuts and I think RW is a more obvious weak spot in the squad which I sincerely hope we address Expand It’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 07:59, Toonpack said: It’s not. Expand Are you still pissed? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51266 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 07:59, Holden McGroin said: Rumours don’t tend to come from official press releases. Expand well I wish I hadn't come off twitter now, given that its rumours are to be given such weight. Rumours don't come from the club these days. In other words, I don't think there's anything coming out of the club linking us with Madueke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Downie has said that Fulham potentially signing Anderson won't affect the Guehi deal. Presumably Parish is at least smart enough to know that with two years remaining on Guehi's contract he'll never get a better price than now. That fact should really strengthen our hand, and Anderson maybe going is the physical proof that they want to sell Guehi now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 The rumours about Madueke came from the I as well, so not just some random on twitter. I think it was Mark Douglas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51266 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 08:04, Polarboy said: The rumours about Madueke came from the I as well, so not just some random on twitter. I think it was Mark Douglas? Expand I don't think Mark Douglas is getting anything from the club either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 08:02, Gemmill said: well I wish I hadn't come off twitter now, given that its rumours are to be given such weight. Rumours don't come from the club these days. In other words, I don't think there's anything coming out of the club linking us with Madueke. Expand I clearly caveated it by saying no-one has any idea. You're just guessing about how we are operating and who we have on lists etc. All we really know is that we've bid for Guehi because Parrish has let his mouth go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51266 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 07:44, Holden McGroin said: The point was Chelsea have a huge surplus of good players that they will need to shift in the next ~10 days. They’ll be playing hardball until the latter stages. I’m sure we have profiles on all of them. madueke and someone like Disasi or Chalobah will undoubtedly improve our squad. You have to be fluid in the transfer market. I’m sure we didn’t had Ruddy on a top list but he became available and he fitted (into whatever role he has) Expand BTW you've conveniently zeroed in on the "rumoured" Madueke, but this was your initial post which stated that "Chelsea have a huge surplus of good players which they need to shift in the next ~10 days". Which is where I came up with the suggestion that our transfer window has come down to finding our least worst pick of Chelsea's rejects. I don't think I was twisting words at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 I used it as an example. And they are hardly rejects. Weren't you getting a boner about us signing Madueke? Ewerk, do your stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11349 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 20/08/2024 at 18:15, Toonpack said: Why is Joelinton (for example) a PSR cost (other than wages) he’s bought, paid for and amortised?? Expand His cost is because we gave him a new contract which amortises the remainder of his value over the length of his new contract. e.g. bought in 2019 for €43m on a 6 yr deal. That's €7.2m a year for until 2025. However he signed a 4 yr contract extension in 2024. So 43.3-(5x7.2) = 7.2 remaining of his amortised transfer fee 7.2/4 = 1.8 a year until 2028 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51266 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 08:09, Holden McGroin said: I used it as an example. And they are hardly rejects. Weren't you getting a boner about us signing Madueke? Ewerk, do your stuff. Expand I think he's decent. But I also don't think we should sign anyone just because I think they're decent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 08:16, Gemmill said: I think he's decent. But I also don't think we should sign anyone just because I think they're decent. Expand I see the delay in posting was you doing a search to verify this 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51266 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 No I used my memory and my knowledge that I think he's decent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23350 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 CB for two positions we have; Lascelles - Fucked knee, return date? Potentially played his last game for us. Botman - Fucked knee, return date? Burn Schar - Currrently suspended (Is it 3 games?) - In final year of contract. Kelly That's it, but people think we need a RW over a CB? Yes Krafth can cover but he's not a natural CB. What happens if Burn get's fucked? He was out with a back injury last season! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11817 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 A million times what Wyki said. Even with our tragic (according to some) RW, we scored a shitload of goals last season BUT we conceded a shitload too, and aye there's the Pope factor but if we improve what's in front of the GK we improve defensively as a whole AND reduce the monumental fall off in performance between Pope and whoever is #2, should Pope be injured again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11349 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 08:33, wykikitoon said: CB for two positions we have; Lascelles - Fucked knee, return date? Potentially played his last game for us. Botman - Fucked knee, return date? Burn Schar - Currrently suspended (Is it 3 games?) - In final year of contract. Kelly That's it, but people think we need a RW over a CB? Yes Krafth can cover but he's not a natural CB. What happens if Burn get's fucked? He was out with a back injury last season! Expand Botman should be back December/January, so we've 4 players for 2 positions. Plus any kids that are able to step up, there were a couple of U21s who got minutes at the back in preseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11349 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 (edited) Put it this way, if we can get a Gordon/Barnes standard player ont he right flank, we're immeasurably more dangerous going forward. And with worse players than we have now, we had the joint meanest defence in the league 2 seasons ago. I think a coach can have more impact on a defensive unit, bringing them up to a higher standard than they naturally are. More impact than the same coach can have at the top end of the pitch where natural talent makes more of a difference. I'm not explaining myself well, I know. But a €60-70m attacker makes more of a difference to our ambitions, than a €60-70m defender would. Edited August 21, 2024 by The Fish 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 08:45, Toonpack said: A million times what Wyki said. Even with our tragic (according to some) RW, we scored a shitload of goals last season BUT we conceded a shitload too, and aye there's the Pope factor but if we improve what's in front of the GK we improve defensively as a whole AND reduce the monumental fall off in performance between Pope and whoever is #2, should Pope be injured again. Expand I get your point and we definitely need a CB but if everyone stays fit then Guehi doesn’t displace Schar for me. So that’s lot of money on a backup. I don’t think the defence was that bad last season. It was the protection they got from an unfit and patched together midfield. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 12206 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 08:58, Holden McGroin said: I get your point and we definitely need a CB but if everyone stays fit then Guehi doesn’t displace Schar for me. So that’s lot of money on a backup. I don’t think the defence was that bad last season. It was the protection they got from an unfit and patched together midfield. Expand He absolutely does overtake Schar as first choice RCB - Schar is at most three head traumas away from doing a Chris Benoit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 09:13, Dazzler said: He absolutely does overtake Schar as first choice RCB - Schar is at most three head traumas away from doing a Chris Benoit. Expand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7771 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Gundogan back to Man City. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23350 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 Gemmill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51266 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 I don't understand why we don't just ask Chelsea for a list of the players they don't want, and then get Adam Pearson to live-tweet pick one via eeny-meeny-miney-mo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51266 Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 On 21/08/2024 at 09:23, wykikitoon said: Gemmill Expand I mean it's almost as if I'm the brains of the operation, isn't it. The club should be paying me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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