Gemmill 42580 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 He might be missing from their team this weekend, you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1205 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 We should put in a cheeky bid for chalobah to let them know theirs other options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29474 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: We've offered 60. An extra 5 is neither here nor there. And for the 10th time, he's only just turned 24 last month, and if he's still our first choice centre half when he's 32, then £65m will have been an absolute steal. It would make him the 7th most expensive defender in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4433 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: We've offered 60. An extra 5 is neither here nor there. And you wonder why Northern Rock went tits up 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: It would make him the 7th most expensive defender in history. Warren Barton was once the most expensive defender in England. WHAT OF IT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, Christmas Tree said: And you wonder why Northern Rock went tits up Well it wasn't through buying centre halves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 You're only getting a laugh for the first time you posted that btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4649 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 7 hours ago, Gemmill said: When you've taken a fortnight to get within £5m of their valuation, and that fortnight was the last two weeks before the season starts, I think there's a fairly strong argument for just going the extra 5 and getting the bloke in the squad for at least match week 2. Unless we are in very low-key advanced discussions on a cheaper alternative, that is. We do have previous for that. The media were going mad over us pursuing Barella and then we announced Tonali instead. We've really done two pieces of huge business so far since the new owners came in, Tonali and Isak and both were without a peep from anyone until it was done. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Warren Barton was once the most expensive defender in England. WHAT OF IT. Harry Maguire was £80mil 5 years ago. I know which one I'd rather have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Cannavaro only cost Juventus 10m euros. We should sign him instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 31563 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 9 hours ago, Andrew said: We've really done two pieces of huge business so far since the new owners came in, Tonali and Isak and both were without a peep from anyone until it was done. This media stuff seems to be very much coming from Palace's end or the player's agent. Doesn't mean we're not after him but they couldn't hold their water by the looks of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 39 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: This media stuff seems to be very much coming from Palace's end or the player's agent. Doesn't mean we're not after him but they couldn't hold their water by the looks of it? I think they fully expected a bidding war and probably can't believe that there's still only one interested party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21280 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 The one thing these owners haven’t done so far is let a selling club take the piss. They’ve walked away from deals that played out in the media in the way this one has - Diego Carlos springs to mind - and have worked hard to establish a reputation as tough negotiators to stop selling clubs trying to add a Newcastle tax. This deal makes zero sense after all that. I think, and hope, we walk away from it now. We have to be honest about where we are in the bullshit world of psr/ffp. Guehi is a good defender but he’s never worth £65m and we don’t have the financial headroom to throw that kind of cash on him just because he had a good euros. There are other, good CB options out there for much less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 If you sign him on a 5 year deal, the PSR difference between £50m and £65m is basically nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21280 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 15 minutes ago, Gemmill said: If you sign him on a 5 year deal, the PSR difference between £50m and £65m is basically nothing. You could have got him for £30m before the euros. And there are other defenders available for that sort of fee that are just as good or better than Guehi. The big money would be better spent on a new right winger - the one glaring weak spot in the squad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29474 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 16 minutes ago, Gemmill said: If you sign him on a 5 year deal, the PSR difference between £50m and £65m is basically nothing. It's the equivalent of a £15m player. You're saying that signing Alan Shearer, the league's greatest ever striker, is basically nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29474 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13749477/Newcastle-FOURTH-offer-Marc-Guehi-Crystal-Palace.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 40 minutes ago, ewerk said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13749477/Newcastle-FOURTH-offer-Marc-Guehi-Crystal-Palace.html YEAH BABY! In your FACE, Dr Fiscally Responsible! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 8680 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 38 minutes ago, ewerk said: It's the equivalent of a £15m player. You're saying that signing Alan Shearer, the league's greatest ever striker, is basically nothing. The cost to this years accounts is £13mill (if he’s £65mill) or £10 mill (if he’s £50 mill) so aye bugger all tbh. Obviously wages on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29474 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 minutes ago, Toonpack said: The cost to this years accounts is £13mill (if he’s £65mill) or £10 mill (if he’s £50 mill) so aye bugger all tbh. Obviously wages on top. Yes but it's the equivalent of another £15m player on a five year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21280 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) Am I alone here in thinking this bloke is worth nowhere near what we paid for Isak? Solid centre half, English, so an inflated transfer fee is baked in, used to the premier league etc - but if it wasn’t for six good games in a poor England team during the euros he’d be going for £20-30m. It’s exactly the sort of deal we have avoided and the type Man U usually fall for - paying well over the odds on a player who will never be worth that much again throughout his career. Perhaps I’m missing something that other people have seen that can suggest I’m wrong here but he doesn’t look like an obvious successor to Schar. Certainly not a like-for-like ball-playing centre back. And tbh, if we do sign him, i don’t think he starts when everyone is fit - Schar and Botman are better players, surely? Edited August 16 by Dr Gloom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42580 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: Yes but it's the equivalent of another £15m player on a five year contract. You can get fuck all for £15m these days. We just spent £20m to sign King Poseidon in nets. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1205 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) 30 mil for Guehi? I don’t agree with 65 mil but 30? Edited August 16 by LongTimeAdmirer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34058 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 12 hours ago, Gemmill said: Warren Barton was once the most expensive defender in England. WHAT OF IT. Well he was poor value for money and nowhere near the best in the world at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10422 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 12 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Am I alone here in thinking this bloke is worth nowhere near what we paid for Isak? Solid centre half, English, so a inflated transfer fee is baked in, used to the premier league etc - but if it wasn’t for six good games in a poor England team during the euros he’d be going for £20-30m. It’s exactly the sort of deal we have avoided and the type Man U usually fall for - paying offer the odds on a player who will never be worth that much again throughout his career. Perhaps I’m missing something that other people have seen that can suggest I’m wrong here but he doesn’t look like an obvious successor to Schar. Certainly not a like-for-like ball-playing centre back. And tbh, if we do sign him, i don’t think he starts when everyone is fit - Schar and Botman are better players, surely? I don't think that's true, look at what Forest paid for Anderson, or what West Ham paid for Max Kilman. The market is all over the place. I blame Chelsea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now