GrahamTaylor5 872 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 It is interesting to see how frustrated we are with this sale considering that we don't know of he can make it in the Premier League. There is no guarantee that he would make it here and if he doesn't then the potential £30,000,000 would be amazing. We only got £23,000,000 for ASM and he was doing relatively well for us,mor had done, over a number of seasons. I know that we can see him as one for the future but I am still waiting for Anderson to show the level of promise that we were expecting. To be clear, it is not a criticism of Anderson but just an observation that sometimes it is worth the gamble to take the money and run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrRaspberryJam Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 24 minutes ago, Alex said: Minteh is completely unproven in England and it’s almost pure profit. That doesn’t mean I’m happy about it but I can see the rationale. It also doesn’t mean we don’t subsequently flog Almiron to a Saudi team whilst getting a serious RW upgrade. I can’t say signing DCL makes a lot of sense like. I just hope we have a buy-back clause agreed just on the off-chance he’s the next Arjen Robben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7250 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 24 minutes ago, Alex said: Minteh is completely unproven in England and it’s almost pure profit. That doesn’t mean I’m happy about it but I can see the rationale. It also doesn’t mean we don’t subsequently flog Almiron to a Saudi team whilst getting a serious RW upgrade. I can’t say signing DCL makes a lot of sense like. It makes sense only in the context of FFP/PSR both of which make little sense. DCL is a good player, if we can get him at a low price due to having a year left on his contract and a patchy injury record then it probably makes sense. Wilson is 5 years older. Despite their similar frames DCL and Isak are very different players that could potentially work ok together, though with our existing system would be used individually. Both Almiron and Wilson will be sold if there is any interest. It's ridiculous that last season out only two strikers were Wilson and Isak. Without Europe it's a little more palatable but still leaves us short if we only sell and replace Wilson. It's a shame really as I feel Wilson has done enough here to play out his time as an impact substitute and potential cup starter (when his body is able) but regulations outside of our control mean that we can't 'afford' to do this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3311 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 58 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: I just hope we have a buy-back clause agreed just on the off-chance he’s the next Arjen Robben. Does it really matter you coffee table shitting cunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32756 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 That time we were after Francis Jeffers from Everton but lost our and got Bellamy instead, this seems a bit like getting Jeffers. In seriousness, if he stays fit I'd have confidence in this version of NUFC getting it right with bringing in DCL. I get the feeling he might be a bit of a confidence player and coming here after the toxicity of Goodison these last few years might see him be an absolute bargain as it could be a huge breath of fresh air, see A. Gordon who looked full of fight there with potential but not what he has become here. Disappointing that we could be letting a diamond away when it's in our hands but he could end up being this decades Andy Carroll, you just don't know? I'm guessing the club have worked it out better than us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42075 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Someone didn’t Hawk Tuah Dougle last night 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17087 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: That time we were after Francis Jeffers from Everton but lost our and got Bellamy instead, this seems a bit like getting Jeffers. In seriousness, if he stays fit I'd have confidence in this version of NUFC getting it right with bringing in DCL. I get the feeling he might be a bit of a confidence player and coming here after the toxicity of Goodison these last few years might see him be an absolute bargain as it could be a huge breath of fresh air, see A. Gordon who looked full of fight there with potential but not what he has become here. Disappointing that we could be letting a diamond away when it's in our hands but he could end up being this decades Andy Carroll, you just don't know? I'm guessing the club have worked it out better than us. from my Everton supporting mate. DCL is another target of the Gwladys Street End’s boo boys, my mate fuckin despises them. He truly believes they hold the club back… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6533 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 I’m seeing comments like “devastating” and “this club, man” on X. The kid is completely unproven and never even played for us. Some fans are mental. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamTaylor5 872 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 10 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I’m seeing comments like “devastating” and “this club, man” on X. The kid is completely unproven and never even played for us. Some fans are mental. To be fair when we signed him, we had all heard this name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6992 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 IMO - Wilson out for a similar fee to DCL in makes sense. DCL is younger and had a largely injury free season last year - If selling Minteh means we can keep Isak and Bruno it's a no brainer. I hope we have a buy back clause though - We are obviously after another CB. Don't know too much about Kilman but worry about his quality if he can't get ahead of Dunk in the England team. Tomori also linked apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11146 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 15 minutes ago, GrahamTaylor5 said: To be fair when we signed him, we had all heard this name. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3817 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6992 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 31 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I’m seeing comments like “devastating” and “this club, man” on X. The kid is completely unproven and never even played for us. Some fans are mental. I guess the one justified question is, does it make sense to sell our bright young RW when that's potentially the one area we need to strengthen most? I guess the rationale would be that's an instant £20-30mil in the bank, where's signing an Olise type player would probably cost £8mil a season spread over 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44410 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 We wouldn't be doing this if we weren't in a hole on PSR. I just hope the rules get sorted out cos having clubs with no financial concerns do this hokey-cokey every year to meet an arbitrary figure is ludicrous. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6533 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 11 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: I guess the one justified question is, does it make sense to sell our bright young RW when that's potentially the one area we need to strengthen most? I guess the rationale would be that's an instant £20-30mil in the bank, where's signing an Olise type player would probably cost £8mil a season spread over 5 years Aye. In an ideal world we’d keep him but it’s pure profit on a player that’s never even played for us. It’s the new PSR world we live in in afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 6 hours ago, Toonpack said: While we undoubtedly could do with an upgrade at RW, I don’t get the fixation with it, seems all anyone talks about “we need a new RW” etc. last season we created/scored more goals than ever. Miggy contributed three goals and one assist over the whole of last season, Murphy is decent but not top class. RW is the one area that we haven’t improved since the takeover and is well overdue an upgrade. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34855 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 hours ago, Holden McGroin said: I’m seeing comments like “devastating” and “this club, man” on X. The kid is completely unproven and never even played for us. Some fans are mental. Twitter is rammed to the gills with people who should be ignored being given an audience 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17087 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 33 minutes ago, ewerk said: Miggy contributed three goals and one assist over the whole of last season, Murphy is decent but not top class. RW is the one area that we haven’t improved since the takeover and is well overdue an upgrade. If Minteh ends up at Dortmund I wonder where Sancho will end up?.. very much a Howe type player… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6992 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 12 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: If Minteh ends up at Dortmund I wonder where Sancho will end up?.. very much a Howe type player… Nah. He's on mega bucks and his attitude stinks. Permanently late for training apparently Lyon in for Minteh now https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804880854587515016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 15 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: If Minteh ends up at Dortmund I wonder where Sancho will end up?.. very much a Howe type player… Straight swap for Ashworth? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2641 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 4 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Someone didn’t Hawk Tuah Dougle last night 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2641 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 4 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said: When have I ever shit out a coffee table? Perhaps you should consider it? Cut out the middle man and all that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17087 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 15 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Nah. He's on mega bucks and his attitude stinks. Permanently late for training apparently Lyon in for Minteh now https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804880854587515016 His attitude stinks because he’s fallen out with Ten Bob? Newcastle will have to start to pay bigger wages at some point…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9433 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 14 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: His attitude stinks because he’s fallen out with Ten Bob? Newcastle will have to start to pay bigger wages at some point…. Aye his attitude has never been questioned during either stint with Dortmund. In fact he ran himself into the ground most games for them. He was late to training because the manager didn’t like his face and made the kid train with the youth teams, even banning him from having a scran with the squad. Playing second fiddle to a 90m flop who batters his missus probably didn’t help either like. Even worse, Ten Hag also wanted Greenwood back in the squad so he’d have been playing third fiddle to two nonces. Hardly a place to give your all for. They reckon £30m gets Sancho and even if he’s a bit uppity our squad will make him fall in line as they are all close so won’t tolerate a bellend. He’d be a massive upgrade on what we have, and if proving himself and getting back into the England set up is what he’s after then I’m sure the money won’t be a problem imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17087 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 39 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Nah. He's on mega bucks and his attitude stinks. Permanently late for training apparently Lyon in for Minteh now https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804880854587515016 Brighton too apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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