Transfers, 2024-25 season

[ohhh_yeah 3053]

On 07/11/2022 at 07:50, Howay said:

 

If we could sign Sangare in January, I think the football world would throw their collective toys out the pram. 

 

 

[Diego21 2168]

 

[The Mighty Hog 587]

 

Is that the Coutinho money still being spent?

[Dr Gloom 23947]

Meh 

[Andrew 5303]

Really good player, always hard to tell if a player will translate well from the dutch league to the PL.

 

Also doesn't address any of their issues at all, despite their injuries right now he plays in the same position and both Jota and Diaz.

 

They've absolutely just signed him because they could and because it prevents Man u from having him.

[Christmas Tree 5206]

I think Eddie has created a massive dilemma for the powers that be at NUFC.

He has us so well placed going into the transfer window that there must be a temptation to bring some of the spending forward and gamble on securing Champions league qualification this year.

 

I must admit though it’s getting harder to pick people you would like to see upgraded out of our normal starting 11 this window  

 

At a push I would have to go with Longstaff and possibly another striker and cover for Trippier.

 

But that’s only based on Wilson and Izaks injury woes.

 

Its going to be hard to see some of these lads drop down the pecking order as time goes by given what they have done over the last 12 months  

[Alex 37264]

1 minute ago, Christmas Tree said:

I think Eddie has created a massive dilemma for the powers that be at NUFC.

He has us so well placed going into the transfer window that there must be a temptation to bring some of the spending forward and gamble on securing Champions league qualification this year.

 

I must admit though it’s getting harder to pick people you would like to see upgraded out of our normal starting 11 this window  

 

At a push I would have to go with Longstaff and possibly another striker and cover for Trippier.

 

But that’s only based on Wilson and Izaks injury woes.

 

Its going to be hard to see some of these lads drop down the pecking order as time goes by given what they have done over the last 12 months  

The plus side is though that those who’ve done well will get more opportunities as we compete on more fronts. The change in the subs rules has made it more of a squad game than ever too. That bench wasn’t great yesterday either. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14782]

You’d think a midfielder will be made a priority with Shelvey injured again. Especially since he was never a long-term answer anyway. That would be on top of Maddison if I was running things. Someone with a good range of passing who can sit deep ala the Shelv-Dog

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4295]

None of the other teams seem to give a fuck about ffp, how much has Chelsea spent etc..

[Chaser 1393]

Seems odd to suggest another striker given weve signed 2 in 2 windows. Wilson is just not fit enough, we've still got Isak out meaning our only recognised striker is Wood. 

 

Not sure what's going on with Shelvey given another injury and this auto contract extension stipulation but would like to see us bring another deep lying midfielder in to give us more options. Right back cover thereafter to help Trippier get through the season unscathed. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14782]

Us signing a right back is probably dependant on when Krafth is fit. Could see us getting that young kid from West Ham and having Krafth as cover. Especially after his form last season 

[Gemmill 51099]

Being linked with Ashby from West Ham again at RB. 

[Chaser 1393]

24 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Being linked with Ashby from West Ham again at RB. 

I'll admit I know nowt about the lad but we must be keen on him if he's still being talked up. 

[strawb 4669]

Despite everyone being in great form, they are all replaceable by better players imo. Longstaff, almiron, asm, willock, burn, fab, even joelinton.
 

There is a point when these players become the squad players to better players, or leave.

[thebrokendoll 10538]

25 minutes ago, strawb said:

Despite everyone being in great form, they are all replaceable by better players imo. Longstaff, almiron, asm, willock, burn, fab, even joelinton.
 

There is a point when these players become the squad players to better players, or leave.

 

poor miggy.

 

fourfourtwo currently ranking him as the 7th best right winger in the world. got saka in 2nd and salah 1st. he's arguably outperforming them both, certainly if he added a few more assists. love the lad, seems no reason to think his performances will dip, on the contrary, his confidence continues to grow.

 

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-best-right-wingers-in-the-world-right-now

[Christmas Tree 5206]

30 minutes ago, strawb said:

Despite everyone being in great form, they are all replaceable by better players imo. Longstaff, almiron, asm, willock, burn, fab, even joelinton.
 

There is a point when these players become the squad players to better players, or leave.

Its still a bit like discussing the coming demise of an old dog whilst discussing a new puppy  

[Dr Gloom 23947]

Miggy is going to play a big part for the next few years. It’s the work he does executing the press that’s so important to how we play. His pace and engine and the fact he never seems to tire suits Howe’s system perfectly. Adding the goals is a massive bonus and makes him undroppable. 

[PaddockLad 19310]

5 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

Its still a bit like discussing the coming demise of an old dog whilst discussing a new puppy  

It is an astonishingly cynical post from a supporter after yesterday

 

Its also technically correct but unlikely to happen to any significant extent over the next couple of windows. The hierarchy rightly or wrongly seem to be wanting to stick closely to FFP rules. And Eddie is big on squad harmony which we obviously have a huge amount of at the moment. We’ll see though….

[strawb 4669]

Yeah I’m not saying it will happen soon, but it will happen. 
 

Also there is nothing wrong with for example, Diaby coming in, taking Almirons first choice spot and Almiron becoming the first sub or rotation option for games against weaker teams. It’s how squads and teams get better over a length of time.

[ewerk 33614]

It’s impossible to predict what will happen in January. We’ve gone into the last two windows with the club briefing that we’re not going to do much and have ended up pleasantly surprised.

 

This window is different though as we’re entering it from a position of strength and don’t need to bring anyone in. I think we’ll get a couple of inexpensive signings to strengthen the squad and maybe a first team player if one of our top targets become available but that’s unlikely imo.

[strawb 4669]

That’s the thing though, the time to buy is from a position of strength

[ewerk 33614]

But January generally isn’t the time to buy unless you really need to or you find a club that needs to sell. CL qualification this season would see us accelerate our plans.

[Howay 12496]

1 hour ago, strawb said:

Despite everyone being in great form, they are all replaceable by better players imo. Longstaff, almiron, asm, willock, burn, fab, even joelinton.
 

There is a point when these players become the squad players to better players, or leave.

Completely agree. I remember arguing with some people on here that Bruno should start and being told the balance of a Shelvey, Joelinton, Willock midfield was too important to disturb, the same could be said about the Schar and Burn pairing before we bought Botman. 
 

As you say it’s also about bringing up the mix/level, a player like Almiron who has done really well still remains an important member of the squad but then a Fraser or a Murphy has to go.

 

If we went out and bought Maddison to come and replace Willock, who then drops to the bench, and then Sangare/Alvarez to replace Longstaff we’d have a CL level midfield playing in the Howe system that has seen players massively playing above their level. 
 

This is the first window where we finally have leverage imo, we’ve been going into windows scrapping with teams to force prices down with the threat of relegation looming or glaring weaknesses, now we have a team firing on all cylinders we can push for fairer prices and have the comfort of knowing we can wait people out (for example Maddison and Thuram contracts ending). 

[LondonBlue 1048]

3 hours ago, Christmas Tree said:

Its going to be hard to see some of these lads drop down the pecking order as time goes by given what they have done over the last 12 months  

looking on your board to try and find a chat about title ambitions this year and i saw this line.  it resonated with me having gone through much of the same stuff.

 

it's so hard replacing loved players. but its a constant thing that has to be done. eventually you get to the point that you can't even agree who should start due to the quality of the squad. ie this player must start buuut so must that one.

 

[LondonBlue 1048]

6 minutes ago, ewerk said:

But January generally isn’t the time to buy unless you really need to or you find a club that needs to sell. CL qualification this season would see us accelerate our plans.

we bought Julian Alvarez last January for 15m but left him in Argentina until the summer, so it can be done.