Polarboy 2311 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) With Werner off their wage bill, and with whatever fee they get, it could be that Chelsea are extra motivated to go after Sesko who they as mentioned have been linked to. There's a strong danger that even if we manage to negotiate a fee with Salzburg, if indeed we are really serious about him, Chelsea or Man U will swoop in at the last minute. Edited August 7, 2022 by Polarboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego21 2135 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Polarboy said: Tough convincing a Portuguese player to join us when Wolves are involved, if these reports hold any weight. Of course if he isn't excited about our potential, and would rather the comfort of having numerous fellow countrymen around him, then he's probably not the right sort of character to begin with. Jorge Mendes is the men that controls Valencia and Wolves (and Braga, Besiktas, even Atletico overall in the past) and some portugueses and brazilian players. If you see the Wolves squad, you can find several players under the Mendes Umbrella. Jose Sá, Neves, Moutinho, Semedo, Totti, Jiménez, Pedro Neto, Podence, Chiquinho, Adama Traoré and even the coach Bruno Lage. In the recent years... Nuno (the coach), Trincao, Diogo Jota, Vinagre, Rafa Mir, Rui Patricio, Helder Costa, Ivan Cavaleiro... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6994 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 One of the loan options that's been mooted for us ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polarboy 2311 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 It could just be a negotiating tactic, but either way they will be looking for an over the odds fee. Given the clubs apparent strict policy of only going for players if they think they will get value, with Wood being the exception, I can't see us getting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Apparently we're going to have another go at getting Gordon from Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6534 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I hope not but perhaps Everton are still in a financial predicament so we could get some traction there. He has only played a handful of games so wouldn't want to blow my load on him but Howe and Co have earned some credits so I'll trust their judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 What is Gordon's position exactly? What is he meant to do well? To me, last time we played them, he looked like a squirrel on crack. Not sure how that translates into our team, though I guess it could be useful in the press. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19944 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 He's an utter shithouse as a player, it's whether that translate to him off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10750 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, Rayvin said: What is Gordon's position exactly? What is he meant to do well? To me, last time we played them, he looked like a squirrel on crack. Not sure how that translates into our team, though I guess it could be useful in the press. He's a left winger who can play on the right. I compared him to ASM and Almiron because they're two very different types of wide player and we're all pretty familiar with them. I'm talking percentiles here, not actual figures. e.g. Almiron is in the 99th percentile for tackles, Gordon 96th, and ASM is in the 1st. Gordon is comparable to Almiron for defensive actions (tackles 96-99, pressures 92-95, interceptions 81-80 etc.), only really leaving him behind for blocks 98-44 When it comes to the midfield actions Progressive carries AG-32, MA 11, ASM 87. Dribble completed AG 61, MA 19, ASM 99 , Passes attempted AG 21, MA14, ASM 7 Progressive passes AG 19, MA 14, ASM 14 Pass Completed AG 11, MA 78, ASM 27 Touches (Att Pen) AG 36, MA 40, ASM 57 At the business end of the pitch, he has significantly less assists and goals than ASM (both actual and expected) Non-penalty goals AG 30, MA 8, ASM 32 Non-penalty xG AG 14, MA 8, ASM 37 Total Shots AG 30, MA 26, ASM 53 Shot creating actions AG 32, MA 21, ASM 69 Assists AG 13, MA 2, ASM 43 npxG+A AG16, MA 1, ASM, 39 Statistic AG% ASM% MA% Non-Penalty Goals 30 32 8 npxG 14 37 8 Shots Total 30 53 26 Assists 13 43 2 xA 26 56 3 npxG+xA 16 39 1 Shot-Creating Actions 32 69 21 Passes Attempted 21 7 14 Pass Completion % 11 27 78 Progressive Passes 19 14 14 Progressive Carries 32 87 11 Dribbles Completed 61 99 19 Touches (Att Pen) 36 57 40 Progressive Passes Rec 8 19 9 Pressures 95 1 92 Tackles 96 1 99 Interceptions 81 22 80 Blocks 98 5 44 Clearances 36 4 69 Aerials won 54 42 10 He doesn't blow my skirt up but he might be an improvement on Almiron? I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 At least we didn't get gazumped by Chelsea or Man U, and we're obviously in need of a forward now, and not next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44430 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 He must like Red Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42108 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21827 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Weird move when big PL clubs are in the mix for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 He's still only 19, so maybe he really does want to follow Haaland's career trajectory. As in start at Salzburg, join a German team for a couple of seasons, and then move on to a big English or Spanish club. Of course if his development doesn't go to plan he may regret not taking the big move while he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 We've supposedly submitted an enquiry for Conor Gallagher off Chelsea. I'd be pretty underwhelmed if we are actually interested in him, given that I don't think he's much better than say a Willock given he's an attacking mid. He'd add depth and little else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21827 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Announce Paqueta 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Glad we fucking dodged this 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6994 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 hours ago, The Fish said: He's a left winger who can play on the right. I compared him to ASM and Almiron because they're two very different types of wide player and we're all pretty familiar with them. I'm talking percentiles here, not actual figures. e.g. Almiron is in the 99th percentile for tackles, Gordon 96th, and ASM is in the 1st. Gordon is comparable to Almiron for defensive actions (tackles 96-99, pressures 92-95, interceptions 81-80 etc.), only really leaving him behind for blocks 98-44 When it comes to the midfield actions Progressive carries AG-32, MA 11, ASM 87. Dribble completed AG 61, MA 19, ASM 99 , Passes attempted AG 21, MA14, ASM 7 Progressive passes AG 19, MA 14, ASM 14 Pass Completed AG 11, MA 78, ASM 27 Touches (Att Pen) AG 36, MA 40, ASM 57 At the business end of the pitch, he has significantly less assists and goals than ASM (both actual and expected) Non-penalty goals AG 30, MA 8, ASM 32 Non-penalty xG AG 14, MA 8, ASM 37 Total Shots AG 30, MA 26, ASM 53 Shot creating actions AG 32, MA 21, ASM 69 Assists AG 13, MA 2, ASM 43 npxG+A AG16, MA 1, ASM, 39 Statistic AG% ASM% MA% Non-Penalty Goals 30 32 8 npxG 14 37 8 Shots Total 30 53 26 Assists 13 43 2 xA 26 56 3 npxG+xA 16 39 1 Shot-Creating Actions 32 69 21 Passes Attempted 21 7 14 Pass Completion % 11 27 78 Progressive Passes 19 14 14 Progressive Carries 32 87 11 Dribbles Completed 61 99 19 Touches (Att Pen) 36 57 40 Progressive Passes Rec 8 19 9 Pressures 95 1 92 Tackles 96 1 99 Interceptions 81 22 80 Blocks 98 5 44 Clearances 36 4 69 Aerials won 54 42 10 He doesn't blow my skirt up but he might be an improvement on Almiron? I guess. Are you on crack? 4 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Weird move when big PL clubs are in the mix for him Possibly a red bull to red bull thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30308 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Craig said: Glad we fucking dodged this Look at the fucking state of him. He would have been better saying nothing rather than posting that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34879 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Are you on crack? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6994 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Other than Maddison and Paqueta, I think pretty much every forward we've been linked with has signed for another club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Gordonmay not be a popular signing but we have to trust Howe. Look what he's done with Big Joe. Look how he's now got Maxi running & passing. IF we sign Gordon im sure Howe will get the very best out of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Holden McGroin 6534 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Probably a good signing for them if Lampard is going to play 3 CBs. Good communicator and leader. He gets badly exposed when in 2 though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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