Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Foxedup 0]

  On 03/07/2022 at 16:42, Howay said:

Tielemans makes about £30k a week at Leicester. So he’s claiming that’s unrealistic amounts, unless Edwards is now claiming to have a level of insider knowledge into what Tielemans asks are and that those asks would be 4 times his salary or more, which he clearly doesn’t so I’d disregard everything he’s saying. Ben Jacobs is a leicester fan and that’s where his contacts are, he’s closer to this story than chicken nonce. 
 

Edwards is a country mile off nowadays with most his stuff. We aren’t going to blow our whole budget on defence when our major issue was in attack, he’s even said himself it makes no sense yet goes on like that’s what has happened  

 

I hope we sign Tielemans even more now than I previously did, just to prove this arrogant bloke even more wrong. 

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Couple of things, firstly Ben Jacobs knows absolutely nothing. He’s laughed at by Leicester fans for his bulls*** over the years and seems to be trying to reinvent himself as some transfer guru.

 

Tielemans is on well over £100k a week, and has a contract on the table for a significant increase. He’s been planning his next move since he signed, which is why he would only take 4 year contract and not a 5 we wanted him to. He knew the power reverted back to him to work himself a move to a big club with European football. 
 

Im not sure plugging away in midtable is really on his agenda for the next few years, neither is signing a long term contact for someone without European football. A couple of years down the line and it would have been a different story, as the investment starts to pay off for you.

[Howay 12496]

  On 03/07/2022 at 21:37, ewerk said:

What’s the point in taking him on loan or Chelsea giving him to us on loan if he isn’t going to be starting? It would only make sense if we have a fee agreed.

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Aye I feel like any loans we do get will be FFP workaround types as you mention, I’d be fairly surprised if we did sign Broja on a loan with no option as like you say if he’s just backing up Wilson there’s not much incentive for Chelsea. 

[Dr Gloom 24040]

  On 04/07/2022 at 02:44, Foxedup said:

Couple of things, firstly Ben Jacobs knows absolutely nothing. He’s laughed at by Leicester fans for his bulls*** over the years and seems to be trying to reinvent himself as some transfer guru.

 

Tielemans is on well over £100k a week, and has a contract on the table for a significant increase. He’s been planning his next move since he signed, which is why he would only take 4 year contract and not a 5 we wanted him to. He knew the power reverted back to him to work himself a move to a big club with European football. 
 

Im not sure plugging away in midtable is really on his agenda for the next few years, neither is signing a long term contact for someone without European football. A couple of years down the line and it would have been a different story, as the investment starts to pay off for you.

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who’s going to be plugging away in mid table?  Our owners have the top six in the crosshairs.

 

Some players can see that and will buy into it. We had no right to sign the likes of trippier and Bruno last season but they can see what’s happening and were persuaded to join at the beginning of the project. 

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[wykikitoon 23463]

  On 03/07/2022 at 22:28, Polarboy said:

 

Well if Ashworth and Howe think he's worth it and actually go for him, I'll trust their judgement over my own layman, in comparison, knowledge. And in fairness it's people like Thomas Tuchel, Hasenhüttl etc, i.e. people of a high caliber football knowledge wise who are praising him. It's not Paul Merson, Andy Gray, monkey hands Keys etc. 

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Sorry I do agree with your point, but HassenBITCH and high calibre football knowledge 😂

[The Fish 11379]

  On 01/07/2022 at 09:28, wykikitoon said:

Hasn't he had to sell to balance the books?  I.e can he spend it?

Or is it a new FFP year or something?

Paging @The Fish

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Everton made something like c£350m losses over the past few years, when you're allowed to make c£100m losses. I have no idea how they've managed to convince the authorities that this is due to COVID but they have. It's utter bullshit and they should not only be facing transfer sanctions, but Leeds and Burnley surely have a case for compensation.

 

Anyway, Selling Richarlison for c£50m gets some money back, and gets a presumably high earner off the wages. There's still a fucking huge financial hole they need to dig themselves out of. They'll likely need to sell others like DCL as peddling fringe players for £5-10m isn't really going to cut it. Issue with that is that if Calvert-Lewin leaves, the only remaining natural Centre Forward in the first team squad is Rondon. The only striker I've seen them seriously linked with is Emmanuel Denis from Watford, but the price would surely be a stumbling block?

 

[ewerk 33725]

  On 04/07/2022 at 08:28, The Fish said:

 

They'll likely need to sell others like DCL as peddling fringe players for £5-10m isn't really going to cut it.

 

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Do they though? The reason that the Richarlison deal was done early was so it would be on last season's accounts. If they believe they've done enough to stay within the FFP limits then I don't see why they'd have to sell anyone at this stage.

[The Fish 11379]

  On 04/07/2022 at 08:44, ewerk said:

 

Do they though? The reason that the Richarlison deal was done early was so it would be on last season's accounts. If they believe they've done enough to stay within the FFP limits then I don't see why they'd have to sell anyone at this stage.

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Even if you put £50m on last season's accounts, they're still in a financial hole. So even if some of the £350m loss could be attributed to COVID for the previous 3yr period, they haven't suddenly made £200m profit to get them back within the £100m loss for this new 3yr period, right?

[Dr Gloom 24040]

Negotiations have begun for Diabe, apparently. 

[Craig 7080]

  On 04/07/2022 at 10:31, Dr Gloom said:

Negotiations have begun for Diabe, apparently. 

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Is that the imitation Diaby?

[RobinRobin 12738]

  On 04/07/2022 at 10:22, The Fish said:

 

Even if you put £50m on last season's accounts, they're still in a financial hole. So even if some of the £350m loss could be attributed to COVID for the previous 3yr period, they haven't suddenly made £200m profit to get them back within the £100m loss for this new 3yr period, right?

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Does it work on separate 3 year periods or rolling terms? 

[trophyshy 7507]

  On 04/07/2022 at 10:31, Dr Gloom said:

Negotiations have begun for Diabe, apparently. 

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[Sonatine 12142]

  On 04/07/2022 at 10:31, Dr Gloom said:

Negotiations have begun for Diabe, apparently. 

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[wykikitoon 23463]

Eikrssen to Man Utd apparently. 

 

Fanny 

[wykikitoon 23463]

  On 04/07/2022 at 10:31, Dr Gloom said:

Negotiations have begun for Diabe, apparently. 

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Linky? 

[The Fish 11379]

  On 04/07/2022 at 10:42, RobinRobin said:

Does it work on separate 3 year periods or rolling terms? 

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Rolling, afaik. Wouldn't make much sense to do it on different periods.

[Kid Dynamite 7842]

 

[Dr Gloom 24040]

  On 04/07/2022 at 11:08, wykikitoon said:

Linky? 

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[Dr Gloom 24040]

Can’t find a link, but CBS Sports apparently 

[Dr Gloom 24040]

  On 04/07/2022 at 11:09, Kid Dynamite said:

 

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balls like peas 

[Polarboy 2317]

  On 04/07/2022 at 05:58, wykikitoon said:

 

Sorry I do agree with your point, but HassenBITCH and high calibre football knowledge 😂

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😂 He is a complete tit but he's a decent coach to have seen Southampton to safety for the past few years, given how relatively tight they are with transfer funds, and just generally being a selling club. And then you just have to compare him to Merson etc. 

[Dr Gloom 24040]

Shame about Eriksen. He could have been a transformational signing. Hope he’s a massive failure for Man U 

[ewerk 33725]

  On 04/07/2022 at 10:22, The Fish said:

 

Even if you put £50m on last season's accounts, they're still in a financial hole. So even if some of the £350m loss could be attributed to COVID for the previous 3yr period, they haven't suddenly made £200m profit to get them back within the £100m loss for this new 3yr period, right?

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It all really depends on the contracts signed by their most expensive transfers. Everton haven't spend huge sums since the £183m they spunked in 2017. All those transfers fees will be spread over the length of the contracts which were signed five years ago and so could now be fully expensed. They've got rid of Digne, Kean and James who would have all been on big wages.

 

But basically I haven't got a clue.

[Kid Dynamite 7842]

  On 04/07/2022 at 11:13, Dr Gloom said:

 

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Struggling to find this on their twitter feed so I would take it with a pinch of salt!

[Howay 12496]

 

 To the surprise of absolutely no one Edwards is there to say none of it will happen but offers up zero information regarding targets. 

[Holden McGroin 7800]

He knows nowt. Plus he caveats everything with open ended comments  so he can turn around and say eg "well I did say that he was really pricey but nufc decided to pay it." 

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by Holden McGroin