Dr Gloom 21911 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, wykikitoon said: I bet he will leave a mark on ya 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10838 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: Can't say I'm blown away, mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17239 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 19 years old left back playing regularly in Serie A....Matt Targett is 26, virtually at his peak...if we assume Targett will be signed permnently this summer then bringing in a young lad for competition is a good move tbf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10838 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: 19 years old left back playing regularly in Serie A....Matt Targett is 26, virtually at his peak...if we assume Targett will be signed permnently this summer then bringing in a young lad for competition is a good move tbf... I'm not writing the lad off, I'm just saying that, some of the key stats for a fullback who's playing regularly in a top division are... uninspiring. Progressive carries or passes are below average or... shocking Tackles, interceptions are poor. xA and Shot creating actions aren't great either. Hard to see, from stats alone, exactly why he's highly regarded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13856 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I’m going to assume our scouts have actually watched him with their own eyes, like. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21911 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: I’m going to assume our scouts have actually watched him with their own eyes, like. Yeah but have they looked at his xA? Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13856 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 You also have to weigh up the side he’s playing for, his age relative to what you’d expect from your first choice left back, any potential year-on-year improvements, scout reports from his international performances and just generally watching the way he operates in a back four, his character etc. Not Fish though, writing him off before his career has even began because his lines aren’t green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21911 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 xA motherfucker, have you seen it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17239 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, The Fish said: I'm not writing the lad off, I'm just saying that, some of the key stats for a fullback who's playing regularly in a top division are... uninspiring. Progressive carries or passes are below average or... shocking Tackles, interceptions are poor. xA and Shot creating actions aren't great either. Hard to see, from stats alone, exactly why he's highly regarded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10838 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I also enjoy not reading a post properly and leaping to a conclusion with hilarious consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 To be able to derive any value from the assessment of his stats we'd need to compare him with other 19 year old fullbacks tbf. In fact, probably also the stats of players who 'made it' but from when they were 19. We'd also have to somehow control for the leagues they played in, maybe a weighted scoring system that factored in overall strength of those stats across players and fullbacks in general in Serie A. Probably also applying similar mechanism for assessing the statistical strengths (with weighting) of the players he's gone up against and his colleagues in defence. - may even want a match by match assessment in there as well (if an opposition team isn't targeting 'his side' he'll have a quieter game in general, defensively, etc). This started off as poking fun but now I actually think it sounds enjoyable. Something is wrong with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17239 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Fish said: I also enjoy not reading a post properly and leaping to a conclusion with hilarious consequences. Dave, you wrote the lad off then said you weren't writing him off. Mods: can we change Dave's ID to "Forum Gaslighter"? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10838 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Because you boys are so mean, I had a quick google for scouting reports on Hickey and they seem to say similar to me; he looks like he's got some talent, but he's nowhere near the finished article and there are questions marks over his creativity, low progressive passes, defensive actions and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10838 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Dave, you wrote the lad off then said you weren't writing him off. Mods: can we change Dave's ID to "Forum Gaslighter"? 🤔 Where did I 'write him off' you plum? Not being blown away, isn't the same as saying he'll never blow me away. Edited March 31, 2022 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 hours ago, wykikitoon said: I bet he will leave a mark on ya 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9377 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, The Fish said: I'm not writing the lad off, I'm just saying that, some of the key stats for a fullback who's playing regularly in a top division are... uninspiring. Progressive carries or passes are below average or... shocking Tackles, interceptions are poor. xA and Shot creating actions aren't great either. Hard to see, from stats alone, exactly why he's highly regarded. Probably because stats alone are worth the square root of feck all. He's 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30535 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, The Fish said: Can't say I'm blown away, mind you. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 The JOCK DEFENDERS are out in full force today. Hunker down Dave. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10838 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 This young player's stats don't blow me away OMG HOW CAN YOU SAY HE'S THE WORST PLAYER EVA. HICKEY ARMY UNITE!! FUCK STATS! ONLY THIS VAGUE TRANSFER RUMOUR SAYING HE'S MINT CAN BE RELIED UPON! Children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35056 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Need to see some of his off the ball running on tv before I make a judgment 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Alex said: Need to see some of his off the ball running on tv before I make a judgment I remember that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17239 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The JOCK DEFENDERS are out in full force today. Hunker down Dave. Didn't you get the email about "disagree with Dave day"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17239 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I remember that Who said it? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I feel like it was part of a commentary Dave was making on the attributes of... Ayoze Perez? I think? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21911 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 spends all game watching runs off the ball you don't see on telly FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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