LongTimeAdmirer 1021 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2175 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 He's agreed to go to Bayern according to Ornstein as well. At least that's what I've read indirectly of the Athletic. Apparently even Chelsea couldn't afford the wages he was after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6292 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Urgh. Can't really blame him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 17871 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Wow that's a surprise but quite cool too. Fair play to him going there and having a go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9903 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 If Chelsea can't afford him we certainly can't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13109 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Edwards says we’re closing in on Calvert-Lewin. I’m going to be positive and say that this looks underwhelming but will prove to be a bargain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 6812 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 20 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: Edwards says we’re closing in on Calvert-Lewin. I’m going to be positive and say that this looks underwhelming but will prove to be a bargain As a replacement for Wilson who’s expected to leave. Seems risky in that sense to me, replacing one perma crock with another still leaves us open, we’d still need a third option to mitigate against that. I do think DCL is a quality player in his day, and in a better set up could thrive as long as he stays fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2175 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) In fairness to DCL he only missed six games last season in the PL, with a few being for a broken cheekbone, and the others for illness. 32 games is a lot more than Wilson has managed in a long time. The two seasons previous were poor for him injury wise, but as back up to Isak there'll be a lot less pressure on him physically. Last year of his contract and still 27, he could be a bit of a bargain, as has already been said, if Howe et al can negotiate a fair price. Edit. Looked at Wilson's stats and he has been available for roughly the same amount of games for a couple of seasons previous to last season, but he was being managed by Howe in terms of minutes where as DCL was starting most games last season. Obviously keeping Wilson as well would be ideal, but that seems unlikely in terms of FFP. Edited June 22 by Polarboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27665 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 He was utter shite for most of last season when he wasn’t on injured. The only good thing I can see about this is that Everton are broke and this leaves them with two forwards who managed three goals between them last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9903 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: He was utter shite for most of last season when he wasn’t on injured. The only good thing I can see about this is that Everton are broke and this leaves them with two forwards who managed three goals between them last season. Don't you start. 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2175 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 If anyone can get DCL back to the sort of form that saw his value go up to 60, 70 million it's Howe. I think it's still borderline as to whether DCL will be a permacrock for the rest of his career, but obviously that ship has sailed for Wilson at his age. For five out of the last seven seasons DCL has largely been fit and available to play. Given our financial situation DCL might be the best we can get for how much we want to spend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6292 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 37 minutes ago, Polarboy said: In fairness to DCL he only missed six games last season in the PL, with a few being for a broken cheekbone, and the others for illness. 32 games is a lot more than Wilson has managed in a long time. The two seasons previous were poor for him injury wise, but as back up to Isak there'll be a lot less pressure on him physically. Last year of his contract and still 27, he could be a bit of a bargain, as has already been said, if Howe et al can negotiate a fair price. Edit. Looked at Wilson's stats and he has been available for roughly the same amount of games for a couple of seasons previous to last season, but he was being managed by Howe in terms of minutes where as DCL was starting most games last season. Obviously keeping Wilson as well would be ideal, but that seems unlikely in terms of FFP. He's missed 69 games in 3 seasons. DCL, Wilson and Kelly are going to be fighting over the treatment table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27665 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 That’ll be two signings this summer both with poor injury records. Given our record last season at keeping players fit it does look like a real risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6292 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 I've gotta say, Kelly, Trafford and DCL isn't quite the transfer window I was hoping for to take us to the next level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2175 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 29 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: He's missed 69 games in 3 seasons. DCL, Wilson and Kelly are going to be fighting over the treatment table I'm aware. That's why I said five out of seven seasons he's largely been available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1021 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 7 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: I've gotta say, Kelly, Trafford and DCL isn't quite the transfer window I was hoping for to take us to the next level Us chasing after Oliseh suggests that there is space for at least one big statement signing, so don't start wetting your undies yet, there's plenty of time left in the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6292 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 3 minutes ago, Polarboy said: I'm aware. That's why I said five out of seven seasons he's largely been available. Alternatively he missed: 6 games last season 29 games the season before 34 games the season before that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2175 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Alternatively he missed: 6 games last season 29 games the season before 34 games the season before that I'm sceptical as well in terms of him being a replacement for Wilson, I said as much a week or two ago when we were linked again, but if he's actually going to be signed there's no point being ultra negative before he's even played a game for us. Those two bad seasons could be a sign of things to come, or it might be a significant blip of an otherwise average career in terms of getting injured. Wilson unfortunately can be written off at this stage of his career injury wise. And last season six games is relatively little to miss, and he was unfortunate getting a broken cheekbone and being Ill for the other games. I'd be more worried if he was like Wilson last season and seasons before where it's his knees, hamstrings etc over and over again. Albeit Wilson was unfortunate with the pec injury which is the type of injury that rarely happens. Edited June 22 by Polarboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 2983 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 52 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Us chasing after Oliseh suggests that there is space for at least one big statement signing, so don't start wetting your undies yet, there's plenty of time left in the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6292 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Minteh going in the other direction apparently. Surely some sort of FFP swindle this deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6292 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 I assume that we bank the transfer fee straight into this year's accounts, but spread the DCL fee over 5 years (and vice versa for Everton). On a side note, what's to stop us doing this deal and loaning the players straight back to each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 5377 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said: I assume that we bank the transfer fee straight into this year's accounts, but spread the DCL fee over 5 years (and vice versa for Everton). On a side note, what's to stop us doing this deal and loaning the players straight back to each other? that sort of deal would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam 513 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 28 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Minteh going in the other direction apparently. Surely some sort of FFP swindle this deal? There’s definitely some FFP tomfoolery going on and not just with us. Maatsen from Chelsea to Villa. 35m. Kellyman (18 year old!) Villa to Chelsea. 20m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1021 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Letting go of Minteh is a mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13109 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Everton are stupid enough to pay £5 million to get him on loan for a year tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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