Eddie Howe

[Andrew 5353]

I don't mind the idea of it being Carsley tbh, won the U21 Euros last summer with Gordon getting player of the tournament.

 

De la Fuente just came up through the age ranks at Spain and won the Euros.

[Gemmill 51568]

5 hours ago, Andrew said:

I don't mind the idea of it being Carsley tbh, won the U21 Euros last summer with Gordon getting player of the tournament.

 

De la Fuente just came up through the age ranks at Spain and won the Euros.

 

Aye. If that's the system they're trying to develop, then you have to implement it when the moment arises. If you continue to have your head turned by the big name, then your England DNA framework is just empty words. 

Edited July 17, 2024 by Gemmill

[Andrew 5353]

I'll be shocked if Howe goes for several reasons.

 

He's on the up as a club manager and is at a club with tons of ambition and (rules aside) resources to keep growing.

 

In his sit down interview with Neville you can tell that he slots into that "football perv" niche that the top managers do, he fucking LOVES it, training, planning all of it. He'd miss it if he stepped into the international job.

 

It takes a while for players to settle into Howes way of playing and training. Bruno took a while to get into the starting line up, Gordon has said he was not at the level needed physically or tactically when he joined us, hence needing 6 months to really get into the side at all. You don't get to do that with international players.

 

Given how the club were with Man U and Ashworth, and the fact that Howe signed a contract extension last summer, we'll want a fucking fortune for him.

 

The only thing I could think of that might tempt him, is that he would be getting the job right at the start of a tournament cycle, with a really talented group of players and he may back himself to go to the World Cup with them and actually win it.

[Gemmill 51568]

There's also the small matter of Howe collecting a bunch of tired players at the end of a season, taking them to the World Cup, and trying to convince them that intensity remains their identity as they wilt in the heat of Mexico/Florida. 

[thebrokendoll 10589]

51 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I'll be shocked if Howe goes for several reasons.

 

He's on the up as a club manager and is at a club with tons of ambition and (rules aside) resources to keep growing.

 

In his sit down interview with Neville you can tell that he slots into that "football perv" niche that the top managers do, he fucking LOVES it, training, planning all of it. He'd miss it if he stepped into the international job.

 

It takes a while for players to settle into Howes way of playing and training. Bruno took a while to get into the starting line up, Gordon has said he was not at the level needed physically or tactically when he joined us, hence needing 6 months to really get into the side at all. You don't get to do that with international players.

 

Given how the club were with Man U and Ashworth, and the fact that Howe signed a contract extension last summer, we'll want a fucking fortune for him.

 

The only thing I could think of that might tempt him, is that he would be getting the job right at the start of a tournament cycle, with a really talented group of players and he may back himself to go to the World Cup with them and actually win it.

 

I'd imagine that'll he'll have let the club know in no uncertain terms that they had to keep the likes of bruno, isak, gordon and they have.

can't see him walking out himself now. 

[wykikitoon 23431]

59 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I'll be shocked if Howe goes for several reasons.

 

He's on the up as a club manager and is at a club with tons of ambition and (rules aside) resources to keep growing.

 

In his sit down interview with Neville you can tell that he slots into that "football perv" niche that the top managers do, he fucking LOVES it, training, planning all of it. He'd miss it if he stepped into the international job.

 

It takes a while for players to settle into Howes way of playing and training. Bruno took a while to get into the starting line up, Gordon has said he was not at the level needed physically or tactically when he joined us, hence needing 6 months to really get into the side at all. You don't get to do that with international players.

 

Given how the club were with Man U and Ashworth, and the fact that Howe signed a contract extension last summer, we'll want a fucking fortune for him.

 

The only thing I could think of that might tempt him, is that he would be getting the job right at the start of a tournament cycle, with a really talented group of players and he may back himself to go to the World Cup with them and actually win it.

I don't know if you have seen it, but the video of some of the players returning after their break?  Big Joe knocks on Howe's door and goes in and he gets a big hug off him.  That's what you get from Wor Eddie when you have put the graft and time in for him.  You do that and you get the full respect and trust from him.  You aint getting that in international football because you just don't get the time with them.

[Ayatollah Hermione 14864]

1 hour ago, Andrew said:

I'll be shocked if Howe goes for several reasons.

 

He's on the up as a club manager and is at a club with tons of ambition and (rules aside) resources to keep growing.

 

In his sit down interview with Neville you can tell that he slots into that "football perv" niche that the top managers do, he fucking LOVES it, training, planning all of it. He'd miss it if he stepped into the international job.

 

It takes a while for players to settle into Howes way of playing and training. Bruno took a while to get into the starting line up, Gordon has said he was not at the level needed physically or tactically when he joined us, hence needing 6 months to really get into the side at all. You don't get to do that with international players.

 

Given how the club were with Man U and Ashworth, and the fact that Howe signed a contract extension last summer, we'll want a fucking fortune for him.

 

The only thing I could think of that might tempt him, is that he would be getting the job right at the start of a tournament cycle, with a really talented group of players and he may back himself to go to the World Cup with them and actually win it.

Are we sure that Eales doesn’t want his own man though? 

[Andrew 5353]

2 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Are we sure that Eales doesn’t want his own man though? 

 

Given that he was at Spurs when they appointed Vilas Boas, Sherwood and eventually Poch(though eales left a few months after that one) I would say I hope not.

 

Mitchells the one to look out for.

 

I'd be shocked if either were stupid enough to let Howe go unless we're doing really shit though.

[wykikitoon 23431]

Tory boy on the recent TF poddy was talking about Howe this season.  I think if he doesn't get a Top 6 he will be gone.  BUT, like they said.  He needs backing.  

I really can't see us getting rid of Howe.  It would seriously fuck the atmospherics up.

[Christmas Tree 5222]

Pretty convinced Howe will take the job if offered. Not only does it get his family back down south and probably a big long contract, but I think he will feel duty bound to go for it. Patriotism and all that shit.

 

Gutted if he goes but wouldn’t blame him. Would also love to see England playing his type of football. 

[MrBass 3076]

2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

Pretty convinced Howe will take the job if offered. Not only does it get his family back down south and probably a big long contract, but I think he will feel duty bound to go for it. Patriotism and all that shit.

 

Gutted if he goes but wouldn’t blame him. Would also love to see England playing his type of football. 

 

Presumably this is part of your portfolio,

[Gemmill 51568]

20 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

Pretty convinced Howe will take the job if offered. Not only does it get his family back down south and probably a big long contract, but I think he will feel duty bound to go for it. Patriotism and all that shit.

 

Gutted if he goes but wouldn’t blame him. Would also love to see England playing his type of football. 

 

He's just moved his family up here, talks about his fondness for the region, and his kids are now settled in school up here. 

 

Also, St George's Park is based in Burton on Trent. Its a 190 mile commute from Bournemouth. The exact same distance as it is from Newcastle. 

 

Other than that, GREAT POINTS. 

[trophyshy 7507]

It's too soon for Eddie, give it to him in 8 years when things have gone a bit stale at Newcastle following 5 Champions League wins on the bounce. 

[OTF 8576]

34 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

Pretty convinced Howe will take the job if offered. Not only does it get his family back down south and probably a big long contract, but I think he will feel duty bound to go for it. Patriotism and all that shit.

 

Gutted if he goes but wouldn’t blame him. Would also love to see England playing his type of football. 

 

Just after you were moving your finger closer to the pulse you come along like this and sever your finger entirely.

[The Fish 11371]

1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said:

Pretty convinced Howe will take the job if offered. Not only does it get his family back down south and probably a big long contract, but I think he will feel duty bound to go for it. Patriotism and all that shit.

 

Gutted if he goes but wouldn’t blame him. Would also love to see England playing his type of football. 

Stop acting like a teenage girl trying to have a period.

[Christmas Tree 5222]

So we can get out an interview with Eales and interview with Joe, but we can’t get Eddie to say “not interested”.

 

[RobinRobin 12729]

43 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

So we can get out an interview with Eales and interview with Joe, but we can’t get Eddie to say “not interested”.

 

[The Fish 11371]

1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said:

So we can get out an interview with Eales and interview with Joe, but we can’t get Eddie to say “not interested”.

 

[Polarboy 2317]

Just seen Bailey the journo make a decent point, that being that if Howe decides to wait until later in his career there's no guarantee that he'd get a crop of players this good again. And that if Howe is of the opinion that he could conceivably win the next world cup with said players he has a big decision to make. A relatively obvious point, but it is something more to substantial to weigh against his love of day to day club management. I'll not crack open the Pampers just yet, but I'll admit I hadn't even thought about the implications of Howe waiting until later in his career, even if it's, again, not a revelationary point. 

Edited July 18, 2024 by Polarboy

[The Fish 11371]

10 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

Just seen Bailey the journo make a decent point, that being that if Howe decides to wait until later in his career there's no guarantee that he'd get a crop of players this good again. And that if Howe is of the opinion that he could conceivably win the next world cup with said players he has a big decision to make. A relatively obvious point, but it is something more to substantial to weigh against his love of day to day club management. I'll not crack open the Pampers just yet, but I'll admit I hadn't even thought about the implications of Howe waiting until later in his career, even if it's, again, not a revelationary point. 

 

No, Howe likes the day-to-day and he's got unfinished business with the club. If we'd won stuff already he may be tempted, but he's at an ambitious club, with disgustingly wealthy and supportive owners, a fanbase that loves him and a long, long career ahead of him. 

 

England are now producing way more talented young players than once they did and by the time he's ready for international football, who knows what standard of player England will have available? 

 

He's going nowhere and anyone who thinks he is, is just letting fear override reason.

[Christmas Tree 5222]

4 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

No, Howe likes the day-to-day and he's got unfinished business with the club. If we'd won stuff already he may be tempted, but he's at an ambitious club, with disgustingly wealthy and supportive owners, a fanbase that loves him and a long, long career ahead of him. 

 

England are now producing way more talented young players than once they did and by the time he's ready for international football, who knows what standard of player England will have available? 

 

He's going nowhere and anyone who thinks he is, is just letting fear override reason.

Nope, don’t agree with the long career necessarily. I think he will be under pressure to deliver this season and I don’t think Pif would think twice about changing manager if things don’t go well.

 

If I was Howe, I would weigh that pressure against and the likelihood of good backing this transfer window against a pretty sure thing for the next 4-8 years with England.

 

[PaddockLad 19414]

Naglesmann has signed on with Germany till the 2026 World Cup  

[Gemmill 51568]

37 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

Just seen Bailey the journo make a decent point, that being that if Howe decides to wait until later in his career there's no guarantee that he'd get a crop of players this good again. And that if Howe is of the opinion that he could conceivably win the next world cup with said players he has a big decision to make. A relatively obvious point, but it is something more to substantial to weigh against his love of day to day club management. I'll not crack open the Pampers just yet, but I'll admit I hadn't even thought about the implications of Howe waiting until later in his career, even if it's, again, not a revelationary point. 

 

I've been saying this on here since Southgate resigned. 

 

It's a pretty unique opportunity to pick the job up with this good a squad, this young a squad, two years out from a world cup. 

 

Having said that, it's also a World Cup in North America in the summer. It will be fucking BOILING and our squad will have played more games than most going into the tournament. 

 

A last 16 tie in Mexico against any non-European side would be a massive struggle, especially with Howe's style of play, which we know he won't compromise on.

 

It could just as easily be England's earliest WC exit for a while if the players wilt in the heat. 

 

In fact that might even be the more likely outcome. 

Edited July 18, 2024 by Gemmill

[Toonpack 11901]

5 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

It could just as easily be England's earliest WC exit for a while if the players wilt in the heat. 

 

In fact that might even be the more likely outcome. 

 

[The Fish 11371]

1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said:

Nope, don’t agree with the long career necessarily. I think he will be under pressure to deliver this season and I don’t think Pif would think twice about changing manager if things don’t go well.

 

If I was Howe, I would weigh that pressure against and the likelihood of good backing this transfer window against a pretty sure thing for the next 4-8 years with England.

 

So, lets flip that on it's head, for fun. 

 

Howe takes the England job, are there many jobs in football under greater scrutiny, greater pressure than managing some of the most overhyped players on the planet, to the satisfaction of a bloodthirsty media and a rabidly expectant fanbase? 4-8yrs of trying and failing to achieve the unlikely success of European or World Cup victories. After that failure his stock will have fallen because of constant criticism from the press and fans, and his career at 50-54yrs old is over. 

 

Versus doing well at Newcastle (even without winning a trophy) he could move to any number of jobs in the Premier League or abroad.