thebrokendoll 9188 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 think it's the only realistic option. would be sad, but needs must. I also think the arena site would be an outstanding place to build it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42356 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Craig said: Castle Leazes (site we went for in 1997) or next to the Metro Arena seems the most plausible. We'll never get Town Moor, the council would never agree to it and there'd be hell on. I'm sure one of the biggest complaints back in 1997 was about the allotments that'd be lost. Which ironically are no longer there. Problem solved? I really think that the only viable site, if you’re looking for somewhere within the “city limits”, is the Arena. A new stadium would have to be 80-100k capacity to be worth doing, and the space needed for that, parking, concession areas, only exists at the Arena or Castle Leazes. The Arena site is (marginally) better than Castle Leazes in all aspects, and isn’t yet surrounded by residential developments. I still think there’d be valid protests if we tried Castle Leazes. If they’re going to do it, they need to get the wheels in motion before some other fucker buys the land. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9188 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 the only slight draw back to the arena is its a canny stagger from the percy, but hey, I'd get there in the end. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Looking at the aerial footprint, the Arena might have to go to make way for it. Perhaps the arena ended up on the site of the former SJP? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33095 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, thebrokendoll said: agree with this. I'd also add that despite being somebody who benefited from the system for every home game post brighton, that season ticket holders should no longer be able to buy tickets for a guest. your season ticket should guarantee your own seat only. not only that, on a match by match basis members should only be able to get one ticket. it's not going to take you very long to get pissed off you've forked out for a membership only to find out tickets have sold out before you get to your turn in the queue because a thousand people in front of you have all bought a ticket for a mate who isn't a member. It blows my mind they sell memberships but someone with a season ticket can just buy a ticket as well for any given match. If it's a league game they almost certainly won't be together and it makes a mockery of the whole point of the membership thing. Closest I've been to calling the whole NUFC thing a day since chucking it when I was smugly told I'd be easily replaced by a club employee when I had a genuine complaint and the club sharp fucking forgot about the daft cunts who went home and away to see us get beat by clubs who aren't even in the football league now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42356 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Craig said: Looking at the aerial footprint, the Arena might have to go to make way for it. Perhaps the arena ended up on the site of the former SJP? Aye, it would have to be demolished and the vacant land around it acquired. It would have the added bonus of potentially watching our six-fingered neighbours squirm like a bag of ragworms if they took any bookings from the Arena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9188 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 never been there for a match but I've driven past the allianz arena a fair few times and it's fucking awesome. imagine something like that lit up on the bank of the tyne and the first thing you see as a visiting supporter arriving by train. outstanding. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44784 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I think they should relocate like. Makes no sense to restrict the size of the ground to 60k or whatever. We've got enough money to pay someone a fortune for some insane atmosphere capturing design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9188 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: It blows my mind they sell memberships but someone with a season ticket can just buy a ticket as well for any given match. If it's a league game they almost certainly won't be together and it makes a mockery of the whole point of the membership thing. Closest I've been to calling the whole NUFC thing a day since chucking it when I was smugly told I'd be easily replaced by a club employee when I had a genuine complaint and the club sharp fucking forgot about the daft cunts who went home and away to see us get beat by clubs who aren't even in the football league now. I think other than the eligibility cut off thing the club have probably done the right thing in limiting new season ticket sales. but it only works if both the season ticket holder guest and members two ticket thing is scrapped, at the very least until capacity is increased. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: never been there for a match but I've driven past the allianz arena a fair few times and it's fucking awesome. imagine something like that lit up on the bank of the tyne and the first thing you see as a visiting supporter arriving by train. outstanding. Very rudimentary overlay but the Allianz arena would fit the footprint ..... just 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17238 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: the only slight draw back to the arena is its a canny stagger from the percy, but hey, I'd get there in the end. Spital Tongues still open? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4247 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I’ve been to the Allianz, it was Oktoberfest and I was a bit worse for wear. I remember it being decent but not great. I mainly remember how steep the stands were (we were in the 3rd tier I think) and being able to drink in our seats. Loads of land around it as well. I remember walking through park land and a massive car park before we got to the ground but again wasn’t exactly compos mentis. Looked amazing from outside all lit up mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9188 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Spital Tongues still open? 🤔 build a new stadium on the arena site mate and I'd be petitioning for the rebuilding of the doll. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 It' be a far better prospect if they could secure the land between Railway Street & Scotswood Road as well. There'd be a hell of a lot of businesses to move on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Aye, it would have to be demolished and the vacant land around it acquired. It would have the added bonus of potentially watching our six-fingered neighbours squirm like a bag of ragworms if they took any bookings from the Arena Theres already plans to demolish it. A replacement is being built next to the Sage. NGQ arena, 12500 seats https://www.gateshead.gov.uk/article/20205/NewcastleGateshead-Quays-welcomes-The-Sage-an-international-venue-for-world-class-business-and-entertainment Although this article reckons 1000 houses are being built on the land in front of the arena https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/what-happen-newcastles-utilita-arena-19267548.amp Edited June 28, 2022 by Kid Dynamite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 To be fair that article on the housing is over 18 months old. So many development projects have fallen by the wayside since Covid. And the club has of course been taken over since then. We can but dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42356 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Developers aren’t interested in building homes, they’re interested in building their bank balance. They’ll sell land without a second thought if the price is right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11256 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 7 hours ago, strawb said: Looked amazing from outside all lit up mind. Sounds like you were 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10838 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 13 hours ago, Craig said: Very rudimentary overlay but the Allianz arena would fit the footprint ..... just You could definitely make it work there. Might have an issue with the heliport mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11256 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 At least it will stop Michael Owen turning up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, The Fish said: You could definitely make it work there. Might have an issue with the heliport mind. Theoretically could it not be moved to the other side of the Redheugh Bridge? And what's the status of the rail line coming out of Central Station running between Railway Street & The Arena, is that disused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Craig 6682 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 The maths that some of these people come up with is hilarious. Pre-L7 the stadium capacity was 36,000. Extending the Milburn, NW corner & Leazes to L7 raised it to 52,000 - so an increase of 16,000 seats. Yet somehow they calculate the extension of the SW corner & the Gallowgate would take us to 70,000 - a further increase of 18,000 seats. So the Gallowgate & SW Corner combined somehow holds 2,000 more seats than the Milburn, Leazes & NW Corner combined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Am I the only one finding this both absurd & distasteful? I don't think I'd ever like to leave hashtag SJP and also whilst we are selling tickets we could perhaps add a few seats via safe standing & they would probably suffice. All this talk of increasing SJP to 70k or moving to a 90k giga stadium are absolutely absurd. Plus have you seen Spurs new stadium? It's full of craft ale, pop corn vendors & expensive sweet shops on carts. I may be stuck in the past but lt looks horrible on the inside. We should maybe get some bigger tellies & make a pint easier to get. Run before we can walk etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21911 Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Craig said: The maths that some of these people come up with is hilarious. Pre-L7 the stadium capacity was 36,000. Extending the Milburn, NW corner & Leazes to L7 raised it to 52,000 - so an increase of 16,000 seats. Yet somehow they calculate the extension of the SW corner & the Gallowgate would take us to 70,000 - a further increase of 18,000 seats. So the Gallowgate & SW Corner combined somehow holds 2,000 more seats than the Milburn, Leazes & NW Corner combined? simple solution - turn the gallowgate into the word's largest kop end 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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