Meenzer 15525 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9204 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 tremendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Bruce will be seething! Watch him unleash junior to say he's being bullied again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42427 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, Craig said: Bruce will be seething! Watch him unleash junior to say he's being bullied again. Nah, it’s all in the past… ”Newcastle is gone. It's a chapter of my football life. ” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Monkeys Fist said: Nah, it’s all in the past… ”Newcastle is gone. It's a chapter of my football life. ” Yep. Spent the majority of his first WBA press conference to say so as well, didn't he? Any other manager: "That's all in the past, I'm now the manager of xxxxxx - that's all I'm prepared to discuss." Steve Bruce: "Those fucking cockball shitheads lost me my favourite job!" Sums him up perfectly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33180 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Up there with Allardyce and Kinnear I'm afraid I can't include Kinnear in these sort of discussions, my brain just can't compute him in, I've said before, he was basically a practical joke that got out of hand between Llambias and Ashley, iyam. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) In the grand scheme of things (and I do find I'm questioning myself when typing this) but Allardyce wasn't that horrifically bad in hindsight. Yes the football was turgid but compare him to McLaren & Bruce and he was a master tactician. Kinnear I don't even recognise as a manager. As HMHM points out, I think he was used simply a means to piss us off - yes, I do think Ashley was that petty. As far as I'm concerned we had no manager between September 2008 and August 2009. BTW talking about Allardyce and McClaren got me thinking. 4 out of the last 11 permanent England managers have managed NUFC at some point - Robson, Keegan, McClaren & Allardyce. KK & SBR aside, I think that says more about how shit the England setup has been rather than anything complimentary about our managers. Edited February 10, 2022 by Craig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Sven was as dodgy as fuck mind. On so many levels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Xa9as said: Pisses me off thinking that if we had Capello in charge of that 'Golden generation' we might have actually won something, or not bottled it on pens. Stick Capello in that job in 2001, maybe we don't get Munich 5-1, but we don't get shafting FA skirt and shafted on pens. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Xa9as said: Don't worry, Joe's brain can't compute either. Just go steady - it's came out that he was diagnosed with dementia just 6 months after he left us. I'm starting to not see the funny side with him getting names wrong etc. Pisses me off that no one in the club mentioned it, when pretty much everyone he knew was worried about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13863 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Xa9as said: Pisses me off thinking that if we had Capello in charge of that 'Golden generation' we might have actually won something, or not bottled it on pens. Stick Capello in that job in 2001, maybe we don't get Munich 5-1, but we don't get shafting FA skirt and shafted on pens. Behave He still had most of the "golden generation" and his England side was fucking terrible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Craig said: In the grand scheme of things (and I do find I'm questioning myself when typing this) but Allardyce wasn't that horrifically bad in hindsight. Yes the football was turgid but compare him to McLaren & Bruce and he was a master tactician. He was shite, he took a decent midtable side and turned it into relegation survivalists, the same as he's done everywhere he's been post-Bolton. Being better than McClaren or Carver isn't good enough to avoid my ire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Fish said: Being better than McClaren or Carver isn't good enough to avoid my ire. Yeah you're fucking right, in the same breath ASM is no Kevin Sheedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Fish said: He was shite, he took a decent midtable side and turned it into relegation survivalists, the same as he's done everywhere he's been post-Bolton. I was speaking comparatively of course 😉 Re: Bolton he only looked good there because he had Jay-Jay Okocha IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9774 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Craig said: In the grand scheme of things (and I do find I'm questioning myself when typing this) but Allardyce wasn't that horrifically bad in hindsight. Yes the football was turgid but compare him to McLaren & Bruce and he was a master tactician. Kinnear I don't even recognise as a manager. As HMHM points out, I think he was used simply a means to piss us off - yes, I do think Ashley was that petty. That’s the most funny joke you ever posted tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4379 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Fish said: He was shite, he took a decent midtable side and turned it into relegation survivalists, the same as he's done everywhere he's been post-Bolton. Being better than McClaren or Carver isn't good enough to avoid my ire. Derby away. Case closed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Isegrim said: That’s the most funny joke you ever posted tbh. Look, there's shitness and then there's McClaren / Bruce levels of shitness. That's not me saying Fat Sam was any good, he just wasn't quite as as some of those who followed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Xa9as said: Didn't even score in 2003/04. One of the biggest myths in 2000's PL football is that Okocha was shit hot. Fuck me dear boy, I never suggested Jay-Jay was about scoring goals. But he did make a Big Sam team appear to play attractive football, and that takes some doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4248 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I would argue the football under Allardyce was worse than under Hair island and even Carver (who was always a stop gap). Allardyce is the moment in the newcastle timeline where I can pinpoint my attachment dwindling. He is a fucking dinosaur and his football is eye aids. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, strawb said: I would argue the football under Allardyce was worse than under Hair island and even Carver (who was always a stop gap). I'd respectfully disagree. McClaren's for me was only marginally better than Bruce. The greatest coach in football - never a serious consideration for a permanent manager. How he managed to avoid the drop quite frankly is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4248 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Craig said: I'd respectfully disagree. McClaren's for me was only marginally better than Bruce. The greatest coach in football - never a serious consideration for a permanent manager. How he managed to avoid the drop quite frankly is beyond me. Agree to disagree, pint of wine is an absolute disgrace to the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 Allardyce’s football is absolutely rank. One of the worst Newcastle teams to watch of my lifetime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, strawb said: Agree to disagree We've always been able to do that here (apart from @Gemmill of course who's never fucking wrong...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13863 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I’m not sure they live fondly in many peoples memories outside of Bolton. Certainly not the memory of Nolan and Davies elbowing their way through games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42427 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 If we use the Bristol Stool Chart as a handy analogy, Hippo Heed was 5, Quiff and Carver were 6, Bruce was 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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