wykikitoon 20712 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Fuck, that's soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Was thinking that maybe the big deal they are working on is ten Hag and Overmars together as a package. I mean ten Hag has been seriously mentioned as a contender for the Man U job, so he's obviously well thought of. Then maybe if ten Hag doesn't want to leave this far into the season they'll get someone like Farve to work with Overmars until or if ten Hag wants come at the end of the season. Overmars going by some journalists comments seems a lot more gettable than ten Hag given he's been there ten years, there's a limit to what he can achieve at Ajax, and he supposedly would be up for a new challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Wouldn't someone like Farve want a crack at the job beyond the end of the season though? It's got to be a superb opportunity for someone. Get us firing and they're gonna be worshipped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Yeah maybe, but if we threw enough money at him he might accept. Plus if he were to come in and turn around our season it would be a great shop window for him for another job in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Aye good shout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3508 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Polarboy said: Was thinking that maybe the big deal they are working on is ten Hag and Overmars together as a package. I mean ten Hag has been seriously mentioned as a contender for the Man U job, so he's obviously well thought of. Then maybe if ten Hag doesn't want to leave this far into the season they'll get someone like Farve to work with Overmars until or if ten Hag wants come at the end of the season. Overmars going by some journalists comments seems a lot more gettable than ten Hag given he's been there ten years, there's a limit to what he can achieve at Ajax, and he supposedly would be up for a new challenge. Any manager worth their salt is going to tell you to get fucked for a "get us to the end of the season" job. Big Sam and cunts like that are happy to take those roles and the money but someone like Farve wants a chance to build something. Everyone knows how I feel about Rafa and I think the new owners fucked up by not putting him and his team on retainer/gardening leave, at least for 12 months, if they honestly still thought they were going to get the club. Their ability to have a plan in place is not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17643 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Rafa was the best manager we could hope for under Ashley... he isn't anymore though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Who is then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Rafa was the best manager we could hope for under Ashley... he isn't anymore though.. Rafa is elite. He'd do allsorts with a bankroll. That wouldn't necessarily involve trophy signings but he'd build a successful side without question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I think its pie in the sky getting Rafa back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3508 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Rafa was the best manager we could hope for under Ashley... he isn't anymore though.. That kind of wasn't my point, it was more: A. They should have had a plan in place as they knew it would have happened in the next 12 months or not at all. B. Money grabbing cunts like Fat Sam are the only managers that will be willing to take the team now until the end of the season and any decent manager will tell them to get to fuck because those guys want a challenge for the future. Especially considering we will be looking at players in January, so what's the point in signing a bunch of players to keep us in the league only for the "real" manager who takes over next season to then not want them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Doh'liver 219 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, sammynb said: Any manager worth their salt is going to tell you to get fucked for a "get us to the end of the season" job. Big Sam and cunts like that are happy to take those roles and the money but someone like Farve wants a chance to build something. Everyone knows how I feel about Rafa and I think the new owners fucked up by not putting him and his team on retainer/gardening leave, at least for 12 months, if they honestly still thought they were going to get the club. Their ability to have a plan in place is not looking good. I doubt very much if Rafa would be prepared to go on gardening leave for a year in the hope that the takeover would go through. Not realistic to expect PIF to commit to that extent either considering the politics they were up against. Let's be honest, how many people on here actually thought the takeover was definitely going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I thought it was definitely not going to happen if that helps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3508 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Alan Doh'liver said: I doubt very much if Rafa would be prepared to go on gardening leave for a year in the hope that the takeover would go through. Not realistic to expect PIF to commit to that extent either considering the politics they were up against. Let's be honest, how many people on here actually thought the takeover was definitely going to happen? Yeah I get that, regarding Rafa and the take over but they had a lot more info than us, so they must have known their chances - otherwise why would they have been so quick to complete the deal when if finally happened. And if they had more of an idea, they should have a plan on standby. Our understanding of where things were and their's should have been completely different, especially if they are as fastidious as they claim to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46022 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) The idea that a) they could just pay Rafa a manager's salary to stay out of work in case something happened, and b) Rafa would accept that arrangement, is nonsense. If the only way for the new management team to look competent in your eyes, was to enter into a fantasy business arrangement before they even became the new management team, they're on a hiding to nothing. Edited October 27, 2021 by Gemmill 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4856 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Koemans gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4856 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Come to think of it, that could be an attractive proposition for Ten Hag, which sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Andrew said: Come to think of it, that could be an attractive proposition for Ten Hag, which sucks. Xavi is the clear favourite for the job. Barca are just trying to get him out of his manager contract for the middle eastern team he's working at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11549 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Surely that's the chance Fat Sam has been waiting for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Bayern got smashed too. Everyone wants the job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Andrew said: Come to think of it, that could be an attractive proposition for Ten Hag, which sucks. I don't understand why it would be an attractive proposition for anyone right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4856 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: I don't understand why it would be an attractive proposition for anyone right now. Theyre still Barcelona, theyve still got great players and a top manager would always back themselves to do better than the last guy. Theyve got some exceptional youngsters as well as frenkie de jong who ten hag had playing better than any of his barca managers have been able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 They have good players but not on a par with what they've had for the last 15 years. Just like the Barcelona of the North I think most top managers would say 'I'd like the job but after the next guy has been in and done the shitty part'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Aren't they totally crippled with debt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 They certainly are the Stephen Hawking of the debt world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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