Andrew 4770 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, ohhh_yeah said: Wife beating gobshite spins words for bites. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) I’m not really sure how it’s Guardiola’s fault, I know he gets accused of overthinking at times, but they should have scored far more in the first leg, and lost because 2 goals in 2 minutes pushed them to extra time. I’d personally say more fault lay with the players if you’re being harsh and looking to point blame. Edited May 5, 2022 by Howay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11282 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Andrew said: Wife beating gobshite spins words for bites. Had to check you weren't talking about Delaney there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11282 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Howay said: I’m not really sure how it’s Guardiola’s fault, I know he gets accused of overthinking at times, but they should have scored far more in the first leg, and lost because 2 goals in 2 minutes pushed them to extra time. I’d personally say more fault lay with the players if you’re being harsh and looking to point blame. Should have replaced his left back - Pardiola would have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13873 Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 All Man City’s efforts are for nothing thanks to Yaya Toure’s curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20168 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I hope Benzema bums the fuck out of the scousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Howay said: I’m not really sure how it’s Guardiola’s fault, I know he gets accused of overthinking at times, but they should have scored far more in the first leg, and lost because 2 goals in 2 minutes pushed them to extra time. I’d personally say more fault lay with the players if you’re being harsh and looking to point blame. It's absolutely on the players, they just collapsed. Guardiola had set them up well, the game plan was working. That said, I do think club culture plays a part in this beyond just managers and players. Madrid very likely always believed that they could turn it around and go through, even in the dying minutes - because they've done it before and because they've won the damn thing so many times it could more or less be considered 'their' competition. City have never won it, they've never made it over the mental hurdles and each season that monkey will be on their backs. They don't have the weight of history to lean on that says they belong there, they remain pretenders to the throne as it were. I really do think stuff like that makes a difference, and that Guardiola - if he ever wins it for them - will consider getting them over that line to be the biggest success of his career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Howay said: I’m not really sure how it’s Guardiola’s fault, I know he gets accused of overthinking at times, but they should have scored far more in the first leg, and lost because 2 goals in 2 minutes pushed them to extra time. I’d personally say more fault lay with the players if you’re being harsh and looking to point blame. I don't know, if you look at that stat of Delaney's then it does seem to be a recurring thing. If you look at that tie in isolation you'd say that City should have won it easily and it's the players who didn't take their chances but when it keeps happening to the same manager he's the only common denominator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, ewerk said: I don't know, if you look at that stat of Delaney's then it does seem to be a recurring thing. If you look at that tie in isolation you'd say that City should have won it easily and it's the players who didn't take their chances but when it keeps happening to the same manager he's the only common denominator. I don't think that's wholly true, there'll be plenty of players there now who were their previously. I do think Rayvin is right about the mentality thing. The manner of the collapses isn't because Guardiola doesn't know how to see out games, he's done it plenty of times before. The manner of the collapse is because the players on the pitch see the finishing line and panic. Like when CT's on his way home and needs a piss, he's fine 5 minutes away, panics at the driveway, sweating as he puts the key to the lock, fumbles and gently sobs as the damp patch grows on his khaki capri pants. Again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 People can analyse it all they like but at the end of the day, Real really went for it in the last 15 minutes and got balls into the box. They were went marauding and got their rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, ewerk said: I don't know, if you look at that stat of Delaney's then it does seem to be a recurring thing. If you look at that tie in isolation you'd say that City should have won it easily and it's the players who didn't take their chances but when it keeps happening to the same manager he's the only common denominator. It’s a weird one, and maybe he was to blame for some of them but I just can’t see how he has the blame for conceding 2 in 2 minutes he has no real way of controlling that. The players absolutely had to play keep ball to settle down after conceding, but they immediately turned the ball over from the kick off - unless Guardiola was screaming at them to do that I’m not sure what he could have done to cause it. It’s possible he made subs or tactical changes in some of the others that led to collapses, I’m not an agenda driven little Manchester United glory hunter like Delaney so will defer to that sad little prick on that one but I just can’t blame Guardiola for his team collapsing against Madrid. His tactical set up absolutely leathered Madrid in the first leg as well, if the players could have took their chances they should have basically been out of sight anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Gemmill said: This lot are gonna be ripe for a fucking off Eddie's runaway sensations on Sunday. Pep to blow the league too. You heard it here first. One thing I'm convinced Sunday won't be is a draw. But given their calibre, I think they're more likely to come back from last night's defeat with a vengeance, rather than collapse. Obviously I hope I am completely wrong on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 22 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Craig said: One thing I'm convinced Sunday won't be is a draw. But given their calibre, I think they're more likely to come back from last night's defeat with a vengeance, rather than collapse. Obviously I hope I am completely wrong on that. I really hope you are wrong. I really dislike Pep. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Craig said: One thing I'm convinced Sunday won't be is a draw. But given their calibre, I think they're more likely to come back from last night's defeat with a vengeance, rather than collapse. Obviously I hope I am completely wrong on that. They'll batter us man. Without the CL, they've 'only' got the Premier League left. I'm convinced they'll go all guns blazing in every fixture, especially when their run in is us, Wolves, West Ham and Villa. Three teams with, realistically, fuck all to play for. Whereas Liverpool have the FA Cup, the Champions League and the PL on their plates. I think Spurs can stop Liverpool winning, but regardless of that result, I think Man City are going to win every fixture they've got left and with some style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13873 Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 Counterpoint: they'll be feeling sorry for themselves, Liverpool will win on Saturday night to heap the pressure on and Trippier is coming back to link up with Bruno down the right hand side. All other evidence of their ability is completely discounted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 773 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 I'm a City fan. Absolutely gutted about last night. And yes it hurts, But City are still living the dream. Dining at the top table (there's plenty of room on it for you guys) and taking part in some insane games. Went last week and we paid the price for not being clinical enough. Glad you guys stayed up. I always felt (well since January) that you would. Now that you're safe i don't suppose you could take it easy for the rest of the season. Yes i'm a City fan but i'm rooting for Chelsea in the FA Cup and Madrid in the CL. Right how else can i distract myself. ps There are some people saying that if we don't win the league that Pep should go but thats crazy, we'll probably end up of with 90+ points! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Speaking of which, where is the bloody match thread? @wykikitoon , pull your finger out you angry bastard! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20168 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Craig said: Speaking of which, where is the bloody match thread? @wykikitoon , pull your finger out you angry bastard! I lost the last game! Ok, let me think of a theme. The Auf Wieders has died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Ok, let me think of a theme. The Auf Wieders has died I was going to say The Likely Lads, then I remembered Bolam is a cunt …and a mackem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7031 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Fair fucks to Rangers this season 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20168 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said: Fair fucks to Rangers this season Better since Klopps replacement left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17281 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) BREAKING Team from err “pub league” wins two legged semi to get to Europa League final Edited May 5, 2022 by PaddockLad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1333 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: Fair fucks to Rangers this season Wild that they pulled that off last night with no strikers, all those early bookings and Aribo having to come off in the first half. Just seen that starting 11 last night cost them just £13.5m in transfer fees, £12m of that was just for Kent, Goldson and Barisic. Fair fucks indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 17 hours ago, LondonBlue said: I'm a City fan. Absolutely gutted about last night. And yes it hurts, But City are still living the dream. Dining at the top table (there's plenty of room on it for you guys) and taking part in some insane games. Went last week and we paid the price for not being clinical enough. Glad you guys stayed up. I always felt (well since January) that you would. Now that you're safe i don't suppose you could take it easy for the rest of the season. Yes i'm a City fan but i'm rooting for Chelsea in the FA Cup and Madrid in the CL. Right how else can i distract myself. ps There are some people saying that if we don't win the league that Pep should go but thats crazy, we'll probably end up of with 90+ points! I think I speak for most of us when I say we'd prefer Liverpool didn't win anything else this season. Guardiola is one of the best managers out there. These people wanting him gone because you only got the the semi-final of the Champions League... who are they expecting to come in and do better? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20168 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 They're just idiots tbh. Even if Klopp 'just' won the league cup this season I doubt the proper fans would want him gone. Pep is a superb manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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