Wor Al 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 (edited) Sort your quotes out Steve, mate! Edited March 6, 2006 by Omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Why do you have to invent stuff to get your point across? Who in their right mind (rather than tongue-in-cheek) reckoned Shepherd was deliberately trying to get us relegated in order to get the share price down? plenty of posts going around, I can't be arsed to dig them out but not surprisingly you must have missed them as you seem to miss most other things or not read them properly. Also, who has said that Shepherd is being judged purely on our not winning a trophy in his time here? You. As you are saying losing 2 Finals and playing in the Champions League is failure. Also, I don't see how not going for foreign coaches because Gullit was a failure is a sign of Shepherd learning from his mistakes. I would say it is, as he is thinking a more local man would have the interests of the club more to heart, pretty logical and basic thinking . More a stupid overreaction to things not working out in my opinion but if, again, I am to follow your logic, he should have known not to get Souness following Daglish on the basis getting a Scotman didn't work before. 103757[/snapback] Then he could have got Alex Ferguson which is just another example of your short sighted vision 103763[/snapback] In all seriousness, if thats what we're dealing with (and I'm not saying it is, but if we're going accept your version and invest FF with your views of him), then we SERIOUSLY need a new chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Sort your quotes out Steve, mate! 103765[/snapback] you're too late as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor Al 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 (edited) Sort your quotes out Steve, mate! 103765[/snapback] you're too late as usual 103768[/snapback] You've sorted them out then, Steve mate? Edited March 6, 2006 by Omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Why do you have to invent stuff to get your point across? Who in their right mind (rather than tongue-in-cheek) reckoned Shepherd was deliberately trying to get us relegated in order to get the share price down? plenty of posts going around, I can't be arsed to dig them out but not surprisingly you must have missed them as you seem to miss most other things or not read them properly. Also, who has said that Shepherd is being judged purely on our not winning a trophy in his time here? You. As you are saying losing 2 Finals and playing in the Champions League is failure. Also, I don't see how not going for foreign coaches because Gullit was a failure is a sign of Shepherd learning from his mistakes. I would say it is, as he is thinking a more local man would have the interests of the club more to heart, pretty logical and basic thinking . More a stupid overreaction to things not working out in my opinion but if, again, I am to follow your logic, he should have known not to get Souness following Daglish on the basis getting a Scotman didn't work before. 103757[/snapback] Then he could have got Alex Ferguson which is just another example of your short sighted vision 103763[/snapback] In all seriousness, if thats what we're dealing with (and I'm not saying it is, but if we're going accept your version and invest FF with your views of him), then we SERIOUSLY need a new chairman 103767[/snapback] Why not, if it makes you realise a mistake ? Thats the point. After all he did get it right with Robson, really the thing is it turned out that Gullit was a twat, and who was to know this beforehand when he had done a good job with Chelsea ? A lot of supporters were behind Gullit at the time too, and those who pretend now that they weren't are liars...but Gullit did admit that he had made his own mistakes and nothing to do with Fred who he went on record as saying he himself was to blame for the clubs bad results and no one else. Despite supporters oddly still blaming Shepherd for bad results, ie Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Why do you have to invent stuff to get your point across? Who in their right mind (rather than tongue-in-cheek) reckoned Shepherd was deliberately trying to get us relegated in order to get the share price down? plenty of posts going around, I can't be arsed to dig them out but not surprisingly you must have missed them as you seem to miss most other things or not read them properly. Also, who has said that Shepherd is being judged purely on our not winning a trophy in his time here? You. As you are saying losing 2 Finals and playing in the Champions League is failure. Also, I don't see how not going for foreign coaches because Gullit was a failure is a sign of Shepherd learning from his mistakes. I would say it is, as he is thinking a more local man would have the interests of the club more to heart, pretty logical and basic thinking, as most people are aware that the big problem he had with Gullit was that he fucked off over to Amsterdam too much and didn't work hard enough for the club More a stupid overreaction to things not working out in my opinion but if, again, I am to follow your logic, he should have known not to get Souness following Daglish on the basis getting a Scotman didn't work before. 103757[/snapback] Then he could have got Alex Ferguson which is just another example of your short sighted vision 103763[/snapback] On the first point, you may be right but I can't remember those posts but here's an idea, just answer stuff that people have posted fairly recently then you can't get accused of bullshit when you can't back it up with evidence. Next, I haven't said not winning the two cup finals plus getting in the Champions League was a failure, in reality though it isn't success either is it? As for the point about Gullit, if as a chairman your answer to having problems with a foreigner is to get the most local candidate possible you're stupid. However, I give Shepherd more credit than that, Robson was the best man available who would take the job. Lucky he was available though eh? As for the last point, I was employing your logic (or my interpretation of it), not mine. Ferguson's a GREAT © example though, we could easily have gotten him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Sort your quotes out Steve, mate! 103765[/snapback] you're too late as usual 103768[/snapback] You've sorted them out then, Steve mate? 103771[/snapback] Still counting the games I've been to Dino, have you finished counting yours already ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Despite supporters oddly still blaming Shepherd for bad results, ie Alex 103774[/snapback] More made up stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Sort your quotes out Steve, mate! 103765[/snapback] you're too late as usual 103768[/snapback] You've sorted them out then, Steve mate? 103771[/snapback] Still counting the games I've been to Dino, have you finished counting yours already ? 103776[/snapback] And when all else fails, pull the soopafan card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Why do you have to invent stuff to get your point across? Who in their right mind (rather than tongue-in-cheek) reckoned Shepherd was deliberately trying to get us relegated in order to get the share price down? plenty of posts going around, I can't be arsed to dig them out but not surprisingly you must have missed them as you seem to miss most other things or not read them properly. Also, who has said that Shepherd is being judged purely on our not winning a trophy in his time here? You. As you are saying losing 2 Finals and playing in the Champions League is failure. Also, I don't see how not going for foreign coaches because Gullit was a failure is a sign of Shepherd learning from his mistakes. I would say it is, as he is thinking a more local man would have the interests of the club more to heart, pretty logical and basic thinking . More a stupid overreaction to things not working out in my opinion but if, again, I am to follow your logic, he should have known not to get Souness following Daglish on the basis getting a Scotman didn't work before. 103757[/snapback] Then he could have got Alex Ferguson which is just another example of your short sighted vision 103763[/snapback] In all seriousness, if thats what we're dealing with (and I'm not saying it is, but if we're going accept your version and invest FF with your views of him), then we SERIOUSLY need a new chairman 103767[/snapback] Why not, if it makes you realise a mistake ? Thats the point. After all he did get it right with Robson, really the thing is it turned out that Gullit was a twat, and who was to know this beforehand when he had done a good job with Chelsea ? A lot of supporters were behind Gullit at the time too, and those who pretend now that they weren't are liars...but Gullit did admit that he had made his own mistakes and nothing to do with Fred who he went on record as saying he himself was to blame for the clubs bad results and no one else. Despite supporters oddly still blaming Shepherd for bad results, ie Alex 103774[/snapback] The reason why that logic is dreadful and fundementally flawed is that to employ that criterion is to minimise your pool of candidates beyond common sense or reason. Instead of looking at all managers in world football you end up restricting yourself to Geordies or a poor mans Geordie (Scots). Incidentally, you realise that paves the way for Steve Bruce dont you, now that Martin O' Neill is taking the mackems job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Why do you have to invent stuff to get your point across? Who in their right mind (rather than tongue-in-cheek) reckoned Shepherd was deliberately trying to get us relegated in order to get the share price down? plenty of posts going around, I can't be arsed to dig them out but not surprisingly you must have missed them as you seem to miss most other things or not read them properly. Also, who has said that Shepherd is being judged purely on our not winning a trophy in his time here? You. As you are saying losing 2 Finals and playing in the Champions League is failure. Also, I don't see how not going for foreign coaches because Gullit was a failure is a sign of Shepherd learning from his mistakes. I would say it is, as he is thinking a more local man would have the interests of the club more to heart, pretty logical and basic thinking, as most people are aware that the big problem he had with Gullit was that he fucked off over to Amsterdam too much and didn't work hard enough for the club More a stupid overreaction to things not working out in my opinion but if, again, I am to follow your logic, he should have known not to get Souness following Daglish on the basis getting a Scotman didn't work before. 103757[/snapback] Then he could have got Alex Ferguson which is just another example of your short sighted vision 103763[/snapback] On the first point, you may be right but I can't remember those posts but here's an idea, just answer stuff that people have posted fairly recently then you can't get accused of bullshit when you can't back it up with evidence. Next, I haven't said not winning the two cup finals plus getting in the Champions League was a failure, in reality though it isn't success either is it? Funny like but about 88 other clubs would consider it success, as we did ourselves for 22 years pre-Shepherd and the Halls...yet you don't. As for the point about Gullit, if as a chairman your answer to having problems with a foreigner is to get the most local candidate possible you're stupid. point explained above. And I think its just learning from mistakes no more no less, which is what the likes of you keep harping on about don't you, using the usual hindsight though However, I give Shepherd more credit than that, Robson was the best man available who would take the job. Lucky he was available though eh? More like unlucky he wasn't available a few years earlier when he was first choice...and had been waiting for another opportunity, but as usual don't let facts get in the way of you trying to prove Shepherd a "shit" chairman As for the last point, I was employing your logic (or my interpretation of it), not mine. Ferguson's a GREAT © example though, we could easily have gotten him 103775[/snapback] of course, shame he wasn't available BTW we nearly did once ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Truce Leazes? I think you're talking shite like but no doubt the felings mutual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Why do you have to invent stuff to get your point across? Who in their right mind (rather than tongue-in-cheek) reckoned Shepherd was deliberately trying to get us relegated in order to get the share price down? plenty of posts going around, I can't be arsed to dig them out but not surprisingly you must have missed them as you seem to miss most other things or not read them properly. Also, who has said that Shepherd is being judged purely on our not winning a trophy in his time here? You. As you are saying losing 2 Finals and playing in the Champions League is failure. Also, I don't see how not going for foreign coaches because Gullit was a failure is a sign of Shepherd learning from his mistakes. I would say it is, as he is thinking a more local man would have the interests of the club more to heart, pretty logical and basic thinking . More a stupid overreaction to things not working out in my opinion but if, again, I am to follow your logic, he should have known not to get Souness following Daglish on the basis getting a Scotman didn't work before. 103757[/snapback] Then he could have got Alex Ferguson which is just another example of your short sighted vision 103763[/snapback] In all seriousness, if thats what we're dealing with (and I'm not saying it is, but if we're going accept your version and invest FF with your views of him), then we SERIOUSLY need a new chairman 103767[/snapback] Why not, if it makes you realise a mistake ? Thats the point. After all he did get it right with Robson, really the thing is it turned out that Gullit was a twat, and who was to know this beforehand when he had done a good job with Chelsea ? A lot of supporters were behind Gullit at the time too, and those who pretend now that they weren't are liars...but Gullit did admit that he had made his own mistakes and nothing to do with Fred who he went on record as saying he himself was to blame for the clubs bad results and no one else. Despite supporters oddly still blaming Shepherd for bad results, ie Alex 103774[/snapback] The reason why that logic is dreadful and fundementally flawed is that to employ that criterion is to minimise your pool of candidates beyond common sense or reason. Instead of looking at all managers in world football you end up restricting yourself to Geordies or a poor mans Geordie (Scots). Incidentally, you realise that paves the way for Steve Bruce dont you, now that Martin O' Neill is taking the mackems job! 103781[/snapback] When it comes to the crunch, time is a healer, and he didn't though did he, and neither is he going to this time either BTW...mm...I do keep saying here that Shepherd isn't the major shareholder, he carries out the wishes of the board as a whole....which is why you shouldn't take too literally everything he says all the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Truce Leazes? I think you're talking shite like but no doubt the felings mutual. 103784[/snapback] I think you always do Alex regarding Fred and the board, particularly as you still don't answer the question about how being better than all those big city rivals is failure.....nor what you think they are not doing that you think they should, but what the hell its only a message board not like real life after all ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor Al 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I think you're talking shite when did ya work it out?! LeazesMag!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Truce Leazes? I think you're talking shite like but no doubt the felings mutual. 103784[/snapback] I think you always do Alex regarding Fred and the board, particularly as you still don't answer the question about how being better than all those big city rivals is failure.....nor what you think they are not doing that you think they should, but what the hell its only a message board not like real life after all ..... 103789[/snapback] Ok then, fuck it I tried like. 14th last season though, few big city rivals above us there and the season before too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 I think you're talking shite when did ya work it out?! LeazesMag!! 103791[/snapback] Who let him in ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor Al 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I think you're talking shite when did ya work it out?! LeazesMag!! 103791[/snapback] Who let him in ! 103793[/snapback] Superb stuff by soooopafan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Truce Leazes? I think you're talking shite like but no doubt the felings mutual. 103784[/snapback] I think you always do Alex regarding Fred and the board, particularly as you still don't answer the question about how being better than all those big city rivals is failure.....nor what you think they are not doing that you think they should, but what the hell its only a message board not like real life after all ..... 103789[/snapback] Ok then, fuck it I tried like. 14th last season though, few big city rivals above us there and the season before too. 103792[/snapback] Truce accepted Alex....... 2 crap positions due to Souness, and missing Craig Bellamy of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Truce Leazes? I think you're talking shite like but no doubt the felings mutual. 103784[/snapback] I think you always do Alex regarding Fred and the board, particularly as you still don't answer the question about how being better than all those big city rivals is failure.....nor what you think they are not doing that you think they should, but what the hell its only a message board not like real life after all ..... 103789[/snapback] Ok then, fuck it I tried like. 14th last season though, few big city rivals above us there and the season before too. 103792[/snapback] Truce accepted Alex....... 2 crap positions due to Souness, and missing Craig Bellamy of course 103795[/snapback] You tosser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 I think you're talking shite when did ya work it out?! LeazesMag!! 103791[/snapback] Who let him in ! 103793[/snapback] Superb stuff by soooopafan! 103794[/snapback] hadaway dino you're just jealous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 12 pages of drivel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor Al 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 (edited) Truce Leazes? I think you're talking shite like but no doubt the felings mutual. 103784[/snapback] I think you always do Alex regarding Fred and the board, particularly as you still don't answer the question about how being better than all those big city rivals is failure.....nor what you think they are not doing that you think they should, but what the hell its only a message board not like real life after all ..... 103789[/snapback] Ok then, fuck it I tried like. 14th last season though, few big city rivals above us there and the season before too. 103792[/snapback] Truce accepted Alex....... 2 crap positions due to Souness, and missing Craig Bellamy of course 103795[/snapback] You tosser 103796[/snapback] Edited March 6, 2006 by Omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Truce Leazes? I think you're talking shite like but no doubt the felings mutual. 103784[/snapback] I think you always do Alex regarding Fred and the board, particularly as you still don't answer the question about how being better than all those big city rivals is failure.....nor what you think they are not doing that you think they should, but what the hell its only a message board not like real life after all ..... 103789[/snapback] Ok then, fuck it I tried like. 14th last season though, few big city rivals above us there and the season before too. 103792[/snapback] Truce accepted Alex....... 2 crap positions due to Souness, and missing Craig Bellamy of course 103795[/snapback] You tosser 103796[/snapback] correct though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wor Al 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 12 pages of drivel 103799[/snapback] Well....it is a soooopfan thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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