Players Who Are Worse Than Joelinton?

[Meenzer 15526]

  

5 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

That makes two places I’ve never bothered with because I thought their name sounded a bit “meh” turn out to be amazing. 
The other one being Utrecht. 

 

Very fond memories of Utrecht, not least because it's where I watched the 5-1 with the Nolan hat-trick

[Chaser 1207]

Xisco/

 

 

Edited December 22, 2020 by Chaser

[RobinRobin 11268]

19 hours ago, sammynb said:

So pound for pound Joelinton is obviously worse than Owen but I'd say Owen was a worse player for us.

There are at least moment where big Joel looks like he is trying, Owen did not give a fuck and made it obvious how much he didn't want to be here.

 

 

There must have been someone else at the club smart enough to see the ruse?!??

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

On 22/12/2020 at 02:42, Kitman said:

I never heard about him during his time with us either tbf

Canny lad.Always friendly at the training ground.

[The Fish 10857]

Fucking scores of worse players than Joelinton. But nobody is going to set the world alight in Bruce's carnival of crap.

 

Maybe if we had the ball, played it on the floor, and created chances he wouldn't look as bad as he undoubtedly does. there's a bit of the JDT about his transfer for me.

[Alex 35079]

Except JDT was a second striker played as a centre-forward because of an injury crisis. Joelinton is a second striker / wide-man we signed specifically to play in the wrong position. 

[Howay 12496]

I think Joelinton has the potential to be decent, but he’s very very raw and lacks in some hard to train areas imo. I think a good coach could really bring him along (could say same about most though), as Nagelsmann getting decent production out of him at Hoffenheim shows to a degree. Bruce is a complete waste of space so he’s never going to develop Joelinton or as Alex says actually identify a role which maximizes his upsides, saying that though I can’t see us really having a coach good enough to properly improve him so it looks like he will just be shite here really. 
 

The bloke is clearly a good athlete, and with proper training on how to position himself and take contact he could be hard to push around. He’s shown some flashes on the ball, but they’re way too few and far between to be worth the errors he commits. The bloke tries, which I give him credit for especially in a team with the likes of lazy arses like Shelvey, but his ability on the ball is really lacking. Shame but as I say I can’t see us ever seeing much use from him, Bruce clearly can’t get much from him and then whenever it is Pulis or some other loser replaces Bruce they’ll get no use out of him neither. 

[RobinRobin 11268]

11 hours ago, Howay said:

He’s shown some flashes on the ball

To be fair, I think some (most?) of those are due to miscontrol in the first place.

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

7 hours ago, RobinRobin said:

To be fair, I think some (most?) of those are due to miscontrol in the first place.

His second touch is usually a tackle.Like JDT,he’s  been played in a number of positions.In fact every position other than keeper and defender.He’s usually contributed nowt in all those positions.If you put a centre half at fullback he’d contribute something.Put a right back at outside left and he’d contribute.If a player doesn’t want to contribute,then using the excuse that he’s being played out of position doesn’t wash.Early in the game against Brentford you knew Shelvey was fuckin on.You knew Lewis the Coward wasn’t going to stick close to his man.

I’m guessing Brucey is telling his fullback’s to tuck in when the opposition are building an attack,I get that,but what our fullback’s are doing,especially Lewis the Coward,is intentionally tucking too far in to give themselves no chance of getting wide to stop the cross.Watch how easy the opposition put crosses in.Very rarely do they have to rush the crosses in,which of course gives them time to look up and pick a player out.I’ve noticed Wilson is looking more and more disinterested when high balls are played up to him in the air from Darlow

Can anyone remember the free kick we were awarded early in the first half,wide-ish left 15 yards or so from their box.Lewis the Coward played it back to a midfielder.Not long after we had a throw in level with the 18 line. Lewis the Coward hoyed it back to a midfielder.Do we really have a team with enough quality to play ‘keep ball’ until we create an opening for a defence splitting pass?
Back to Big Joe from Linton near Ashington,if you don’t know.Seriously,have you watched or played with players better than him? 
Brucey has either lost control of the dressing room or he’s more clueless than any of us thought.He’s a lucky,lucky man that games are being played with no NUFC fans in the ground.His pals in the media are still defending him,Howey,Sinclair,John Anderson and Jordan to name a few but if the next few results expectedly go pear shaped,even they may start to say it the way it actually is.

[Ugly Mackems 133]

21 hours ago, Howay said:

I think Joelinton has the potential to be decent, but he’s very very raw and lacks in some hard to train areas imo. I think a good coach could really bring him along (could say same about most though), as Nagelsmann getting decent production out of him at Hoffenheim shows to a degree. Bruce is a complete waste of space so he’s never going to develop Joelinton or as Alex says actually identify a role which maximizes his upsides, saying that though I can’t see us really having a coach good enough to properly improve him so it looks like he will just be shite here really. 
 

The bloke is clearly a good athlete, and with proper training on how to position himself and take contact he could be hard to push around. He’s shown some flashes on the ball, but they’re way too few and far between to be worth the errors he commits. The bloke tries, which I give him credit for especially in a team with the likes of lazy arses like Shelvey, but his ability on the ball is really lacking. Shame but as I say I can’t see us ever seeing much use from him, Bruce clearly can’t get much from him and then whenever it is Pulis or some other loser replaces Bruce they’ll get no use out of him neither. 

Paul Daniels couldn't turn him into a footballer. He'll go down as the very worst signing we've ever made. (Fee and wage - not his fault) Probably! 

 

It HAS to be part of Steve Bruce T&C that he plays. I have zero doubt the rest of the squad know he's a fish out of water. 

Edited December 24, 2020 by Ugly Mackems

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

The players cannot be happy playing with him .Imagine looking up to play the ball forward to relieve the pressure and seeing Wilson marked and useless Joe not marked.They’d be be better off hoofing it well into the opponent’s half in the hope it goes out for a throw in.

[Alex 35079]

Aye, he’s the reason for the poor team spirit and lack of ideas, tactics and motivation 

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

Well he’s poor,no idea and cannot motivate himself so partly responsible.Of course Bruce is the main problem.I don’t think we’ve ever had a manager who’s looked so clueless on the touch line then sounded so clueless in front of the media.Come early January Ashley may have to consider Brucey’s position because it’s looking like another relegation fight will be on the cards.Will he trust him to spend any transfer kitty wisely.With this COVID carry on there may well be nee money to spend.If he has to sell before we buy there will be next to nowt in the transfer kitty,unless he sells Wilson.Clark and Wilson have been generally reliable.The Saint can add a spark,when he fancies it.Darlow has a serious error in him during most games.Fernandez can be canny at times.The rest???? From average to utter garbage.I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again,we have quite a few players who don’t give a fuck.

[Ugly Mackems 133]

Darlow has been ok. Would you want Dubravka back in when he's fit? 

[Dougle 3329]

2 hours ago, Ugly Mackems said:

Darlow has been ok. Would you want Dubravka back in when he's fit? 

 

Fuck Off.

[Ugly Mackems 133]

45 minutes ago, Dougle said:

 

Fuck Off.

You do well to sign in all things considered. 

[Alex 35079]

You’d do well to follow his advice 

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

20 hours ago, Ugly Mackems said:

Darlow has been ok. Would you want Dubravka back in when he's fit? 

I think they both have a mistake in them.I’d put Dubravka back in because he’s the better keeper.

[Ugly Mackems 133]

5 hours ago, essembeeofsunderland said:

I think they both have a mistake in them.I’d put Dubravka back in because he’s the better keeper.

I don't think Darlow's done anything to deserve being dropped. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894]

7 minutes ago, Ugly Mackems said:

I don't think Darlow's done anything to deserve being dropped. 

What’s his family like?

[Ugly Mackems 133]

2 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

What’s his family like?

I'll enquire next time we speak and I'll report back. 

[Alex 35079]

Like the the lovechild of Luke Edwards and William Storey 

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

19 hours ago, Ugly Mackems said:

I don't think Darlow's done anything to deserve being dropped. 

I wouldn’t be selecting Dubravka because Darlow has done something wrong.I believe Dubravka would improve us as a team.

[Ugly Mackems 133]

6 minutes ago, essembeeofsunderland said:

I wouldn’t be selecting Dubravka because Darlow has done something wrong.I believe Dubravka would improve us as a team.

He makes mistakes. Until Darlow has a dip in form I'd stick with him. 

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

He certainly does make mistakes and usually howlers.Close call mind.