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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

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None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

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I don't really understand what the argument is here ? OK Martin O'Neill might not be everyones choice as manager, but just because he's not your number 1 doesn't mean he's shit !

 

In my opinion 2 league cups with Leicester is over achievment, as is a UEFA Cup final with Celtic.

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I don't think he's "shit" - I just think he's a very similar level of manager as Souness - its a missed opportunity with FS's seemingly more open and flexible attitude to get someone really good imo.

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I don't really understand what the argument is here ? OK Martin O'Neill might not be everyones choice as manager, but just because he's not your number 1 doesn't mean he's shit !

 

In my opinion 2 league cups with Leicester is over achievment, as is a UEFA Cup final with Celtic.

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I don't think anyone's saying he's shit, I certainly don't. All I'm saying is that I can't understand why so many people are so excited about O'Neill - his track record is OK, but no more than that.

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

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Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

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Did he achieve more with Leicester than Allardyce with Bolton too then?

 

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Yes...

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In what sense? As far as I remember, as soon as everyone figured out their long ball game, they started to lose. O'Neill jumped ship when they were on the down. Or do I remember wrongly?

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You asked if he achieved more, winning two cups is..

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Finishing 9th, 8th, 5th and 12th with Leicester isn't too bad. Even if they were "on the down" at the end, always finishing midtable and above is overachieving IMHO.

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

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Well, would ManUre and the Scousers look for midtable positions if they signed O'Neill? Even if the rumours linking O'Neill with these clubs are the base of his reputation I do think it's not too bad to get linked with a manager those teams as well as England (allegedly) were/are interested. It shows they right ambition.

I would also prefer someone other, but think that out of the British names O'Neill would be the best choice.

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Did he achieve more with Leicester than Allardyce with Bolton too then?

 

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Yes...

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In what sense? As far as I remember, as soon as everyone figured out their long ball game, they started to lose. O'Neill jumped ship when they were on the down. Or do I remember wrongly?

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You asked if he achieved more, winning two cups is..

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Finishing 9th, 8th, 5th and 12th with Leicester isn't too bad. Even if they were "on the down" at the end, always finishing midtable and above is overachieving IMHO.

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

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Well, would ManUre and the Scousers look for midtable positions if they signed O'Neill? Even if the rumours linking O'Neill with these clubs are the base of his reputation I do think it's not too bad to get linked with a manager those teams as well as England (allegedly) were/are interested. It shows they right ambition.

I would also prefer someone other, but think that out of the British names O'Neill would be the best choice.

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I certainly don't disagree with that.

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Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

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I'd want him to be very clear on this - as I've said before even if she's fine (which I obviously hope) if it was me I'd want to enjoy life as much as possible with her and not work. If he wants to work then I want him to spell out the details if you like.

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

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Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

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Let me sum it up, I believe Martin O'Neill is one of several candidates that "could" take Newcastle United back to where we belong, I would be extatically happy with Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, I think O'Neill has the advantage of having managed in the English leagues.

 

it is purely my opinion, I am not trying to pass it off as fact.

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

I dont think anyone has stated that he would be better than the big name managers, i think most that are defending O Neill are replying to this statement..

 

He's been hyped up purely because he was linked with Man United and Liverpool.

 

And the fact that he has only done "ok" in his career...

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

Let me sum it up, I believe Martin O'Neill is one of several candidates that "could" take Newcastle United back to where we belong, I would be extatically happy with Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, I think O'Neill has the advantage of having managed in the English leagues.

 

it is purely my opinion, I am not trying to pass it off as fact.

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Would you take him over George Burley? :D

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Did he achieve more with Leicester than Allardyce with Bolton too then?

 

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Yes...

92777[/snapback]

 

In what sense? As far as I remember, as soon as everyone figured out their long ball game, they started to lose. O'Neill jumped ship when they were on the down. Or do I remember wrongly?

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You asked if he achieved more, winning two cups is..

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Finishing 9th, 8th, 5th and 12th with Leicester isn't too bad. Even if they were "on the down" at the end, always finishing midtable and above is overachieving IMHO.

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

Well, would ManUre and the Scousers look for midtable positions if they signed O'Neill? Even if the rumours linking O'Neill with these clubs are the base of his reputation I do think it's not too bad to get linked with a manager those teams as well as England (allegedly) were/are interested. It shows they right ambition.

I would also prefer someone other, but think that out of the British names O'Neill would be the best choice.

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I certainly don't disagree with that.

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The reason I was so "pro" Souness was that I thought he was the best of the available candidates (that FS considered). In those terms I'd support O'Neill as the best british candidate as you say but I think I'd regret the "missed" candidates.

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

I dont think anyone has stated that he would be better than the big name managers, i think most that are defending O Neill are replying to this statement..

 

He's been hyped up purely because he was linked with Man United and Liverpool.

 

And the fact that he has only done "ok" in his career...

92809[/snapback]

 

So basically he's someone we'd be happy with, but not first choice?

 

Are you stating that the fact that he was linked with Man United and Liverpool hasn't influenced fan opinion on him? :D

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

Let me sum it up, I believe Martin O'Neill is one of several candidates that "could" take Newcastle United back to where we belong, I would be extatically happy with Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, I think O'Neill has the advantage of having managed in the English leagues.

 

it is purely my opinion, I am not trying to pass it off as fact.

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Would you take him over George Burley? :D

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Yes, wouldn't you ? :(

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

I dont think anyone has stated that he would be better than the big name managers, i think most that are defending O Neill are replying to this statement..

 

He's been hyped up purely because he was linked with Man United and Liverpool.

 

And the fact that he has only done "ok" in his career...

92809[/snapback]

 

So basically he's someone we'd be happy with, but not first choice?

 

Are you stating that the fact that he was linked with Man United and Liverpool hasn't influenced fan opinion on him? :D

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To be honest i dont know who is my top choice i would be happy with any of Le Guen, Hitzfeld, Hiddink, O Neill, Allardyce etc people who i think have made each club they have been at progress and appear to me to have professionalism about them and a good coaching set up. I do however do not want to see the usual premiership dross like Moyes, Bruce etc..

 

That probably has influenced some however i imagine many also acknowledge what the man has achieved in the game, but your statement said that peoples opinions were based purely on that..

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Please say it isn't so....

 

 

I like the guy, he's like the Irish Woody Allen :D , he's intelligent and charismatic BUT I don't know how steely he is....I want someone who will do everything in their power to succeed here and with O'Neil's personal situation, plus his almost laid back character, I can't see him standing the heat. :(

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

I dont think anyone has stated that he would be better than the big name managers, i think most that are defending O Neill are replying to this statement..

 

He's been hyped up purely because he was linked with Man United and Liverpool.

 

And the fact that he has only done "ok" in his career...

92809[/snapback]

 

So basically he's someone we'd be happy with, but not first choice?

 

Are you stating that the fact that he was linked with Man United and Liverpool hasn't influenced fan opinion on him? :(

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To be honest i dont know who is my top choice i would be happy with any of Le Guen, Hitzfeld, Hiddink, O Neill, Allardyce etc people who i think have made each club they have been at progress and appear to me to have professionalism about them and a good coaching set up. I do however do not want to see the usual premiership dross like Moyes, Bruce etc..

 

That probably has influenced some however i imagine many also acknowledge what the man has achieved in the game, but your statement said that peoples opinions were based purely on that..

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No, I said he'd be "hyped up" because of that. I didn't say he was popular because of that. :D

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

I dont think anyone has stated that he would be better than the big name managers, i think most that are defending O Neill are replying to this statement..

 

He's been hyped up purely because he was linked with Man United and Liverpool.

 

And the fact that he has only done "ok" in his career...

92809[/snapback]

 

So basically he's someone we'd be happy with, but not first choice?

 

Are you stating that the fact that he was linked with Man United and Liverpool hasn't influenced fan opinion on him? :(

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To be honest i dont know who is my top choice i would be happy with any of Le Guen, Hitzfeld, Hiddink, O Neill, Allardyce etc people who i think have made each club they have been at progress and appear to me to have professionalism about them and a good coaching set up. I do however do not want to see the usual premiership dross like Moyes, Bruce etc..

 

That probably has influenced some however i imagine many also acknowledge what the man has achieved in the game, but your statement said that peoples opinions were based purely on that..

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No, I said he'd be "hyped up" because of that. I didn't say he was popular because of that. :D

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Fair dos i stand corrected on that

 

However the hype has been built on the success he has achieved, hence the reason hes been linked to the top jobs in the past

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

I dont think anyone has stated that he would be better than the big name managers, i think most that are defending O Neill are replying to this statement..

 

He's been hyped up purely because he was linked with Man United and Liverpool.

 

And the fact that he has only done "ok" in his career...

92809[/snapback]

 

So basically he's someone we'd be happy with, but not first choice?

 

Are you stating that the fact that he was linked with Man United and Liverpool hasn't influenced fan opinion on him? :(

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To be honest i dont know who is my top choice i would be happy with any of Le Guen, Hitzfeld, Hiddink, O Neill, Allardyce etc people who i think have made each club they have been at progress and appear to me to have professionalism about them and a good coaching set up. I do however do not want to see the usual premiership dross like Moyes, Bruce etc..

 

That probably has influenced some however i imagine many also acknowledge what the man has achieved in the game, but your statement said that peoples opinions were based purely on that..

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No, I said he'd be "hyped up" because of that. I didn't say he was popular because of that. :D

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Fair dos i stand corrected on that

 

However the hype has been built on the success he has achieved, hence the reason hes been linked to the top jobs in the past

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Was it just media speculation, or did Liverpool even consider him?

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

I dont think anyone has stated that he would be better than the big name managers, i think most that are defending O Neill are replying to this statement..

 

He's been hyped up purely because he was linked with Man United and Liverpool.

 

And the fact that he has only done "ok" in his career...

92809[/snapback]

 

So basically he's someone we'd be happy with, but not first choice?

 

Are you stating that the fact that he was linked with Man United and Liverpool hasn't influenced fan opinion on him? :(

92815[/snapback]

 

To be honest i dont know who is my top choice i would be happy with any of Le Guen, Hitzfeld, Hiddink, O Neill, Allardyce etc people who i think have made each club they have been at progress and appear to me to have professionalism about them and a good coaching set up. I do however do not want to see the usual premiership dross like Moyes, Bruce etc..

 

That probably has influenced some however i imagine many also acknowledge what the man has achieved in the game, but your statement said that peoples opinions were based purely on that..

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No, I said he'd be "hyped up" because of that. I didn't say he was popular because of that. :D

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Fair dos i stand corrected on that

 

However the hype has been built on the success he has achieved, hence the reason hes been linked to the top jobs in the past

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Was it just media speculation, or did Liverpool even consider him?

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Is this not another question like the one that was asked of where O'Neill would take us...

 

One i don't have the answer to and i doubt you do either?

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Fair enough. Would he be the man to take us to the level we all want to be at; or would we be looking to get midtable every season too?

92787[/snapback]

 

 

None of us can answer that, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

But looking back, and at previous managers success has been no guarantee at Newcastle has it ?

 

Dalglish won virtually every trophy there is to win as Liverpool manager, and Gullitt hadn't done to bad either, but both stank at Newcastle.

92792[/snapback]

 

Do you think he'd be better than Hitzfeld/Hiddink/Sven/Scolari, or are you just being more realistic?

 

Am I the only one who would be worried about his ability to keep his passion in the job? Obviously if this story is true then he doesn't feel he needs to look after his wife anymore....

92795[/snapback]

 

I dont think anyone has stated that he would be better than the big name managers, i think most that are defending O Neill are replying to this statement..

 

He's been hyped up purely because he was linked with Man United and Liverpool.

 

And the fact that he has only done "ok" in his career...

92809[/snapback]

 

So basically he's someone we'd be happy with, but not first choice?

 

Are you stating that the fact that he was linked with Man United and Liverpool hasn't influenced fan opinion on him? :(

92815[/snapback]

 

To be honest i dont know who is my top choice i would be happy with any of Le Guen, Hitzfeld, Hiddink, O Neill, Allardyce etc people who i think have made each club they have been at progress and appear to me to have professionalism about them and a good coaching set up. I do however do not want to see the usual premiership dross like Moyes, Bruce etc..

 

That probably has influenced some however i imagine many also acknowledge what the man has achieved in the game, but your statement said that peoples opinions were based purely on that..

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No, I said he'd be "hyped up" because of that. I didn't say he was popular because of that. :D

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Fair dos i stand corrected on that

 

However the hype has been built on the success he has achieved, hence the reason hes been linked to the top jobs in the past

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Was it just media speculation, or did Liverpool even consider him?

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He's linked with just about every Premiership vacancy isn't he ?

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Is this not another question like the one that was asked of where O'Neill would take us...

 

One i don't have the answer to and i doubt you do either?

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It was a genuine question. I can't remember if there were any news articles on Liverpool approaching him.

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Is this not another question like the one that was asked of where O'Neill would take us...

 

One i don't have the answer to and i doubt you do either?

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It was a genuine question. I can't remember if there were any news articles on Liverpool approaching him.

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I think he was linked but like Jimbo said he was linked with every vacancy going at some point, how much credibility any of thes reports had though is anyones guess..

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O'Neill has a remarkable knack of leaving clubs in a better state than he found them. Hitzfeld I doubt would touch NUFC with his worst enemies todger.

O'Neill wil move us onwards and upwards with 1st class coaching and a little touch of something he hasn't had at Celtic, Leicester and Wycombe - MONEY!

 

 

 

And the thought of Bellamy back at SJP!

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O'Neill has a remarkable knack of leaving clubs in a better state than he found them. Hitzfeld I doubt would touch NUFC with his worst enemies todger.

O'Neill wil move us onwards and upwards with 1st class coaching and a little touch of something he hasn't had at Celtic, Leicester and Wycombe - MONEY!

 

And the thought of Bellamy back at SJP!

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IF he brings his backroom staff in. Anyone know if they're in work at the moment?

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O'Neill has a remarkable knack of leaving clubs in a better state than he found them. Hitzfeld I doubt would touch NUFC with his worst enemies todger.

O'Neill wil move us onwards and upwards with 1st class coaching and a little touch of something he hasn't had at Celtic, Leicester and Wycombe - MONEY!

 

And the thought of Bellamy back at SJP!

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IF he brings his backroom staff in. Anyone know if they're in work at the moment?

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O'Neill works with the same coaches as far as I'm aware.

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