Christmas Tree 5222 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Currently got a 2014’ish Samsung LED which is great, but have passed some of the boredom looking at what the latest technology currently is. Anyone know if SD and HD content looks better or worse on a 4k TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 37181 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 15:49, Christmas Tree said: Currently got a 2014’ish Samsung LED which is great, but have passed some of the boredom looking at what the latest technology currently is. Anyone know if SD and HD content looks better or worse on a 4k TV? Expand For four grand it should look amazing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 45838 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 If you balance a cherry tomato on top of the tv, everything will look just that little bit better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23966 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 CT blatantly eyeing up a 32" one 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3260 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 16:06, Howmanheyman said: For four grand it should look amazing. Expand Four fucking grand ??? For a telly FFS ! I've never paid that for a car 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 45838 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 07/05/2020 at 19:03, Tdansmith said: Four fucking grand ??? For a telly FFS ! I've never paid that for a car Expand Life’s hard on the Boldon Breadline. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7826 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 SD is SD. Whether you watch it on a 720p telly, 1080p telly or 4K telly. The only thing that looks better on a 4K telly is 4K content. Of which there’s not a lot around currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 08/05/2020 at 21:52, Kid Dynamite said: SD is SD. Whether you watch it on a 720p telly, 1080p telly or 4K telly. The only thing that looks better on a 4K telly is 4K content. Of which there’s not a lot around currently Expand My question is whether SD or HD looks worse on a 4k telly because it has been “upscaled” / stretched, to fit the extra pixels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7826 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 You realise it would have taken you the same time to type that into google? https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5626412/sd-channels-looking-pants-on-a-4k-full-uhd-tv-can-resolution-be-altered-to-1080p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 07:28, Kid Dynamite said: You realise it would have taken you the same time to type that into google? https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5626412/sd-channels-looking-pants-on-a-4k-full-uhd-tv-can-resolution-be-altered-to-1080p Expand Cheers. Ive done loads of googling / YouTube reviews and it’s very confusing, which is why I was hoping to hear from someone who actually had one. Lots of places are selling them and have hundreds of 5 star reviews, with people raving about how good they are, yet there’s a few “expert” reviews on places like AVForums that categorically state non 4K sources will look worse on 4k than they do on non 4K TV’s. Obviously there’s very little 4K stuff from most broadcasters so I can’t quite understand how people are raving about 4K, if as the experts say, most of the stuff they are watching will look worse. Have you got 4K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7826 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 My tv isn’t 4K. I got a hand me down 65” flat screen because it didn’t fit in my in laws new house. SD looks a bit crap on it because of how big it is. My sister just wall mounted a 70” 4K tv and watching sky you can’t tell the difference between hers and mine. In all honesty, if your current telly looks ok and you don’t plan on buying loads of 4K Blu Rays, I would save your money. It will go bang one day and then you can buy a new one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 09:58, Ant said: I've a 4k, and buying another one end of the month, contemplated an ultra short throw projector but too expensive yet for a "just fancy one" purchase for me anyway. If you're buying a new TV they're is no reason not to get 4k, doing anything else would be fruitless, it'll be the standard, 8k is pointless yet and it'll move on before content is widely available (and I think the only real use of it is massive panels) Sky etc will look no worse upscaled really, There's also plenty of 4k content on netflix, prime, YouTube, bluray, games etc (assuming your kids are that age for xbox ps4 etc) If you're just looking to upgrade your TV for sake of it but buying the same size and not connecting it to anything 4k then I wouldn't bother until it either breaks or you're looking to use 4k/getting a different size. Hisense make good cheap 55"+ 4k panels, which is what my next one is likely to be, my other ones is a 50"Sony Expand Cheers. No nothing wrong with the TV we have, just fancied moving from 48” to 65”. Only thing the kids play is fortnite so not really an issue. Virtually everything else we watch is IPTV which is why I was worried about poorer sources looking worse when upscaled to a bigger telly. Im guessing that most Iptv sources are like Kodi, either 1080 or 720? If I could be sure they wouldn’t look worse then I would probably buy one, but the grief I will get if Chicago PD looks worse on a 65” TV will be hellish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33655 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 What size rooms do you people have that a 65 inch TV doesn’t look ridiculous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19355 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 65” & 70” TVs? I really don’t get it... We’ve got two Samsung 32” tellys both over a decade old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 10:38, ewerk said: What size rooms do you people have that a 65 inch TV doesn’t look ridiculous? Expand There’s science to it. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 There’s also a great tool on amazon and lots of online shops where you can actually look through your phone and view any size TV on the wall in your living room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37318 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 10:43, PaddockLad said: 65” & 70” TVs? I really don’t get it... We’ve got two Samsung 32” tellys both over a decade old Expand Little cocks tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 45838 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 10:58, Alex said: Little cocks tbh Expand And blind? Sure the two are linked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23966 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 All Amazon and Netflix original content is broadcast in 4K and looks awesome. SD looks shit on modern TVs. A 65” TV isn’t actually that big now because they have next no surrounding plastic frame these days. We replaced an old 37” plasma about 4 years ago with a 50 something inch 4K telly and they take up roughly the same wall space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7826 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 10:38, ewerk said: What size rooms do you people have that a 65 inch TV doesn’t look ridiculous? Expand Depends where you put it. My Sister has a fairly big sitting room with a huge fireplace the tv is wall mounted above. Its almost flush to the wall and doesn’t look out of place. She’s put another armchair in the corner and the room looks better imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24202 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 11:06, Dr Gloom said: All Amazon and Netflix original content is broadcast in 4K and looks awesome. SD looks shit on modern TVs. A 65” TV isn’t actually that big now because they have next no surrounding plastic frame these days. We replaced an old 37” plasma about 4 years ago with a 50 something inch 4K telly and they take up roughly the same wall space Expand I'm sorry but that's not true, a 65 inch telly is fucking massive. The bezel on my 10 year old Samsung is about 1cm. It works perfectly and the picture quality is superb. No idea what resolution it is, doesn't matter. I've a 4k TV in the other room and honestly I cant tell the difference between any of the input resolutions, or DVD or BluRay. The upscaling is perfect. Think mine are 44 inches. 65 inch is overkill, very few modern houses have view distance that would make sense. And in a typical room, very few of us middle aged duffers will have the visual acuity to get any benefit. Go ahead if you want the TV to dominate everything like, not for me. Incidentally, replacing perfectly good TVs for the sake of it? Talk about first world problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 11:36, Renton said: I'm sorry but that's not true, a 65 inch telly is fucking massive. The bezel on my 10 year old Samsung is about 1cm. It works perfectly and the picture quality is superb. No idea what resolution it is, doesn't matter. I've a 4k TV in the other room and honestly I cant tell the difference between any of the input resolutions, or DVD or BluRay. The upscaling is perfect. Think mine are 44 inches. 65 inch is overkill, very few modern houses have view distance that would make sense. And in a typical room, very few of us middle aged duffers will have the visual acuity to get any benefit. Go ahead if you want the TV to dominate everything like, not for me. Incidentally, replacing perfectly good TVs for the sake of it? Talk about first world problems! Expand Didn’t you replace a perfectly good window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24202 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 11:41, Christmas Tree said: Didn’t you replace a perfectly good window Expand Err, no. I had some horrible aluminium windows replaced with modern double glazed windows, including a lovely stained glass one, about 20 years ago and 3 houses ago. I've spanked loads of money away on pointless shit though, I admit. I won't be from now on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23966 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 11:36, Renton said: I'm sorry but that's not true, a 65 inch telly is fucking massive. The bezel on my 10 year old Samsung is about 1cm. It works perfectly and the picture quality is superb. No idea what resolution it is, doesn't matter. I've a 4k TV in the other room and honestly I cant tell the difference between any of the input resolutions, or DVD or BluRay. The upscaling is perfect. Think mine are 44 inches. 65 inch is overkill, very few modern houses have view distance that would make sense. And in a typical room, very few of us middle aged duffers will have the visual acuity to get any benefit. Go ahead if you want the TV to dominate everything like, not for me. Incidentally, replacing perfectly good TVs for the sake of it? Talk about first world problems! Expand We are going to have to agree to disagree. I upgraded TVs by about 20” and it took up barely any extra space on the wall and doesn’t feel like it dominates the room at all. You’re right about the first world problem though. We a house with a kitchen that doubles up as a second living room so we moved the old one in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 12:04, Dr Gloom said: We are going to have to agree to disagree. I upgraded TVs by about 20” and it took up barely any extra space on the wall and doesn’t feel like it dominates the room at all. You’re right about the first world problem though. We a house with a kitchen that doubles up as a second living room so we moved the old one in there Expand Our conservatory is the 2nd TV room and then there’s 3 kids so always rotation depending where you are in the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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