Gemmill 49967 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego21 2155 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Phoenix711 said: I suspect Dembele will not leave in January, be frozen out and then leave on a free in the Summer. He has astronomical wage demands for a player who can't be fit for 3 games in a row. Look at those injuries, hamstring is a big no for players who rely on pace. My worry is we pay £20m or something for him because he can be a "marquee" signing for the owners and put him on a huge wage. He's a much bigger risk than Gosen who I actually rate and would love here if he was fit. I told something similar a few weeks ago when there seemed to be real interest in him. Also, aside from all those injuries, he has a lot of problems in his lifestyle. Barcelona has sanctioned him many times because he stays playing the video game console until late at night, he has been late to train many times for that reason. They say that most of his injuries are because he ignores Barcelona's demands for rest that he has to keep at home and because he has very bad eating habits. PS: In my opinion, Dembélé will sign for PSG or Juventus with a very high signing bonus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49967 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 It's West Ham bidding for Carlos apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gemmill 49967 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Thanks, I look forward with increased vigour to us failing to meet his club's valuation. Edited January 20, 2022 by Gemmill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22871 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 'Hello, yes this is Amanda again. So you say the price is £30m? How about we offer you £7.5m now and increments of £100k per month for the next 2 years and then if we win back to back Champions Leagues we will pay £15m' 'Helllo? Hello?' 'Usually works with FM with the editor tool in use' 'Mehrdad, Mehrdad, tuppance needs a play as Mandy Pandy is not happy' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22871 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 We couldn't agree a fucking fee for Bosman at this moment in time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooner 243 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 i just don't understand PIF logic here, your investment is worth more playing in the PL. You gotta spend money to make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22871 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 They'll soon understand when we are down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 36720 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Brentford I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 299 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 You do, but we don't want to send a message that we can be fleeced. It is an investment fund, not a personal plaything (or that's what they'd say). If we start giving cash like this (e.g. 3.5mil loan fee , not "pay his wages" and 1.5 mil extra if he signs) - it sets a precedant.. Asking a loan fee + 100% wages for someone on a free in 6 months is a bit cheeky like. Perhaps, maybe... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22871 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I agree. But we are also in a position where we need players in. They know that too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19013 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Alex said: Brentford I reckon West Ham?... Ogbonna & some other CB injured for the season I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 36720 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, PaddockLad said: West Ham?... Ogbonna & some other CB injured for the season I think? I was taking the piss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19013 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alex said: I was taking the piss Oh ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, scoobos said: You do, but we don't want to send a message that we can be fleeced. It is an investment fund, not a personal plaything (or that's what they'd say). If we start giving cash like this (e.g. 3.5mil loan fee , not "pay his wages" and 1.5 mil extra if he signs) - it sets a precedant.. Asking a loan fee + 100% wages for someone on a free in 6 months is a bit cheeky like. Perhaps, maybe... Agreed on the point but we’re kind of over a barrel and have no leverage in any negotiation. It’s Manchester United’s last chance to get any money for him, the only thing they’d save is 6 months wages if they let him go for no fee + 100% wages which to them makes no difference. I understand people’s point that certain clubs might fold and be more open to sell nearer the end of the window as they really do want the money - but a lot of the ones we are going for seem happy enough to hold on until the summer window so I’m not sure if this tactic would make sense. Maybe it applies more to say Burnley who seem in real short term cash need, and we go and nick Tarkowski off them, but I think Sevilla are likely happy to hold onto Carlos until summer the same way Lille seem okay with waiting until the summer to sell Botman. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Howay 12496 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 What was the last offer £1.5m? Are we going to go up in £500k increments or maybe go with £100k increments until they accept or Stevie Geeeee comes out of nowhere with a £10m loan offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22871 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 It's fucking painful like. Easier when we knew we weren't going to sign anyone. It's Hobsons coice tbh. Even players 4th or 5th down the list that would still improve our squad like we will have to pay a premium. Like Howay says, we have fuck all leverage. It's a sellars market in Jan. Always has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Lingard in for Leeds would be a boost. Just give them the 3m man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polarboy 2317 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The Mail are reporting that it's Spurs who are the London based team after Carlos. The only things we have going for us is likely the fact that we can offer more wages, and are more advanced in discussions with Sevilla and the player. As bad as Spuds have been they can still boast Conte as manager, and have the advantage of being based in London which a lot of players see as attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 if conte fancies him maybe diego is wrong for once. sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11322 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I agree. But we are also in a position where we need players in. They know that too. Right, so it's a balancing act. They can't just wade into the window spaffing tens of millions around willynilly, if they do, they'll be overpaying for everyone forever. They'll also get fucked by FFP. So they have to weigh the cost/benefit of every transfer. Signing Diego Carlos for £80m will not guarantee survival, and it will mean that they'd be expected to pay millions more on Botman, on Zapata, on whomever else they're interested in. Every agent will be expecting phat percentages, every player will expect phat wages. Yes, we will have to pay more, but they shouldn't be idiotic just to pacify a panicky fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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