The Entirely Reasonable Potential Transfers Thread

[wykikitoon 20210]

29 minutes ago, Alex said:

I’m still open to any batshit crazy theories as to why it’s up there so often btw 

Same happens at most airports.  Happens a lot at LBA. Training incase they need to use it.

[wykikitoon 20210]

 

 

[wykikitoon 20210]

Ramsay? He's in London! 

[ewerk 30645]

3 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

 

Dominic Cummings going for an eye test?

[Howay 12496]

2 hours ago, Christmas Tree said:

Boring I’m afraid  

 

 

Cantwell to Newcastle confirmed?

[wykikitoon 20210]

 

 

[Gemmill 44967]

Left before the window even opened apparently. Weird cos he didn't join much before it opened. 

 

[Alex 35100]

15 hours ago, Isegrim said:

That’s looking as mobile as TOT

Turns quicker 

[wykikitoon 20210]

15 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Left before the window even opened apparently. Weird cos he didn't join much before it opened. 

 

A bit worrying really.  

[Gemmill 44967]

This Van De Beek lad. I know nothing about him, but they signed him for £40m from Ajax and he's desperate to get back into Holland's squad for the World Cup. Why are we not snapping their hands off for a loan deal to the end of the season? 

It's so low risk, potentially high reward. 

[wykikitoon 20210]

And whenever he's played hes looked decent

[Ken 119]

 

[Meenzer 15552]

Oops

[Polarboy 2311]

Gosens has played as a wing back/left back on a occasion in his career, but is predominantly a left winger, so that would line up with Howe saying he wants players with versatility. Gosens has an impressive record in Italy given he's not at one of the big teams over there. But perhaps Atalanta have come up in the world since I watched football Italia in the 90's 😂

Edited January 15, 2022 by Polarboy

[Toonpack 9455]

18 hours ago, Alex said:

I meant to ask you but I regularly see a military transport plane take off from (presumably) Newcastle airport before doing a few laps of north tyneside and landing again (again presumably). Any ideas on what that’s aal aboot? I saw it again this afternoon. It would’ve been fun to get Parky’s take, no doubt involving 5G chemtrails and the like 

In times of war the airport has a designation that makes it a military facility, all crews have to be familiar with the approach, that’s why you see a lot of military stuff going round and round as if landing/taking off. 
 

Was told that by a RAF person some years ago.

[Monkeys Fist 42465]

8 hours ago, Toonpack said:

In times of pandemic the airport has a designation that makes it a military facility, so they’re spraying the sheeple with the MRNA 5G Vax! 

Open your eyes- Baaaaaaaaaaa! 

[Andrew 4772]

8 hours ago, Polarboy said:

Gosens has played as a wing back/left back on a occasion in his career, but is predominantly a left winger, so that would line up with Howe saying he wants players with versatility. Gosens has an impressive record in Italy given he's not at one of the big teams over there. But perhaps Atalanta have come up in the world since I watched football Italia in the 90's 😂

They have a bit, last few years they've been top 3 in the league and have a reputation as one of the best-attacking sides to watch in serie a.

[Isegrim 9801]

9 hours ago, Polarboy said:

Gosens has played as a wing back/left back on a occasion in his career, but is predominantly a left winger, so that would line up with Howe saying he wants players with versatility. Gosens has an impressive record in Italy given he's not at one of the big teams over there. But perhaps Atalanta have come up in the world since I watched football Italia in the 90's 😂

He’s a left back.

He has also been injured for several months and will most likely be out for another couple of weeks at leadt.

He would be a great signing if he was fit but I think this rumour is rubbish.

[wykikitoon 20210]

I read that Martial wages were too much. I mean fuck me. Are we in a position to moan about wages? 

We are on the brink of relegation which will fuck us as we will have to have a massive overhaul and then do ot again on promotion. 

Spend it for fuck sake. 

[Phoenix711 26]

After that disappointing result against Watford, to cheer myself up I'm going to mention some players I want for Newcastle (we probably won't get a single one, but I can dream ok!). Prices are in euros (£1 = €1.2) because EPL clubs won't sell us anyone good. We have a €120m budget (£100m)- rumoured, don't know if its true. We have used €45m (£37.5m) on Trippier and Wood so have €75m (£62.5m) left.

 

My priorities on players are in this order: CB > DM > CM > CF > LB

 

Central Defender

Name: Sven Botman (22 yo)

Club: Lille

Cost: ~€55m

Why? One word. Lascelles. We need some steel at the back who can close out a 1 nil.

Botman is possibly a new Jaap Stam and could be our Kompany. Highly rated 22 yo Lille left footed CB with excellent physical ability (what Lascelle lacked today) and a brilliant passer. Main weakness is a lack of pace so would need to be partnered with someone quick or play a 3 man defence. I know we've tried to get him but we've offered €40m and they want €55m. You can see his stats in Ligue 1, he's a good passer and brings the ball out of defence.  https://fbref.com/en/players/ccce7025/Sven-Botman

 

Defensive Midfield

Name: Boubacar Kamara (22 yo)

Club: Marseille

Cost: ~€15m

Why? We need someone who can protect the back four. Too often teams go through us. We play Shelvey in front but the man is a sieve, full of holes. 

Kamara's contract expires in 6 months so would be "cheap" but he wants £150k/wk. He can play centre back, is right footed, quick and an excellent passer. He is 22 and plays for Marseille so the question is, could he justify so much money compared to say Trippier? Main issue is he's unproven in the EPL. He has excellent stats in the league though as one of the best passers and a good tackler. https://fbref.com/en/players/cc77354e/Boubacar-Kamara

 

Midfielder

Name: Bruno Guimares (24 yo)

Club: Lyon

Cost: ~€45m

Why? Two words. Sean Longstaff. Need someone who can tackle, protect, pressure and most important pass. Longstaff sadly has regressed and looks like a deer in headlights. 

He's wanted by Arsenal but thankfully Champions League teams are just monitoring. His best attribute is his passing, think De Bruyne through balls. Just watch some youtube videos. But he's not an Attacking midfielder, he plays a deep role and is an excellent tackler and ball pressurer. He is capable of winning the ball back and starting attacks, exactly what Shelvey is meant to do but hasn't. If he comes it will be for money but he still has his best years ahead of him. https://fbref.com/en/players/82518f62/Bruno-Guimaraes

 

Left Back

Name: Nicolas  Taglifico (29 yo)

Club: Ajax

Cost: ~€20m

Why? Dummett did a decent job and Lewis is making progress but neither offer an attacking threat. There's a reason why Maximin runs down the left with no overlap. 

He's a quality left back and can attack and defend. He's fallen out of favour at Ajax, behind Blind, so we may be able to pry him away. Just look at his stats over last 365 days, solid both in attack and defence. https://fbref.com/en/players/f0661424/Nicolas-Tagliafico

 

Striker

Name: Dusan Vlahovic (21 yo)

Club: Fiorentina

Cost: ~€80m

Why? We need goals. We can't expect to hold onto 1 nils and we have one of the lowest goal tallies. We are a team under pressure and if we go 2 nil up, we may actually win the game. Wood won't get us more than 5 and is a good impact sub.

Its between him and Schick for our "Marquee" signing and the main issue is the guy himself. Vlahovic wants to play in the champions league but only clubs like Tottenham and Arsenal are interested i.e not CL clubs. He has 18 months left and he is refusing to sign a new deal so Fiorentina want to cash out, they'll make more money now than the summer. Arsenal are trying to convince the guy but the stumbling blocks are:

1. He wants 300k/wk. 

2. £20m agency fees

3. Fiorentina want cash deal not instalments - poor Arsenal can only do instalments.

Apparently, after the transfer fee and wages, it works out to £150m (€180m) over 5 years! Is he worth that money? Probably not, after all that is Mo Salah/ Haaland territory and the guy isn't that good yet but is excellent. 17 goals in Serie A this season, good hold up play and an aerial threat. Can score from long range and can carry the ball. Main weakness is he is one footed (left) and positioning, he drops very deep to pick up the ball that he misses out on a lot of poacher goals. This guy is an outside chance and only because of the money but he is the best we can afford if he is willing to come. https://fbref.com/en/players/79443529/Dusan-Vlahovic

 

How I'd pay - note we are only allowed 2 loan signings or I would loan Botman and Taglifico too!:

Sven Botman = Transfer: Buy for €50m + €5m add ons (read, if we stay up)

Boubacar Kamara = Transfer: Buy for €15m

Nicolas Tagliafico = Transfer: Buy for €15m + €5m add ons (read, if we stay up)

Bruno Guimarres = Loan-to-buy: Loan fee of €15m + €30m in summer (read, if we stay up)

Dusan Vlahovic = Loan-to-buy: Loan fee of €20m + €60m in summer (read, if we stay up)

 

If Vlahovic is out of reach then try Schick who has 17 goals and is two footed and good in the air for €60m, cheaper than Vlahovic, again loan-to-buy with a hefty loan fee that would be subtracted from final buy fee.

The loan-to-buy can affectively give us a couple of world class players in form to stave off relegation. The problem with the Van Der Beeks is they are not what we need right now. Also loaning these players first, we can check if they're any good. No point in ending up with another Thauvin (who is classm only in France), we need a Laurent Robert! This is important because of FFP, we can't waste too much money or we'll be like Everton, £400m wasted on mid table mediocrity (e.g. Iwobi) and now can't spend anything for several windows.

 

So that's 50 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 20 = €115m. That means we should sell €40m in players (do we even have €40m in players! joke). We would need to sell for spaces anyway, so I would sell:

Longstaff - €6m (contract up in summer, Hello Benitez)

Gayle - €3m (championship club)

Almiron - €12m (Half what we paid for him but some club would take him at that value as he's still 27)

Kraft - €3m (Surplus to requirements, Swedish international, should be worth a few mil)

Clark - €1m (32, champions club would pick him up)

Total = €25m

 

That's a net spend of €115 - 25 = €90m. So €15m over the €75m we theoretically have left in this window but within margins for error especially for a marquee signing. I know that would mean Vlahovic and Guimarres would cost us €90m more in the next window (even more with add ons) but as it's a new financial year we still have some wiggle room for more players. Most importantly, there are several free transfers that might be available in the summer like Lingard (RW), Zakaria (DM), Onana (GK), Tarkowski (CB), Dembele (RW) that we can replace several of our weakness without spending too much. We can also try and unsettle players with 12 months left on their contract e.g. Gosen (LM) from Atlanta. 

 

So with those 5, my starting XI in a 4-1-2-3 would be:

                       Dubravka

Trippier     Schar          Botman        Taglifico

                       Kamara

          Guimarres           Joelinton

Fraser                                              Maximin

                        Vlahovic 

 

If Schar is a liability then put Kamara in the back 4 and Hayden back in the team as the DM. With Wilson back, play 4-4-2 with Maximin or Fraser replace by Joelinton out wide. In a 4-2-3-1, Kamara, Guimarres and Joelinton are excellent ball winners. While Kamara and Guimarres will look for the pass after winning the ball, Joelinton will carry it out of midfield. Maximin and Fraser are to create chances with support from Trippier and Taglifico who are good crossers.

 

Summer window I'd get 2 new wide men and a centre back. 

 

Anyway, that's my dream, writing this has made me a little less sad about the result today. Time is the best healer.

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Phoenix711

[spongebob toonpants 3997]

@diego @Fish there's a new sheriff in  town 

[MMXXVIII 1293]

24 minutes ago, Phoenix711 said:

After that disappointing result against Watford, to cheer myself up I'm going to mention some players I want for Newcastle (we probably won't get a single one, but I can dream ok!). Prices are in euros (£1 = €1.2) because EPL clubs won't sell us anyone good. We have a €120m budget (£100m)- rumoured, don't know if its true. We have used €45m (£37.5m) on Trippier and Wood so have €75m (£62.5m) left.

 

My priorities on players are in this order: CB > DM > CM > CF > LB

 

Central Defender

Name: Sven Botman (22 yo)

Club: Lille

Cost: ~€55m

Why? One word. Lascelles. We need some steel at the back who can close out a 1 nil.

Botman is possibly a new Jaap Stam and could be our Kompany. Highly rated 22 yo Lille left footed CB with excellent physical ability (what Lascelle lacked today) and a brilliant passer. Main weakness is a lack of pace so would need to be partnered with someone quick or play a 3 man defence. I know we've tried to get him but we've offered €40m and they want €55m. You can see his stats in Ligue 1, he's a good passer and brings the ball out of defence.  https://fbref.com/en/players/ccce7025/Sven-Botman

 

Defensive Midfield

Name: Boubacar Kamara (22 yo)

Club: Marseille

Cost: ~€15m

Why? We need someone who can protect the back four. Too often teams go through us. We play Shelvey in front but the man is a sieve, full of holes. 

Kamara's contract expires in 6 months so would be "cheap" but he wants £150k/wk. He can play centre back, is right footed, quick and an excellent passer. He is 22 and plays for Marseille so the question is, could he justify so much money compared to say Trippier? Main issue is he's unproven in the EPL. He has excellent stats in the league though as one of the best passers and a good tackler. https://fbref.com/en/players/cc77354e/Boubacar-Kamara

 

Midfielder

Name: Bruno Guimares (24 yo)

Club: Lyon

Cost: ~€45m

Why? Two words. Sean Longstaff. Need someone who can tackle, protect, pressure and most important pass. Longstaff sadly has regressed and looks like a deer in headlights. 

He's wanted by Arsenal but thankfully Champions League teams are just monitoring. His best attribute is his passing, think De Bruyne through balls. Just watch some youtube videos. But he's not an Attacking midfielder, he plays a deep role and is an excellent tackler and ball pressurer. He is capable of winning the ball back and starting attacks, exactly what Shelvey is meant to do but hasn't. If he comes it will be for money but he still has his best years ahead of him. https://fbref.com/en/players/82518f62/Bruno-Guimaraes

 

Left Back

Name: Nicolas  Taglifico (29 yo)

Club: Ajax

Cost: ~€20m

Why? Dummett did a decent job and Lewis is making progress but neither offer an attacking threat. There's a reason why Maximin runs down the left with no overlap. 

He's a quality left back and can attack and defend. He's fallen out of favour at Ajax, behind Blind, so we may be able to pry him away. Just look at his stats over last 365 days, solid both in attack and defence. https://fbref.com/en/players/f0661424/Nicolas-Tagliafico

 

Striker

Name: Dusan Vlahovic (21 yo)

Club: Fiorentina

Cost: ~€80m

Why? We need goals. We can't expect to hold onto 1 nils and we have one of the lowest goal tallies. We are a team under pressure and if we go 2 nil up, we may actually win the game. Wood won't get us more than 5 and is a good impact sub.

Its between him and Schick for our "Marquee" signing and the main issue is the guy himself. Vlahovic wants to play in the champions league but only clubs like Tottenham and Arsenal are interested i.e not CL clubs. He has 18 months left and he is refusing to sign a new deal so Fiorentina want to cash out, they'll make more money now than the summer. Arsenal are trying to convince the guy but the stumbling blocks are:

1. He wants 300k/wk. 

2. £20m agency fees

3. Fiorentina want cash deal not instalments - poor Arsenal can only do instalments.

Apparently, after the transfer fee and wages, it works out to £150m (€180m) over 5 years! Is he worth that money? Probably not, after all that is Mo Salah/ Haaland territory and the guy isn't that good yet but is excellent. 17 goals in Serie A this season, good hold up play and an aerial threat. Can score from long range and can carry the ball. Main weakness is he is one footed (left) and positioning, he drops very deep to pick up the ball that he misses out on a lot of poacher goals. This guy is an outside chance and only because of the money but he is the best we can afford if he is willing to come. https://fbref.com/en/players/79443529/Dusan-Vlahovic

 

How I'd pay - note we are only allowed 2 loan signings or I would loan Botman and Taglifico too!:

Sven Botman = Transfer: Buy for €50m + €5m add ons (read, if we stay up)

Boubacar Kamara = Transfer: Buy for €15m

Nicolas Tagliafico = Transfer: Buy for €15m + €5m add ons (read, if we stay up)

Bruno Guimarres = Loan-to-buy: Loan fee of €15m + €30m in summer (read, if we stay up)

Dusan Vlahovic = Loan-to-buy: Loan fee of €20m + €60m in summer (read, if we stay up)

 

If Vlahovic is out of reach then try Schick who has 17 goals and is two footed and good in the air for €60m, cheaper than Vlahovic, again loan-to-buy with a hefty loan fee that would be subtracted from final buy fee.

The loan-to-buy can affectively give us a couple of world class players in form to stave off relegation. The problem with the Van Der Beeks is they are not what we need right now. Also loaning these players first, we can check if they're any good. No point in ending up with another Thauvin (who is classm only in France), we need a Laurent Robert! This is important because of FFP, we can't waste too much money or we'll be like Everton, £400m wasted on mid table mediocrity (e.g. Iwobi) and now can't spend anything for several windows.

 

So that's 50 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 20 = €115m. That means we should sell €40m in players (do we even have €40m in players! joke). We would need to sell for spaces anyway, so I would sell:

Longstaff - €6m (contract up in summer, Hello Benitez)

Gayle - €3m (championship club)

Almiron - €12m (Half what we paid for him but some club would take him at that value as he's still 27)

Kraft - €3m (Surplus to requirements, Swedish international, should be worth a few mil)

Clark - €1m (32, champions club would pick him up)

Total = €25m

 

That's a net spend of €115 - 25 = €90m. So €15m over the €75m we theoretically have left in this window but within margins for error especially for a marquee signing. I know that would mean Vlahovic and Guimarres would cost us €90m more in the next window (even more with add ons) but as it's a new financial year we still have some wiggle room for more players. Most importantly, there are several free transfers that might be available in the summer like Lingard (RW), Zakaria (DM), Onana (GK), Tarkowski (CB), Dembele (RW) that we can replace several of our weakness without spending too much. We can also try and unsettle players with 12 months left on their contract e.g. Gosen (LM) from Atlanta. 

 

So with those 5, my starting XI in a 4-1-2-3 would be:

                       Dubravka

Trippier     Schar          Botman        Taglifico

                       Kamara

          Guimarres           Joelinton

Fraser                                              Maximin

                        Vlahovic 

 

If Schar is a liability then put Kamara in the back 4 and Hayden back in the team as the DM. With Wilson back, play 4-4-2 with Maximin or Fraser replace by Joelinton out wide. In a 4-2-3-1, Kamara, Guimarres and Joelinton are excellent ball winners. While Kamara and Guimarres will look for the pass after winning the ball, Joelinton will carry it out of midfield. Maximin and Fraser are to create chances with support from Trippier and Taglifico who are good crossers.

 

Summer window I'd get 2 new wide men and a centre back. 

 

Anyway, that's my dream, writing this has made me a little less sad about the result today. Time is the best healer.

 

Get some hoes.

[Polarboy 2311]

1 hour ago, Isegrim said:

He’s a left back.

He has also been injured for several months and will most likely be out for another couple of weeks at leadt.

He would be a great signing if he was fit but I think this rumour is rubbish.

I don't watch Atalanta as I've already said, but Transfermarkt have him down as only having played at left back a handful of times over the last few seasons. Maybe he plays left back for Germany. 

[wykikitoon 20210]

 

Pob wants out

[Isegrim 9801]

13 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

I don't watch Atalanta as I've already said, but Transfermarkt have him down as only having played at left back a handful of times over the last few seasons. Maybe he plays left back for Germany. 

He’s always played as a left back for Germany and that’s where he played for his club when he got called up for the first time. He might have played further up the field recently but J would still see him as a left back.

But he’s still injured anyway.