David Kelly 1224 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: I've seen some mixed info on this FFP stuff. So yeah a lot of people are gravitating to this 200m figure because that's the amount permitted as a loss over a three year period or something, but someone posted another video with a guy saying that we could more or less spend what we want since we're currently profitable. The logic I think was that if we front loaded the spending in year 1, the values of the players on the accounts would depreciate over 3 years and this would somehow modify our profitability. Not an accountant, don't totally get the argument, but is there any logic to that? The upshot was we could spend even up to 500m or so and still be fine. That guy was Simon Jordan so I wouldn't be taking that as gospel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I read today that the Saudis will buy them out of the sponsorship because gambling is illegal over there. They’re also making special shirts without the Fun 88 logo for the Saudi fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1224 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Well at least the Saudi fans won't all be playing number 4! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4716 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, trooper said: Chronicle saying Newcastle could spend £205 million in the January window without breaking the FFP rules We need a countdown clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchester33 11 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I've seen some mixed info on this FFP stuff. So yeah a lot of people are gravitating to this 200m figure because that's the amount permitted as a loss over a three year period or something, but someone posted another video with a guy saying that we could more or less spend what we want since we're currently profitable. The logic I think was that if we front loaded the spending in year 1, the values of the players on the accounts would depreciate over 3 years and this would somehow modify our profitability. Not an accountant, don't totally get the argument, but is there any logic to that? The upshot was we could spend even up to 500m or so and still be fine. Hey, as a City fan I know a fair bit about FFP lol. It's called amortisation and it essentially allows clubs to drag out the 'transfer value' over the course of the players contracts. For example, if you were to sign 5 players for £100m each and they all signed 5 year contracts, the year 1 value for FFP would be £100m, year 2 £100m, year 3 £100m and so on (assuming you didn't buy/sell any other players over that period). So all you'd have to do is balance £100m per year through player sales or increased commercial revenues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42250 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Manchester33 said: increased commercial revenues A 5 year, £500 million sponsorship deal with a new airline, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21873 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I hope they don’t try to rename the stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42250 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I can think of several million things that would help me get used to it, but I think they’re a bit wise to how sensitive that might be anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10823 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 08/10/2021 at 22:21, Chaser said: Karim Adeyemi and Aster Vranckx. Young, keen and eyed up by Liverpool and City. Immediate improvement over Gayle and Shelvey. someone's been trawling through the Football Manager wonderkids lists. On 09/10/2021 at 22:07, Kid Dynamite said: Realistic names for January? Players looking for a move to a bigger club or players not getting game time... GK - Pope LB/RB - Chilwell, Trippier CB - Tarkovski, Coady CM - K.Phillips, Ward-Prowse, Van der Beek, Ramsey, B.Kamara LW/RW- H.Barnes, Lingard, Zaha, Raphina CF- Toney, Jimenez, Ben Yedder, Icardi That this isn't a list of Unrealistic names for January is bonkers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1207 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 hours ago, The Fish said: someone's been trawling through the Football Manager wonderkids lists. That this isn't a list of Unrealistic names for January is bonkers. Have you seen the pair of them? Adeyemi is flying again this season and both are being eyed up by top clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nraider2 41 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 hours ago, Manchester33 said: Hey, as a City fan I know a fair bit about FFP lol. It's called amortisation and it essentially allows clubs to drag out the 'transfer value' over the course of the players contracts. For example, if you were to sign 5 players for £100m each and they all signed 5 year contracts, the year 1 value for FFP would be £100m, year 2 £100m, year 3 £100m and so on (assuming you didn't buy/sell any other players over that period). So all you'd have to do is balance £100m per year through player sales or increased commercial revenues. Absolute bollox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17186 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, t00nraider2 said: Absolute bollox Ooh...an expert speaks..tell us more 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13842 Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 Rodgers is currently the favourite with the bookies 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30438 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, t00nraider2 said: Absolute bollox 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21873 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, t00nraider2 said: Absolute bollox 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Tarkowski, Wijnaldum, Lingard and Lacazette is who I'd be going after in January. Burnley seem to want to cash in on Tarkowski with his contact running out, same for Lingard who could apparently go for 15m in January if he doesn't sign a contract, Wijnaldum isn't happy sitting on the bench at PSG and would instantly upgrade the quality of our midfield, and Lacazette could apparently leave in January with Inter the current favourites. All very decent players who are maybe just about gettable for us, given the current state of the club, if we throw enough money at it and have a decent manager in charge to convince them to come. Obviously Wijnaldum likely won't like the idea of the step back at this point in his career, but somebody like Lacazette seems just about mercenary enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11214 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 6 hours ago, t00nraider2 said: Absolute bollox Fuck's sake 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2960 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Osimhen, Umtiti, Nkunku, Adama Traore, Navas, and Tchouameni. The "O", Traore, and ASM. 🤑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4729 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Polarboy said: Tarkowski, Wijnaldum, Lingard and Lacazette is who I'd be going after in January. Burnley seem to want to cash in on Tarkowski with his contact running out, same for Lingard who could apparently go for 15m in January if he doesn't sign a contract, Wijnaldum isn't happy sitting on the bench at PSG and would instantly upgrade the quality of our midfield, and Lacazette could apparently leave in January with Inter the current favourites. All very decent players who are maybe just about gettable for us, given the current state of the club, if we throw enough money at it and have a decent manager in charge to convince them to come. Obviously Wijnaldum likely won't like the idea of the step back at this point in his career, but somebody like Lacazette seems just about mercenary enough. I feel like Lacazette is a busted flush in the PL at this point, would prefer to get players who have demonstrated in some way that they're on the way up than down. Tarkowski is a good shout and a good player, Lingard proved himself really impressively at West Ham last season, Wijnaldum can get to fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20027 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Wijnaldum is a greddy cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42250 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: Umtiti If we don’t buy him, I’m having a strop. I want comedy chants, ffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42250 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 10 hours ago, t00nraider2 said: Absolute bollox 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20027 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 11 hours ago, t00nraider2 said: Absolute bollox 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32950 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 11 hours ago, t00nraider2 said: Absolute bollox 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11332 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 13 hours ago, t00nraider2 said: Absolute bollox 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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