trooper 940 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 The British Medical Association has warned as many as 50,000 staff could be struck down with Covid and forced to self-isolate by Christmas Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30372 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44503 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 A clear majority of them with iPhones in their pockets as well. Piers Corbyn's Nokia will be in a drawer at home, like any daft old cunt's would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17124 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Just to be devil’s advocate here, does the TT Covid committee have any thoughts on this exchange, which seems to confirm the worst fears of the anti mask/lockdown/passport brigade?… FTR: Fraser Nelson, obviously, remains an Olympic standard cunt, regardless of his decent line of questioning here… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30372 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 13 hours ago, Meenzer said: This seems absolutely fine in a country where MPs get murdered by radicalised nutjobs every so often. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44503 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Just to be devil’s advocate here, does the TT Covid committee have any thoughts on this exchange, which seems to confirm the worst fears of the anti mask/lockdown/passport brigade?… FTR: Fraser Nelson, obviously, remains an Olympic standard cunt, regardless of his decent line of questioning here… That is interesting. I don't really know what to make of it, but it does seem odd that no consideration is given to the probability of each scenario occurring. The main thing I took from it was how long it took Nelson to understand the answer to his question though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44503 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 It would explain why previous modelling has been overly negative though. (I think that's the case anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Not appropriate to take Sage advice verbatim - Javid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30372 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 There’s no evidence that omicron is less virulent, is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Their brief is presumably to model based on set criteria including that Omicron matches the virulence of Delta. I mean why are they not also modelling for it being worse? We don't have the information yet on how bad it is and I doubt it will be a stretch for Sage to amend that projection once we do. I think the response he was given is reasonable. Why model a scenario that we have limited information about other than to pin it against existing conditions? What is the logic for us calling this overly negative when we simply don't know? Could we not also call it overly positive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, ewerk said: There’s no evidence that omicron is less virulent, is there? A few things I’ve been watching seem to state 2 things. 1. That they are not seeing anywhere near as many hospitalisations in SA as the last wave. However this could be down to the large amount of immunity built up in the previous wave. 2. The “Zoe” study that is run out of London and collates symptoms is recording quite a switch to mainly cold symptoms being reported. Again this is hopefully due to the vaccines / booster limiting the disease. I know government has to look at the bigger effects than just the health effects of the pandemic, but due to the looming effects there is going to be on NHS staff due to having to self isolate, I think a lockdown needs to happen to give them a chance. As Schools are already off and the public seem to be avoiding hospitality of their own accord, I can’t really see much point in delaying it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17124 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, ewerk said: There’s no evidence that omicron is less virulent, is there? Other than a Daily Mail article from the woman who discovered the varient in South Africa. Fuck knows a) what accurate data she could base that on seeing as she'd only just discovered it & b) how you can compare SA to UK in this context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 The thing that gets me is a couple of times this morning is been said that infections are probably much higher than the official figures. There's now talk of 2,000,000 infections a day by New year. If we get anywhere near that figure the NHS will be goosed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Sky News now picking up on the tweet @Gemmill shared the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44503 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I'm itk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 51 minutes ago, trooper said: the NHS will be goosed It already is. Merry Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21395 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: It already is. Merry Christmas It is. My Dad has been waiting a week in hospital for a diagnostic that would have once been a few hours wait. So that's £350 a day waiting whilst he actually deteriorates, because they're operating a skeleton service because so many are off with covid. Add this disruption to the past 2 years, how the fuck do we get out of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21395 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said: Sky News now picking up on the tweet @Gemmill shared the other day. Let's hope so. You have to be careful with in vitro research, but this does make sense and seems to match what's happened with other coronaviruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Anyone help me clarify something. Fist Jnr. had a positive PCR result on 26/10/21 and did 10 days self isolation following it. He’s just had a message from his Scout group saying that one of them who was at the Laserquest meeting had tested positive. The latest info I can find is that, since FJ is within 90 days of a positive result, he doesn’t need to test or isolate, since he’ll have immunity. Am I wishful thinking here, or is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32828 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 No idea? Took the youngest for a PCR at dinner time so could be no visiting grandparents again this year depending on result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44503 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I'm out for dinner tonight. I feel like Carlos Danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Anyone help me clarify something. Fist Jnr. had a positive PCR result on 26/10/21 and did 10 days self isolation following it. He’s just had a message from his Scout group saying that one of them who was at the Laserquest meeting had tested positive. The latest info I can find is that, since FJ is within 90 days of a positive result, he doesn’t need to test or isolate, since he’ll have immunity. Am I wishful thinking here, or is that correct? If he's under 18 he doesn't need to isolate anyway I think. Close contacts just need to do daily LFTs. Unlikely he will catch it twice in 2 months but the science seems a bit ropey on how quickly you can catch 2 different variants . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 18/12/2021 at 18:55, trooper said: Just back from the Metrocentre the majority weren't wearing masks. People wandering around not keeping their distance. The virus is going mental & people are wandering around like its disappeared. Its absolutely crazy. I went yesterday too. Easily 50% of people not in masks. All age groups too, just breathing right in your face as they push past you in a shop. Absolute fucking idiots the lot of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Cheers man. 👍 That’s the consensus I settled on after a bit of further digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44503 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 TT's most wanted is back from his meal already. I keeps it short and snappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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