Renton 22059 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Even in Liverpool though you can still go to the pub if you have a meal, you can still travel out the area. Feels like we are doing the bare minimum to me, if that. And as evidenced a lot of people don’t even think there is a problem any more because Vallance's projection hasn't been realised yet. 87 hospital deaths yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 “Hi mate can I have err soup of the day & 26 pints please” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43232 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 “ Lager soup or Bitter soup?” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35667 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Loudmouth soup 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22059 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Be interesting to see if Boris has got the bollocks to put the North East in tier 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46208 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Renton said: I'm not actively on Twitter so not able to respond to him, but since when does being an ICU doctor qualify you in mathematics or epidemiology? Viral spread is by definition exponential, not linear. It will always be exponential when R is above 1. But R is much lower than in March so will be flatter, might even appear linear if you force the data. I'd add another difference this time is regional variation, taking aggregated data of the country as a whole masks the issue happening in the North. You're a qualified accountant aren't you? I assumed you needed quite a good understanding of maths to do this? I'm certainly capable of reading a trend line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 17,234 more Covid-19 cases in UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22059 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I'm certainly capable of reading a trend line. Last rolling week average 373 deaths. This rolling week 573 deaths. The death rate appears to be doubling every 10 days or so. And its only mid October. Edited October 13, 2020 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22059 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Scotland have doubled their admissions in a week. The test positive rate is now a disturbing 17.2%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31238 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, trooper said: Be interesting to see if Boris has got the bollocks to put the North East in tier 3 I'm wondering if the reluctance for the government to include more areas in Tier 3 is because they'll have to pay 2/3 of the wages of the businesses close. I don't know if they have to foot the bill if the decision is made by local authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22059 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, ewerk said: I'm wondering if the reluctance for the government to include more areas in Tier 3 is because they'll have to pay 2/3 of the wages of the businesses close. I don't know if they have to foot the bill if the decision is made by local authorities. Its about money. LAs don't have the authority to impose tier levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly Mackems 134 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Isolating! 7 days done! 7 to go. Told on Friday by track and trace I'd been in contact with someone on the Tuesday who tested positive on the Friday! Got a negative test Friday night (testing was efficient mind) but still have to sit out for 14 days from point of contact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17749 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 hours ago, ewerk said: A short full lockdown is the only way to get this under control. Unfortunately the government is going to leave it far too late and we're going to end up with a longer lockdown than if we did it now. Just what Starmer has asked for....if Johnson ignores him & things get worse, Johnson looks like a cunt, if Johnson does it (round half term?) it was Starmer’s idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Just what Starmer has asked for....if Johnson ignores him & things get worse, Johnson looks like a cunt, if Johnson does it (round half term?) it was Starmer’s idea... I said a couple of weeks ago I thought Boris would gamble & try to get to half term before calling a National Lockdown. With these minutes from the SAGE meeting 3 weeks ago now made public. It really does look like Boris just pleases himself what he does. He should face a massive backlash now. Questions that need to be asked are. Did YOU choose to ignore the scientific advice ? Or did somebody tell you to ignore it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54528807 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17749 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, trooper said: I said a couple of weeks ago I thought Boris would gamble & try to get to half term before calling a National Lockdown. With these minutes from the SAGE meeting 3 weeks ago now made public. It really does look like Boris just pleases himself what he does. He should face a massive backlash now. Questions that need to be asked are. Did YOU choose to ignore the scientific advice ? Or did somebody tell you to ignore it ? Whitty said last night that these tiers wouldn’t work...so Johnson is literally not following the science... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43232 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Whitty said last night that these tiers wouldn’t work...so Johnson is literally not following the science... Tiers of a Clown. edit; the opening verse is very apt. “Now if there's a smile on my face It's only there trying to fool the public But when it comes down to fooling you Now, honey, that's quite a different subject” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22203 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Ugly Mackems said: Isolating! 7 days done! 7 to go. Told on Friday by track and trace I'd been in contact with someone on the Tuesday who tested positive on the Friday! Got a negative test Friday night (testing was efficient mind) but still have to sit out for 14 days from point of contact! Lunacy given you tested negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17749 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Lunacy given you tested negative. Two negative tests required apparently.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly Mackems 134 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, PaddockLad said: Two negative tests required apparently.... They phoned me yesterday and I asked if i tested again today would it clear me to go back. Nope, got to be 2 weeks from point of contact! Self employed so zero ££ for 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22203 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Sorry to hear that. It’s a shit situation for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4418 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 That's the key to it imo - too many people either self-employed or on shit wages with no sick pay are too reluctant to isolate. Should pay people living wage at least or even use hotels to house people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl 175 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Ugly Mackems said: They phoned me yesterday and I asked if i tested again today would it clear me to go back. Nope, got to be 2 weeks from point of contact! Self employed so zero ££ for 10 days. So what happens if you go back to work after 10 days and then contact someone again? Another 10 days off ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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