Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 This is why Johnson stopped showing these slides during the daily briefings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5187 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 How relevant is it to consider population in these figures? It's the oft cited response from the right, and I'm curious. I can see the argument that a great population effectively means greater susceptibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 It's obviously a factor. We're 21st in the world by population but rank second in the death toll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21404 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: How relevant is it to consider population in these figures? It's the oft cited response from the right, and I'm curious. I can see the argument that a great population effectively means greater susceptibility. Per capita measurements make more sense. I think if we apply that, we are comfortably the worst performing large country in the world. The caveat is that international comparisons are complicated by a host of factors such as population age distribution and density. We're not dissimilar to Germany in those respects, not a favourable comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I accept that London being the business centre and diverse, densely populated place it is is some differentiator but even allowing for that I still think it's shocking. I see Shapps whinging about full public transport after people are told to return to work - I'm not sure if they're genuinely ignorant of the world, willfully stupid or deliberately murderous. Probably a combination of all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 The FT's reporting this morning that the property market is set to reopen. So strangers are permitted to enter your home for a physical viewing but family members aren't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 London commuters following government instructions - what could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: The FT's reporting this morning that the property market is set to reopen. So strangers are permitted to enter your home for a physical viewing but family members aren't. It’s probably a fairly low risk activity to be fair if the viewers wear masks and gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: It’s probably a fairly low risk activity to be fair if the viewers wear masks and gloves. plus seeing family at home doesn't generate tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 the devolved administrations don't yet consider it low risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21404 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 You'd have to be pretty desperate to buy or sell at the moment. Fuck knows what the housing market will look like next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: the devolved administrations don't yet consider it low risk It is though. People view a house and walk through it, if they've PPE on then it shouldn't be a problem. People are likely to keep masks and gloves on visiting family, they're more likely to sit down and share cups, glasses etc. It's not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: It is though. People view a house and walk through it, if they've PPE on then it shouldn't be a problem. People are likely to keep masks and gloves on visiting family, they're more likely to sit down and share cups, glasses etc. It's not the same. you can't even see family in your front garden, according to the guidance. only one of them at a time. in the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21404 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I always make sure I have a dump when I view a house personally. Gotta make sure the soil pipes work okay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 i might put my house on the market so my brother can come over 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Renton said: I always make sure I have a dump when I view a house personally. Gotta make sure the soil pipes work okay. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: you can't even see family in your front garden, according to the guidance. only one of them at a time. in the park. Alright there, CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 i'm in no rush to see any of my family, tbh. just struck by the contradictions and confused messaging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32847 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i'm in no rush to see any of my family, tbh. just struck by the contradictions and confused messaging Heartless cunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7011 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: you can't even see family in your front garden, according to the guidance. only one of them at a time. in the park. Just get on the bus together. Sorted 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30385 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i'm in no rush to see any of my family, tbh. just struck by the contradictions and confused messaging It's not contradictory. It applies in a very, very limited situation. Allowing families to meet would mean a much larger movement of people and interactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, ewerk said: It's not contradictory. It applies in a very, very limited situation. Allowing families to meet would mean a much larger movement of people and interactions. it sounds like they're making it up as they go along to me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Heartless cunt. i've never talked to them more, thanks to zoom and facetime. sick of the sight of them tbh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 at least we're not the only ones owning the messaging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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