ewerk 30629 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: To focus minds on what we should do now. Nationalise care homes, build nightingale care homes, transfer all care staff to NHS status. Etc You can’t help but repeat their shitty Brexit sound bites, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30629 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Christmas Tree said: Because the new normal is going to need everyone, politicians, business, unions working together to create it. IMO And this is how dictatorships begin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4728 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, ewerk said: You can’t help but repeat their shitty Brexit sound bites, can you? :lol: I think it’s been around a bit longer than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 We’re all in this together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21937 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Renton said: Well we're fucked aren't we? We missed the chance to get the prevalence down to a level where we could contain or even eradicate this. This despite having several weeks advance knowledge over Italy and being an island. So now we can either have this half hearted lock down permanently until a technological solution is found, or just let it run riot and kill hundreds of thousands. Not all of whom will be old or sick. Every decision we have made has been wrong or too late. I fully expect this to continue and for this country to be a basket case come next election. And for the morons who inhabit it to continue to vote for these muppets Edited May 10, 2020 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Let’s just get the job done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21937 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, ewerk said: Why would we need to contemplate that? They were being guided by strange science in the first few weeks with the herd immunity nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3259 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21937 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 So is this the week we can finally say CT has given up this lurking lark and has reassumed his position as the board’s chief contrarian? We are the monkey on his back. The drug he can’t kick. That last slice of duck pizza he can’t resist even when his 32” belt is buckling and he knows he’s had enough. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30629 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: To focus minds on what we should do now. Nationalise care homes, build nightingale care homes, transfer all care staff to NHS status. Etc I think you just need to believe in Britain a bit more. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 @Christmas Tree Every “solution” you’ve vomited out here is a political one btw, I’d like to hear what your definition of a “moral solution” is, and how it differs from the political ones? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21632 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tdansmith said: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21632 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: To focus minds on what we should do now. Nationalise care homes, build nightingale care homes, transfer all care staff to NHS status. Etc I like your thinking CT, socialism through nationalisation, we could maybe call this National Socialism? Put the elderly in large prefabricated care warehouses, for their own protection. We will need to focus our minds on this problem, but at the same time we need to keep it fun, like a camping trip for Grandma. Perhaps call these new structures concentration camps? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 How have we come to CT now advocating for mass nationalisation? Why is it that socialism and "radical left wing" views are now the answer? It's as if there's a magic money tree after all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Let’s just get the job done. Ignorance is strength 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) I think I would put it this way anyway, in answer to that point about nationalisation - either the Tories have been lying for a decade about the money available and how "it would be nice to make things better but we can't afford it" and CT has been very aware of this, or he's going to have to accept that we have no alternative but to throw the elderly to the wolves because there's just no money to do anything about it. Same as the homeless before them, young people from disadvantaged backgrounds before them, domestic violence victims, mental health sufferers, the disabled, and anyone who happened to have a bad run of luck. They've been dying for a fucking decade, so why is now the time when we have money to be able to make a stand? Edited May 10, 2020 by Rayvin 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I think what CT is trying to say is that us lot are missing the mood of the country. We don’t want blame, we don’t want argument as if this were a General Election, we want a contribution to the national effort to get us out of this crisis. We want hope optimism and faith in our country. We need less negativity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yeah my goodwill for this country and government is long fucking spent tbh. You don't fuck over half the country with transparent lies and political game playing and then get to turn around and expect solidarity with the regime responsible. Appreciate that others may be more forgiving than me, but I firmly believe forgiveness requires acceptance of fault - and that has been the farthest thing from forthcoming. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alex said: I think what CT is trying to say is that us lot are missing the mood of the country. We don’t want blame, we don’t want argument as if this were a General Election, we want a contribution to the national effort to get us out of this crisis. We want hope optimism and faith in our country. We need less negativity. And bunting. Don’t forget the bunting. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Yeah my goodwill for this country and government is long fucking spent tbh. You don't fuck over half the country with transparent lies and political game playing and then get to turn around and expect solidarity with the regime responsible. Appreciate that others may be more forgiving than me, but I firmly believe forgiveness requires acceptance of fault - and that has been the farthest thing from forthcoming. There wasn’t a fucking hint of compromise when it came to Brexit. Now we’re all supposed to shut the fuck up and not ‘politicise’ this because of inconvenient truths like governmental incompetence leading to one of the worst death rates in the world even though we had more warning than many countries. This government and the stupid drones who continue to support it can fuck off and die Edited May 10, 2020 by Alex 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33266 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ewerk said: I think they are largely still being guided by the science but it’s their communications, implementation and messaging that have been fucking awful. They are being guided by the science, it's just that half of the cunts can't read a map and the other half don't want to listen to the guide. As for poor old CT, all he ever wanted to do was talk about his beloved Tory party and cuddly Mike but people kept bringing politics and two relegations up, I mean, isn't that what a forum's for? Edited May 10, 2020 by Howmanheyman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21632 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 The stupid twats with their Eton educations and Oxbridge PPE degrees didn't fucking understand what exponential meant. It's that simple. Cost us thousands of lives and probably trillions of pounds. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 The only way to fight Covid. https://mobile.twitter.com/vizjourno/status/1259189791150800899 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 There was a piece on the bbc a while back where there was an armed militia in America who were ‘prepared’ for a breakdown in society in the wake of covid-19 where they would be the ones who had restore order and save everyone from marauding looters etc. You could tell the fuckwits were actually hoping it was going to happen and were excited at the prospect. Apart from it making no sense in relation to the actual situation unfolding it’s the sort of fantasy that you might expect from a 7 year old playing soldiers rather than something a load of grown men were pinning their hopes on. Now it turns out everyone just stayed at home and they didn’t get the chance to shoot loads of people they’ve taken to protesting in support of ‘freedom’. If they were black they’d all be shot dead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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