Dr Gloom 21861 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, ewerk said: I’m a master of many trades. I’m not saying it’s going to be an instant recovery but we are well positioned to recover reasonably quickly. The banks are in a fairly strong position, people aren’t losing their homes, jobs are on furlough not disappeared. Some businesses won’t survive but for the majority it will be like turning the lights on again after a period in pitch black. the IMF thinks we're heading for a 1930s style depression and some commentators think their growth estimates are optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 i said it before but 2008 is going to look like nothing compared to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19986 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 There was a economics dude on the TV t'other day and he said it wasn't close to the 30s depression and said we aren't in a great place and the rest of the year will be a struggle but he was expecting once things re-open things should start to gain confidence etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17130 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i just watched the price collapse over 100% minute by minute. not going to forget that in a hurry. The winter nights must just fly by round your gaff Gloom 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: There was a economics dude on the TV t'other day and he said it wasn't close to the 30s depression and said we aren't in a great place and the rest of the year will be a struggle but he was expecting once things re-open things should start to gain confidence etc. if things reopen in June and life goes back to normal then, which i think is wildly optimistic, i agree with that prediction. if life continues like this for a year or more, then we are looking at a global depression - because, like renton said, this time it really is a global crisis - unlike 2008, when China recovered quickly, with growth of 9% powering recovery in commodities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19986 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: if things reopen in June and life goes back to normal then, which i think is wildly optimistic, i agree with that prediction. if life continues like this for a year or more, then we are looking at a global depression - because, like renton said, this time it really is a global crisis - unlike 2008, when China recovered quickly, with growth of 9% powering recovery in commodities. Oh aye, I think that's fair to say. At the moment the situation is fluid and nobody knows at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21861 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 i'm going full gloom here but the political consequences of this crisis lasting until late 2021 are wildly unpredictable. we would almost certainly see social unrest, and who knows what kind of political landscape? hitler would never have won power without the great depression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42149 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I’ve been saying it for a while now, man the barricades comrades. Bloody revolution is coming, and I quite fancy our side to come out swinging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19986 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 The amount of support you read about though for the Tories on social media is mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7011 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Renton said: I fundamentally disagree. Problem is this is global, every country in the world will go into recession at the same time. There will be very little demand to drive recovery. Already the average family are down £500 a month. Certain sectors are facing oblivion. In fact maybe most. Tourism and leisure, honestly think it may take a decade to get back. Retail, construction, a lot of manufacturing. Then add Brexit on top. Yipee. Edited April 20, 2020 by Kid Dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: fucking hell - these are not normal times. Mike Ashley looks like he might finally sell the club so I am inclined to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Gloom 21861 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: The winter nights must just fly by round your gaff Gloom it happened in less than an hour tbh. i've seen less enthralling netflix dramas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: you can now buy a barrel of oil for a penny @Christmas Tree New hobby? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: i just watched the price collapse over 100% minute by minute. not going to forget that in a hurry. Do one of your jigsaws to try and recapture the excitement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7011 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 The share prices are for US oil apparently. The Saudi’s are still filthy rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said: The share prices are for US oil apparently. The Saudi’s are still filthy rich Maybe this is where Texas finally turns on Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44539 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 In short, someone at the department of health has created a bunch of fake NHS staff twitter accounts and is posting in defence of the govt. Read the thread. This is fucking outrageous behaviour by a government that is completely out of control. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4723 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 They've set up a standard response to anyone RTing that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5187 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Andrew said: They've set up a standard response to anyone RTing that thread. Who do we trust on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5187 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Well it looks like it's not the government based on the way this is snowballing. Utterly disgusting. Actually using pictures of NHS staff without their permission as well. It is indeed out of control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4723 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Who do we trust on this? Is that even a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5187 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) It's an unverified Twitter user so always worth a bit of skepticism. Obviously I would never trust the government, they've got form, I get that, but still.. This is a huge accusation. Edited April 20, 2020 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Yeah but dismiss as fake news. There aren't any consequences for lying anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13840 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Thank god we have this lot in to continue to do a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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