Coronavirus

[The Fish 10858]

3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

well, apart from that, what did vaccines ever do for us? 

 

Not a lot

The Vaccines - If You Wanna (Official Video) - YouTube

[Renton 21632]

1 hour ago, spongebob toonpants said:

Well apart from measles mumps rubella tetanus  polio meningitis sepsis diphtheria and whooping cough.

 

And HPV most recently saving lots of lives.

https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2021/11/03/the-power-of-science-hpv-vaccine-proven-to-dramatically-reduce-cervical-cancer/

 

But apart from those, what have vaccines done for us? 

[Asprilla 96]

2 hours ago, Alex said:

Tells you what’s not a good mix, being really weird and dull as fuck 

Ok Mr DYNAMITE!! 🧨🚀 

[Asprilla 96]

2 hours ago, Alex said:

There’ll always be something. Before covid it was pizzagate, before that 9/11, before that alien cover ups, etc. Unlikely he’ll have the same audience though 

The Epstein /Maxwell case shows that there was at least something to pizzagate

[Asprilla 96]

1 hour ago, spongebob toonpants said:

Well apart from measles mumps rubella tetanus  polio meningitis sepsis diphtheria and whooping cough.

I said on this scale.

 

i already told you that me and my family are vaccinated against those things so drop the anti vax bollocks

 

Those diseases also don’t mutate at the same speed if at all

[Rayvin 5223]

Not sure about that... Epstein was convicted in 2008. Pizzagate kicked off in 2016.

 

Pizzagate believed in a hidden code in emails released by wikileaks or something. Granted, what went on with Epstein could have formed the basis for why they thought this was possible, but that doesn't mean they uncovered anything that hadn't already been known for almost a decade by that point.

 

Unless I'm mistaken anyway.

[Gemmill 44931]

5 minutes ago, Asprilla said:

The Epstein /Maxwell case shows that there was at least something to pizzagate

 

No it doesn't.

 

Serious question, are you a QAnon follower? 

[Alex 35095]

i think he’s just looking for bites tbh

[Asprilla 96]

Just now, Rayvin said:

Not sure about that... Epstein was convicted in 2008. Pizzagate kicked off in 2016.

 

Pizzagate believed in a hidden code in emails released by wikileaks or something. Granted, what went on with Epstein could have formed the basis for why they thought this was possible, but that doesn't mean they uncovered anything that hadn't already been known for almost a decade by that point.

 

Unless I'm mistaken anyway.

I don’t think the Clinton/Gates etc connection was made until more recently?

 

The pizzagate thing is a bit weird if you read it tbf

 

but in any case to dismiss anything outside of the msm narrative on the world doesn’t seem any smarter than believing it all

[Meenzer 15550]

1 minute ago, Alex said:

i think he’s just looking for bites tbh

 

Coincidentally also my main criterion when it comes to pizza!

[Asprilla 96]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

No it doesn't.

 

Serious question, are you a QAnon follower? 

There are stories that bubble under the surface in conspiracy land and some of them turn out to have a basis in fact

 

at the start of the pandemic any question of it being a man made virus was dismissed as conspiracy whereas now there is at least some msm acceptance that it may be true

[Gemmill 44931]

Well that certainly wasn't a no. 

[Asprilla 96]

And no I’m not a qanon follower

 

i wasn’t even that sure what it was all supposed to be about when I read up on it

[Rayvin 5223]

Yes but that acceptance comes from evidence from specialists, not just people making uninformed, speculative guesses. If a kid does some maths equation and gets the right answer through the wrong process, they're still wrong.

 

The process matters, evidence matters.

[Asprilla 96]

Just now, Rayvin said:

Yes but that acceptance comes from evidence from specialists, not just people making uninformed, speculative guesses. If a kid does some maths equation and gets the right answer through the wrong process, they're still wrong.

 

The process matters, evidence matters.

I get that which is why delving off road for news is so dodgy

 

but there are too many examples of omission or dishonesty from the msm to not be open minded to it

 

if you think of how much power big tech has over us and now big pharma I don’t know that we’re better off just accepting everything at face value

[Rayvin 5223]

5 minutes ago, Asprilla said:

I don’t think the Clinton/Gates etc connection was made until more recently?

 

The pizzagate thing is a bit weird if you read it tbf

 

but in any case to dismiss anything outside of the msm narrative on the world doesn’t seem any smarter than believing it all

 

Can't speak to that first point I guess, I just don't know.

 

If you ask Gloom, there isn't much love for the MSM on here - especially from me   But that tends to be because I think they make speculative, evidence free judgements about situations. I still completely trust experts and specialists though.

[Rayvin 5223]

Totally agree about the media, but that doesn't mean we can just run off in the other direction - it means we have a duty to understand the truth through credible evidence. For me, credible evidence at least as far as pandemics go, starts and ends in academia (and data).

[Asprilla 96]

10 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Totally agree about the media, but that doesn't mean we can just run off in the other direction - it means we have a duty to understand the truth through credible evidence. For me, credible evidence at least as far as pandemics go, starts and ends in academia (and data).

I don’t know if you follow the dark horse podcast but they are two former biology professors who are less than complimentary about how “clean” scientific data has become

[Asprilla 96]

1 hour ago, Howmanheyman said:

Genuine observation.....

 

In two or so days you've come across as the pub bore who wants a debate who nobody can be arsed with. Obviously it's different online and not exactly the same but it's the same vibe you're giving off. I don't think anyone is pro-vaccine on here just as I'm not pro-any medication that's been recommended to me by the medical profession it's just one those things you get on with without going down a rabbit hole. You've made your points, had more than enough replies yet you're still going on about it, still being the turd that won't flush. I won't even answer your question if you can call it a question, about writing off people but I'd just say based on your views you'd be tolerated on here and just have a bit piss taking going on now again if you had some redeeming features (® Ronny Gill) just as CT'S had it with both barrels in the past but has something about him where we just can get on with him and have a laugh when we can. You could be like that as well but not going on like this. Just to be clear to you, there'll be no back and forths on this post. Fuck that.

I’m pretty funny in real life but I suppose you don’t tend to shine when you’re arguing with multiple people about things you completely disagree on.

[NJS 4389]

17 minutes ago, Asprilla said:

I said on this scale.

 

i already told you that me and my family are vaccinated against those things so drop the anti vax bollocks

 

Those diseases also don’t mutate at the same speed if at all

I reckon more people in the UK will have had one or more of those than have had a covid vaccination so the scale is larger. 

 

Also the effects of the of the near eradication of polio and TB are triumphs. 

 

[Gemmill 44931]

11 minutes ago, Asprilla said:

I’m pretty funny in real life but I suppose you don’t tend to shine when you’re arguing with multiple people about things you completely disagree on.

 

 

Do 10 minutes of stand up on YouTube and post the link in here. Don't feel tempted to do any slap bass transitions between jokes, there's no Seinfeld fans here. 

[Isegrim 9796]

8 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

Do 10 minutes of stand up on YouTube and post the link in here. Don't feel tempted to do any slap bass transitions between jokes, there's no Seinfeld fans here. 

We’ll have The Fish vs Asprilla next…

[The Fish 10858]

18 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

Do 10 minutes of stand up on YouTube and post the link in here. Don't feel tempted to do any slap bass transitions between jokes, there's one Seinfeld fan here. 

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Isegrim 9796]

35 minutes ago, Asprilla said:

I don’t know if you follow the dark horse podcast but they are two former biology professors who are less than complimentary about how “clean” scientific data has become

Weinstein  

[Asprilla 96]

14 minutes ago, Isegrim said:

Weinstein  

What specifically does he say about corruption in scientific research that you disagree with?