PaddockLad 17285 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, ewerk said: If we were inside the EU though and they were shipping vaccines from the EU to the USA to our detriment would you feel the same? This is how it is to be outside the tent rather than inside. We got a head start, not sure if that was anything to do with being in or out of the the EU and I wouldn't take any gammon claiming it was seriously but ffs its the only thing Hancock has got right and the EU can't fuckin stand it. If it was the other way around and we were making up rules to clip the EUs vaccine wings we'd be furious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30642 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 How did we get a head start? Pfizer and AZ promised the EU certain deliveries by certain dates and they aren't going to meet those figures. I think it's fair enough for the EU to say that they won't be able to export those made within the EU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21638 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, PaddockLad said: We got a head start, not sure if that was anything to do with being in or out of the the EU and I wouldn't take any gammon claiming it was seriously but ffs its the only thing Hancock has got right and the EU can't fuckin stand it. If it was the other way around and we were making up rules to clip the EUs vaccine wings we'd be furious. I think we'll have to see the contracts before casting judgement personally. Worth noting though that the EU paid up front for 300 million doses compared with UKs 100 million, costing them a lot more. They've had their prior March allocation reduced from 100 million, to 80 million, to 30 million now. For a whole continent. As you say, if that was the other way round... Someone has fucked up. We were supposed to have 100s of millions of doses ready to roll in Autumn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Yeah but the EU have a lot more Pfizer and Moderna doses ordered. It's not like it's all or nothing with AZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17285 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Renton said: I think we'll have to see the contracts before casting judgement personally. Worth noting though that the EU paid up front for 300 million doses compared with UKs 100 million, costing them a lot more. They've had their prior March allocation reduced from 100 million, to 80 million, to 30 million now. For a whole continent. As you say, if that was the other way round... Someone has fucked up. We were supposed to have 100s of millions of doses ready to roll in Autumn. Not sure if its a fuck up...pretty sure its big pharma exploiting a global pandemic, completely within character. The EU have been left standing on their dicks. There was an MEP on 5live this morning complaining that pharma has been bunged billions in public money to develop the vaccine and now, when there's a supply issue, won't hand over their "intellectual property" MEP sounded completely and utterly naive tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17285 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, NJS said: Yeah but the EU have a lot more Pfizer and Moderna doses ordered. It's not like it's all or nothing with AZ. Apperently forner Eastern bloc EU members are relying virtually completely on AZ due to cost & ease of storage/distribution....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21638 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Not sure if its a fuck up...pretty sure its big pharma exploiting a global pandemic, completely within character. The EU have been left standing on their dicks. There was an MEP on 5live this morning complaining that pharma has been bunged billions in public money to develop the vaccine and now, when there's a supply issue, won't hand over their "intellectual property" MEP sounded completely and utterly naive tbh. Didn't AZ say they would give up the IP only to later retract this and instead offer the vaccine at cost under license? I'm normally in support of Big Pharma but suspicious in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15552 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just noticed my neighbours have replaced their NHS rainbow with this. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Isegrim 9800 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Is it really that surprising not to approve the AstraZeneca vaccine for people over 65 when there isn‘t sufficient data regarding its efficiency yet? Especially when you have other vaccines where there is sufficient data available. That‘s got nothing to do with nationalism imho but seems sensible. I have no problem myself to opt for the AstraZeneca one if it means someone older gets the BionTech or Moderna one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30642 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Fuck off you patronising prick, if it wasn’t for us you’d all be speaking German right now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Novavax announced as 89% effective. None available for a while though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42460 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just had a humbling moment there. Have a bloke decorating my house at the minute - got chatting to him and turns out he's a pilot on furlough. He's taken up work as a decorator to try and pay his mortgage. He’s not that good at cutting in, but he did a great job on the landing. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Fucks sake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1333 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Just had a humbling moment there. Have a bloke decorating my house at the minute - got chatting to him and turns out he's a pilot on furlough. He's taken up work as a decorator to try and pay his mortgage. He’s not that good at cutting in, but he did a great job on the landing. For fucks sake. As much as I think we should've restricted international air travel a good 10 months ago its got fuck all do with folk getting their "downstairs landing" addressed. Just have a wank like the rest of us and leave the pilots to their furlough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21954 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Oh, he does. He does 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33267 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Monkeys Fist said: Just had a humbling moment there. Have a bloke decorating my house at the minute - got chatting to him and turns out he's a pilot on furlough. He's taken up work as a decorator to try and pay his mortgage. He’s not that good at cutting in, but he did a great job on the landing. Absolutely terrible. (I'm still pinching it). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11289 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Just had a humbling moment there. Have a bloke decorating my house at the minute - got chatting to him and turns out he's a pilot on furlough. He's taken up work as a decorator to try and pay his mortgage. He’s not that good at cutting in, but he did a great job on the landing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11393 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Just had a humbling moment there. Have a bloke decorating my house at the minute - got chatting to him and turns out he's a pilot on furlough. He's taken up work as a decorator to try and pay his mortgage. He’s not that good at cutting in, but he did a great job on the landing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35097 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55843506 Little wonder we’ve got so many deaths this time round. This so-called lockdown is an absolute piss-take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42460 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 4 hours ago, Alex said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55843506 Little wonder we’ve got so many deaths this time round. This so-called lockdown is an absolute piss-take. Notice how every shitty employer’s response was, “ The safety of employees is our priority…” which translates in plain English to “ We couldn’t give a fuck”. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4389 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Our offices did reopen last summer after being made safe but they're shut again now - it's not hard. (Yes I know I'm very lucky). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21954 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 i'm starting to get more than a little annoyed with amazon delivery dudes standing right at my front door as i open it, no mask, to hand-deliver the parcels. step the fuck off already and leave it on the deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4269 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 We took a decision as a safety team to shut all our offices during the first lock down and haven’t opened them. There is no need for office staff to be in an office all day unless higher ups don’t trust them, in which case why employ them? Or the higher ups are knobs. Wonder which one is more common. Our construction sites are still open but with heavy guidance in place to protect workers. They are difficult to manage mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42460 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Trying to get builders to do as they’re told is like eating soup with a fork. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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