Monkeys Fist 45838 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 18:16, wykikitoon said: After the second world war, the public voted out a hero in Winston Churchill who lead us to Victory in WW2 and from what I have been told, voted in one of the most left wing governments in history. Would Corbyn have been better placed where Starmer is now? Expand Atlee- Labour PM for the next six years. Hugely important figure in the creation of the Welfare State- it boils my piss that everyone knows of Über Cunts like Thatcher but Atlee is criminally under appreciated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16623 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 18:16, wykikitoon said: Would Corbyn have been better placed where Starmer is now? Expand No, he's a busted flush with the parts of the electorate you need to win over. Whatever happens though, I hope Labour not only position themselves as realistically but firmly of the left, but actually make the "hey, we have policies you like!" argument persuasively and consistently, which is one thing they've not been terribly good at lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37319 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 18:16, wykikitoon said: After the second world war, the public voted out a hero in Winston Churchill who lead us to Victory in WW2 and from what I have been told, voted in one of the most left wing governments in history. Would Corbyn have been better placed where Starmer is now? Expand I think the ‘country’ voted for Churchill whilst the returning servicemen voted Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10632 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 18:16, wykikitoon said: Would Corbyn have been better placed where Starmer is now? Expand Would to die from bubonic plague be better than from covid-19? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19355 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 17:58, Alex said: And enough people will believe it Expand Here’s some early runners & riders...honestly, we’re fucked. This thread is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever fuckin read. A whole bunch of fuckin cretins refusing to look facts square in the face and find reasons to excuse the cunts who ignored Cygnus, ignored Asia for 2/3 months etc etc...at election time in nearly 5 years time there will be millions like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37319 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 20:00, PaddockLad said: Here’s some early runners & riders...honestly, we’re fucked. This thread is one of the most depressing things I’ve ever fuckin read. A whole bunch of fuckin cretins refusing to look facts square in the face and find reasons to excuse the cunts who ignored Cygnus, ignored Asia for 2/3 months etc etc...at election time in nearly 5 years time there will be millions like this Expand I’m not even reading it, not tonight anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4645 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 18:52, Alex said: I think the ‘country’ voted for Churchill whilst the returning servicemen voted Labour Expand I asked my parents why Churchill lost - they reckoned the people remembered the lead up to the war and how the tories were - along with the promise of the NHS. I asked why Labour lost in 51 - they reckoned the promise of creating a country fit for heroes hadn't quite worked out - though of course in that election they got more votes than the tories but were undone by the usual votes in the wrong place problem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23966 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 John Burn Murdoch explains why they use the log scale. It isn’t to politicise the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23350 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 18:52, Alex said: I think the ‘country’ voted for Churchill whilst the returning servicemen voted Labour Expand That makes total sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 23350 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 20:43, Dr Gloom said: John Burn Murdoch explains why they use the log scale. It isn’t to politicise the issue. Expand He's bloody good, been following him a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 337 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 11/04/2020 at 16:15, Gemmill said: And she followed that up, when asked if she would apologise to the families of NHS staff that have died, and who say that the government is to blame, with "I'm sorry they feel that way." She's a psycho. Expand I’m on nightshift number 4 tonight. We’ve spent every night helping out in Covid ITU as there’s not enough staff overnight given they’re proning the ventilated patients and they need fully turning onto their fronts every few hours. I woke up at teatime today and had 3 messages on my phone which all basically said “Please don’t listen to today’s government briefing” Now I know why. Sanctimonious bitch. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kid Dynamite 7827 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 UK numbers seem to be hovering around the 8-900 mark. Hopefully plateauing here too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5325 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 On 12/04/2020 at 06:40, Kid Dynamite said: UK numbers seem to be hovering around the 8-900 mark. Hopefully plateauing here too Expand Would those figures not be victim of the weekend under-reporting thing as happened last week though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7827 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 No. Some of the daily stats are over a week late atm. So as much as they aren’t accurate numbers day to day, they probably do average out as a means of following case trends 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33655 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Alok Sharma on Marr illustrating perfectly why they have medical experts at the daily briefings ie to bounce all the difficult questions on to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51270 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 On 12/04/2020 at 08:45, ewerk said: Alok Sharma on Marr illustrating perfectly why they have medical experts at the daily briefings ie to bounce all the difficult questions on to them. Expand He's fucking hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10574 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 On 12/04/2020 at 08:45, ewerk said: Alok Sharma on Marr illustrating perfectly why they have medical experts at the daily briefings ie to bounce all the difficult questions on to them. Expand alok sharma illustrating perfectly that he's an utter cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wykikitoon 23350 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 The way the daily briefing is set up, its a total charade. Nobody there to ask the difficult questions really and that should be coming from the opposition. The journos just get ignored. Nobody is keeping this government on their toes at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10574 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 On 12/04/2020 at 08:53, wykikitoon said: The way the daily briefing is set up, its a total charade. Nobody there to ask the difficult questions really and that should be coming from the opposition. The journos just get ignored. Nobody is keeping this government on their toes at all. Expand aye, spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19355 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Parliament needs to be recalled NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19355 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 As for the media, they’re not worth a fuckin wank. We all know that obvs but still.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10574 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) On 11/04/2020 at 17:06, PaddockLad said: Expand I always thought probably one of the most shocking distortions of the truth during the thatcher era as well as the probably the most disturbing acts of police brutality was to the peace convoy near stonehenge in 85. the hippies were portrayed as being outlaws armed with firebombs. they were fucking families living in buses! largely lost in time now amongst hillsborough and orgreave but a national scandal nonetheless, I think it was the fledgling channel 4 news footage which was mysteriously 'lost' for years..... Edited April 12, 2020 by thebrokendoll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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