LongTimeAdmirer 1256 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, toonotl said: And on the brightest note of all, LTA will now have to find redemption in learning to love our moustache donning left-wing maestro, one, Anthony Gordon -- or Flash, as I'm sure his friends and family call him. Same number of goals in half a season as ASM's full season tally, after all, so the replacement already looks like a wonderful success story. The HC is going on loan to a Turkish team at the end of the 23/24 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3329 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 You are, without a doubt, one of the most gentle people that I have ever met in the world of football. You have been a man of your word, a caring man and a fair man who never hesitated to protect us. I will never forget how you treated me, for that I will be forever grateful. It has been an honour and a privilege to have you as a coach, thank you Steve 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) Did I miss? The rare triple post. Tell me you're rattled without telling me you're rattled. Edited June 6, 2023 by toonotl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11262 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, toonotl said: Did I miss? The rare triple post. Tell me you're rattled without telling me you're rattled. Basically 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1256 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 44 minutes ago, toonotl said: Did I miss? The rare triple post. Tell me you're rattled without telling me you're rattled. Block people on the internet? You little sissy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42392 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Absolute NONSENSE being spouted here. ASM is going NOWHERE. He's just an absolute GENT and sharing love with the fans. Going NOWHERE. Shut the fuck up carnts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I wouldn't say anyone seemed particularly happy about the idea of ASM going, Dougles very good point about rimming Brucey when he left aside. But it would be good for the meltdown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30571 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 From a FFP POV it would make sense. His book value is around £6m so we could bank a £24m profit if he goes for £30m. Though that figure does seem a bit low to me but isn't helped by his injury record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21913 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I would give him another season personally. He’s coming into his prime years and was v unlucky last season with injuries but showed signs he was adapting to Howe’s system. His chances created stats per 90 are along the best in Europe. We’re going to need a much bigger squad for champions league and he tends to raise his game for the bigger opposition. However, if we do need the balance the books ahead of a summer splurge he is one of the few Ashley legacy players we could get £30-40m for. I’d probably let him go next summer if he spends another season in the treatment room. Whatever you think about him as a player, his injury record is a concern. There’s also the fact he isn’t really an Eddie Howe player. He has to curb the things that make him brilliant to fit into Howe’s system. In fact, there were times last season when I wanted him to be more like the old maxi and beat his man instead of playing the percentages. He might just be better suited to playing for a different team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6582 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I'm not fussed either way. He sticks out as not being an Eddie Howe player so if we can get decent money then im okay with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30571 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I would give him another season personally. He’s coming into his prime years and was v unlucky last season with injuries He wasn't unlucky last season, he generally misses 10+ matches through injury most seasons. And another problem is that when he comes back from injury it takes him a while to get up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21913 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: He wasn't unlucky last season, he generally misses 10+ matches through injury most seasons. And another problem is that when he comes back from injury it takes him a while to get up to speed. I haven’t got his appearance stats to hand but it felt like he missed many more games than in previous seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13862 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 That IG post is a classic drunken ramble 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35070 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, ewerk said: He wasn't unlucky last season, he generally misses 10+ matches through injury most seasons. And another problem is that when he comes back from injury it takes him a while to get up to speed. Yeah. Not saying it’s his fault but him being unavailable for a large chunk of the season is standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30571 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I haven’t got his appearance stats to hand but it felt like he missed many more games than in previous seasons 19/20 - 11 games injured 20/21 - 13 games injured 21/22 - 3 games injured 22/23 - 12 games injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I haven’t got his appearance stats to hand but it felt like he missed many more games than in previous seasons Youre right, but it's because he wasnt an autotmatic pick when fit this season, so he missed more games than he would have before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21913 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 He appeared in 25 games last season. 10 fewer than the previous one 12 games “injured” isn’t that bad but then he isn’t being picked when he returns straight away because he still isn’t fit enough (or good enough) to play the way Howe wants them to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44826 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Either injured or not good enough. Sounds like someone we should sell. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21913 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 when he has played this season, he has been effective. this is supported up by his stats , which are good, despite the lack of game time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21913 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Either injured or not good enough. Sounds like someone we should sell. i think he has been good enough, when selected. the problem is his lack of fitness, and howe not trusting him to play his way when he's been returning from injury. i can see arguments for keeping and for letting him go. i think he'd be a good wild card squad option for a champions league campaign. he will relish playing in those games, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's the one we cash in on. the other one could be miggy. i'd also like him to stay, but are we ever going to get a better price for him at 29 after the season he just had? he was instrumental in leading the press last season but if someone came in with 20-30m for him, it would be hard to turn down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44826 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The way I look at it, if we've got saleable assets that we aren't sure about, we have to just be ruthless and they have to go. We'll never progress to the next level if we have a policy of giving people another season. It's obviously not as black and white as that, some players will require longer bedding in time, but I think Howe now knows bother the upper and lower limits of ASM's abilities. Miggy is a different story, cos whilst he's horribly one footed and doesn't score much outside of insane purple patches, he can put in game changing / points-protecting shifts because of his insane energy and ability to disrupt the opposition. Even when he's not scoring or having a particularly good day. With ASM, if he isn't having a good day, you're borderline a man down and that will cost us points. I'll be sad to see him go and I hope he's a huge success as long as he moves outside the PL. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30571 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: He appeared in 25 games last season. 10 fewer than the previous one 12 games “injured” isn’t that bad but then he isn’t being picked when he returns straight away because he still isn’t fit enough (or good enough) to play the way Howe wants them to play. Missing 32% of the season isn't that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35070 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) When Howe gave him a chance he did give him a run of games, until he got injured again. That’s overwhelmingly his main issue. I would like to see him succeed because he offers something different. But the temptation to sell because of the FFP implications would see him leave for anything in the region if £25m I reckon. It’s not like in the past where we might’ve sold and not reinvested. Edited June 6, 2023 by Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44826 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Gonna be a tough window for someone. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21913 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: Missing 32% of the season isn't that bad? missing 12 games due to injury isn’t that bad if you play the rest of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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