ThatGinolaVolley 123 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 If ASM leaves (and I think he will if a bid of £30m+ comes in), it will feel a bit like the Shelvey transfer in Jan. He’ll leave on good terms in a deal which suits all parties. ASM is never going to be first choice in the intense press & counter system that’s got us into the champions league, and we’re blessed with plenty of others who can play that position. The extra FPP headroom can then be used to add depth where we really need it (midfield/fullbacks/right wing). Meanwhile, ASM gets to terrorise defenses on the continent somewhere where the fitness requirements won’t be quite as intense, and he’ll probably have a longer career with fewer injuries as a result. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Maybe Al Ittihad will buy him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1256 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Howay said: Maybe Al Ittihad will buy him They’d never offer your man HC a fat contract, when Eddie finally gives up on him, it’s off to the MLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: They’d never offer your man HC a fat contract, when Eddie finally gives up on him, it’s off to the MLS Good luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1256 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, RobinRobin said: Good luck with that The he’ll do I care if HC works in MLS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44851 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: The he’ll do I care if HC works in MLS? The heel you do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 LTA has taken a right fuckin shoeing in this thread mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3892 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 51 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: LTA has taken a right fuckin shoeing in this thread mind They should support grassroots tennis in lower income areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9399 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 19 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: oh please... Does he cometh in cubes or crushed ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Does he cometh in cubes or crushed ?? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 16 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: i thought you were our resident statto I like good stats, not wonky stats. Needs to be a lower tolerance in terms of playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1256 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, PaddockLad said: LTA has taken a right fuckin shoeing in this thread mind Absolutely no chance of St Maxi getting benched or moved on for this guy. Creates nothing, scores nothing, provides absolutely nothing in attack which is his job. As a great man once said: "Señor, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for the headless chook." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3892 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 minute ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Absolutely no chance of St Maxi getting benched or moved on for this guy. Creates nothing, scores nothing, provides absolutely nothing in attack which is his job. As a great man once said: "Señor, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for the headless chook." Hasn't he scored exactly the same amount as ASM for us this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Absolutely no chance of St Maxi getting benched or moved on for this guy. Creates nothing, scores nothing, provides absolutely nothing in attack which is his job. As a great man once said: "Señor, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for the headless chook." Headless chook? Well done for not rushing to judgement on a young player who was settling in to a new team and city this season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Kitman said: Headless chook? Well done for not rushing to judgement on a young player who was settling in to a new team and city this season Aye, he also played for the worst attacking side in the league for half the season which heavily impacts his statistics, as seen by his shooting ones which show his accuracy despite getting the opportunity to shoot as much when compared to his peers, as well as his defensive stats. Compared to the same stats for ASM: We can play around with stats all day to shape narrative how we want tbh, the thing that’s clear is ASM doesn’t mesh with Howe’s style of play - he suits a style where he gets all the ball and can do his mazy runs to the corner flag to his hearts content. Gordon is a youth prospect tbh. Edited June 7, 2023 by Howay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Toonpack said: Does he cometh in cubes or crushed ?? i shoot ice bullets, bitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9399 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i shoot ice bullets, bitch So you're frigid then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I think Gordon was signed as much to be a utility player as anything else. His physique, athleticism and ability to cover the front 3 positions plus midfield is a great thing for a side in Europe and still lacking in depth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1256 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Howay said: We can play around with stats all day to shape narrative how we want tbh, the thing that’s clear is ASM doesn’t mesh with Howe’s style of play - he suits a style where he gets all the ball and can do his mazy runs to the corner flag to his hearts content. Gordon is a youth prospect tbh. A prospect has to be decent, hes horrendous. Who gives a damn about a forward that makes a few tackles but cant score or assist. Lmao, he cant even dribble Edited June 7, 2023 by LongTimeAdmirer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 minute ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: A prospect has to be decent, hes horrendous. Who gives a damn about a forward that makes a few tackles but cant score or assist. Lmao He outscored ASM this season, the stats show an accurate shooter of the ball and he’s just turned 23. It’s not just a few tackles, it’s showing how good he could be in our pressing system - the amount of times he challenges/tackles in the final third. If you want to write the bloke off it’s weird but up to you really. Eddie Howe and Dan Ashworth seem to rate him, enough to spend whatever we could under FFP to get him, that’s enough for me at the moment despite him not starring so far at the club - he admitted he needed to get up to speed with the squad and has stated he’s working through the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: A prospect has to be decent, hes horrendous. Who gives a damn about a forward that makes a few tackles but cant score or assist. Lmao As Howay showed, he's getting in the right areas and the quality of his finishing is good. More time in a better team than Everton will allow him to improve those already decent metrics. One thing Gordon is not, is horrendous. Provides a good goal threat and way way more defensive contributions than ASM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: i shoot blanks, bitch FYP 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1492 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Aye, ASM has known the levels required of Eddie and had a summer to get up to speed. The number of times ASM sat down on the ground after being tackled I am sure drove Eddie mad, compared to the likes of Miggy. AG came from Fat Franks Shite-Show in Jan so has a summer to prove himself and I think he will come good 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I have no idea what Gordon is supposed to do. He runs around a lot and likes to get stuck in but I've seen very little positive play from him while with us or Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 asm has much more natural talent than gordon but gordon is a natural eddie howe player, which is something ASM will never be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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